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  • @mddawg said:

    Quincy Carrier gave his opinion on the final sequence of playcalling and I tend to agree with him. In summary with 30 secs left and a back up QB more time conserved with throws rather than stuffed runs. Leave the run for last so if it's stuffed it's the end of the game anyway.

    Kwence sucks... LOL c'mon man.. All he does is repeat himself over and over like a dolt..

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    @nickers said:

    Kwence sucks... LOL c'mon man.. All he does is repeat himself over and over like a dolt..

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

  • @nickers said:

    Kwence sucks... LOL c'mon man.. All he does is repeat himself over and over like a dolt..

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @mddawg said:

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

  • @mddawg said:

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

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    @hoorta said:

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

    In terms of clock management Kevin made the right call plus when the play is well executed you create your own luck. Walker does suck but wasn't here for training camp and yet to have a full week's practice under his belt.

  • @mddawg said:

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

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    @hoorta said:

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

    This is where Kevin was WRONG…other people may disagree with me but PJ Walker throwing jump balls into a crowded end zone or 33 seconds you get two chances with Hunt (arguably one of the best short yard backs in the game).   You could have added to your life expectancy Kevin.
     

    The Njoku shovel play was a risk he’s a big guy but he’s catching the ball outside of the end zone and needs to weave his way into a crowded line of scrimmage and pick the right hole…not something he does on the regular. And if he doesn’t make the end zone you are in that same clock predicament he mentioned. 

    Simplify the game.

    It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone.

    It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

    This is where Kevin was WRONG…other people may disagree with me but PJ Walker throwing jump balls into a crowded end zone or 33 seconds you get two chances with Hunt (arguably one of the best short yard backs in the game).   You could have added to your life expectancy Kevin.
     

    The Njoku shovel play was a risk he’s a big guy but he’s catching the ball outside of the end zone and needs to weave his way into a crowded line of scrimmage and pick the right hole…not something he does on the regular. And if he doesn’t make the end zone you are in that same clock predicament he mentioned. 

    Simplify the game.

    It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone.

    It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. 

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    Simplify the game.

    It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone.

    It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. 

    I don't call him moneyman for nothing. Hunt smells endzones inside the 10.

  • @mddawg said:

    He was right this time, read the article on those last 33 secs from Kevin and the linemen.

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2023/10/hes-playing-chess-inside-the-browns-decision-making-on-final-drive-in-win-over-colts.html

    Though he DID get lucky that Hunt scored on 4th down. If he hadn't made it, Kev would never have heard the end of it if he didn't try one more smash Kareem.  

    That said, man does Walker ever SUCK!!! No accuracy, and little field vision.  For those who still have the tape, I'd suggest you slo-mo on the final drive where PJ threw the ball out of the end zone and lucked out on a horrible ref call..  He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63

    @hoorta said:

     He had Njoku WIDE OPEN on the three yard line for a walk in TD on that play.   

    TE pivot vs... what looks like some form of cover 2? Maybe Quarters?  Either way, PJ should have immediately just calmly flipped this ball to David when he saw the CB high and outside.  It's a walk in TD.  Doesn't get much easier than that.  Speaking of walk in TD's....

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    @sdbacker80 said:

     he’s catching the ball outside of the end zone and needs to weave his way into a crowded line of scrimmage and pick the right hole…

    When people say things like this, and believe me, there's A LOT of them.  It genuinely makes me wonder what they're seeing that's so different from reality?  I get the game is fast, but I saw this real time and just put my head down.

    There was no need to "weave".    It wasn't the least crowded.  Catch, turn, two steps... TD.     PJ just fired the ball a million miles an hour into David's right shoulder as he was turning.  

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    Two great calls by Stef for gimmie scores.       Bottom line, QB play has to be better.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    just need to execute

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Simplify the game.

    It’s not Njoku up the gut or PJ making a decision in a crowded end zone.

    It is Kareem Hunt no timeouts but two chances from the 1. 

    I don't call him moneyman for nothing. Hunt smells endzones inside the 10.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    I don't call him moneyman for nothing. Hunt smells endzones inside the 10.

    Yes he is and it’s certainly better than a shovel pass with a practice squad QB…and I wonder why that play wasn’t easy- go figure a play call with a QB that can’t see the field well and deliver accurate passes (and almost gave up the game last week)  

     Hunt scores on 1st down and avoids all the nonsense on 2nd and 3rd down 

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    There’s QBs on the street that wouldn’t make these egregious mistakes, I’d be cutting Walker and bringing in someone else even if Watson is back this weekend. Keep DTR as the 3

  • @bowser76 said:

    ANDREW BERRY GETS THE GAME BALL FOR THIS WIN:

    DUSTIN HOPKINS, P.J. WALKER AND KAREEM HUNT

    3 PLAYERS WHO WERE NOT ON OUR TRAINING CAMP ROSTER OR THE PRESEASON, BUT THEY WON US THE GAME.

    ? ? ? ? ?

    @mjp28 said:

    Well where did you come from ....  but you are CORRECT .... Virgin Islands, nice.   

    And welcome to TBB, check out our welcome new members thread.   mjp.

    And here I was about to ask who had been sacrificing virgins the last couple of weeks to insure that Browns win games. But now I have the answer: Bowser76.?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    @texasag1969 said:

    .....  Ah-ha !   Ask and you will get your answer .... or maybe just   "an answer"  to  someone's question,  or whatever ...... but at least it was both  quick  and   as always  FREE  here on TBB.    😉

    And here I was about to ask who had been sacrificing virgins the last couple of weeks to insure that Browns win games. But now I have the answer: Bowser76.?

    ......  OK,   the answer to your question.   We didn't forget now,  the answer.   The virgin(s)  thing  to insure that the BROWNS win games,  or was it a dead chicken .....  and  well  was that   before  during   or  right after the  game,  delivered to Coach  Kevin  in a   KFC   bucket.   ....  Ah,  on the virgins thing  before  or  during  or especially  after.  at ....   any time  around  a  BROWNS  GAME   ah,  no can do.    SORRY.    😁

    ( please use the expand command symboi,  thank you )

    I hope that answered your question.     🙂

  • @texasag1969 said:

    .....  Ah-ha !   Ask and you will get your answer .... or maybe just   "an answer"  to  someone's question,  or whatever ...... but at least it was both  quick  and   as always  FREE  here on TBB.    😉

    And here I was about to ask who had been sacrificing virgins the last couple of weeks to insure that Browns win games. But now I have the answer: Bowser76.?

    ......  OK,   the answer to your question.   We didn't forget now,  the answer.   The virgin(s)  thing  to insure that the BROWNS win games,  or was it a dead chicken .....  and  well  was that   before  during   or  right after the  game,  delivered to Coach  Kevin  in a   KFC   bucket.   ....  Ah,  on the virgins thing  before  or  during  or especially  after.  at ....   any time  around  a  BROWNS  GAME   ah,  no can do.    SORRY.    😁

    ( please use the expand command symboi,  thank you )

    I hope that answered your question.     🙂

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    ( please use the expand command symboi,  thank you )

    I hope that answered your question.     🙂

    here is your answer 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    .....  Ah-ha !   Ask and you will get your answer .... or maybe just   "an answer"  to  someone's question,  or whatever ...... but at least it was both  quick  and   as always  FREE  here on TBB.    😉

    And here I was about to ask who had been sacrificing virgins the last couple of weeks to insure that Browns win games. But now I have the answer: Bowser76.?

    ......  OK,   the answer to your question.   We didn't forget now,  the answer.   The virgin(s)  thing  to insure that the BROWNS win games,  or was it a dead chicken .....  and  well  was that   before  during   or  right after the  game,  delivered to Coach  Kevin  in a   KFC   bucket.   ....  Ah,  on the virgins thing  before  or  during  or especially  after.  at ....   any time  around  a  BROWNS  GAME   ah,  no can do.    SORRY.    😁

    ( please use the expand command symboi,  thank you )

    I hope that answered your question.     🙂

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @mjp28 said:

    ( please use the expand command symboi,  thank you )

    I hope that answered your question.     🙂

    Yeah, obviously no virgins in the Virgin Islands.??

  • sydS syd

    just need to execute

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    just need to execute (him)

    Yes, he does need to be executed. Even with a full week of practice, I don't expect PJ to miraculously turn into an even mediocre QB.   FWIW, his current qbr is sub 50...  🙁