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    @mddawg said:

    Cooper is probably our best offensive weapon overall 

    we need to pay him, so he never leaves.     ....  oh yes !   So he never, ever leaves.   😍

    @syd said:

    we need to pay him, so he never leaves

    I like Coop, quite a bit, but he’s kinda like a super possession receiver. I don’t think he’s overly fast or shifty or powerful, so l don’t see us backing the Brinks truck up to him anytime soon. 

    IMO the Brinks truck worthy wideout is the guy with great hands and great YAC. Like Josh Gordon before his life got ridiculously weird.   ...... in a plain grey Brink's truck ......   and small bills, please.   Coop prefers his pay that way.   $10's  and $20's  please.   😍

  • @syd said:

    we need to pay him, so he never leaves

    I like Coop, quite a bit, but he’s kinda like a super possession receiver. I don’t think he’s overly fast or shifty or powerful, so l don’t see us backing the Brinks truck up to him anytime soon. 

    IMO the Brinks truck worthy wideout is the guy with great hands and great YAC. Like Josh Gordon before his life got ridiculously weird.   ...... in a plain grey Brink's truck ......   and small bills, please.   Coop prefers his pay that way.   $10's  and $20's  please.   😍

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I like Coop, quite a bit, but he’s kinda like a super possession receiver. I don’t think he’s overly fast or shifty or powerful, so l don’t see us backing the Brinks truck up to him anytime soon. 

    IMO the Brinks truck worthy wideout is the guy with great hands and great YAC. Like Josh Gordon before his life got ridiculously weird. 

    so who in the fuck are you gonna bring in ?

  • ......  and  please  NO UNAVAILABLE videos with these.   Thank you.   😁

  • sydS syd

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I like Coop, quite a bit, but he’s kinda like a super possession receiver. I don’t think he’s overly fast or shifty or powerful, so l don’t see us backing the Brinks truck up to him anytime soon. 

    IMO the Brinks truck worthy wideout is the guy with great hands and great YAC. Like Josh Gordon before his life got ridiculously weird. 

    so who in the fuck are you gonna bring in ?

    @syd said:

    so who in the fuck are you gonna bring in ?

    We don’t need to bring anyone in right now, he’s paid rather well through 2024 with us. I’d like to see us draft or spit polish a diamond-in-the-rough type guy between now and then to challenge him for catches. 

  • ......  and  please  NO UNAVAILABLE videos with these.   Thank you.   😁

    @mjp28 said:

    ......  and  please  NO UNAVAILABLE videos with thses.   Thank you.   😁

    ummmm it sez WATCH ON YOUTUBE   and there you go

  • @syd said:

    so who in the fuck are you gonna bring in ?

    We don’t need to bring anyone in right now, he’s paid rather well through 2024 with us. I’d like to see us draft or spit polish a diamond-in-the-rough type guy between now and then to challenge him for catches. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    We don’t need to bring anyone in right now, he’s paid rather well through 2024 with us. I’d like to see us draft or spit polish a diamond-in-the-rough type guy between now and then to challenge him for catches. 

    if we get lucky in the draft ?  Please  Tillman ?  peoples jones  ?

  • Don't blame it all on him. As the GM and in the management kind of screwed the coach over! Really glad after the loss of Nick Chubb he is finding ways to win. In particular possibly having Myles Garrett as the DPMOTY nod.

  • Re: the OP l got something here. A corndog analogy.

    The players on a football team are like a hot dog. Perfectly functional, come from many parts and put together in a system like manner, and for the most part form a unit that performs its function with a degree of consistency. 

    And the crispy deliciously deep fried batter coating? That’s the head coach. That’s the thing that holds the team together, makes them hot and crisp, or can make them mushy and disappointing.

    I think Kevin Stefanski is fine deep battered and fried.

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  • He's the best coach the Browns have had since BB. 

  • He's the best coach the Browns have had since BB. 

    @bob806 said:

    He's the best coach the Browns have had since BB. 

    And unfortunately the brain trust thought they got a Purdy in the 5th round. They did not. So Kevin is now severely handicapped by them IMO. It isn't Kevin that made this more than difficult. To their credit they did do the right thing for the D. To their discredit they screwed the pooch at QB backup help.

  • @bob806 said:

    He's the best coach the Browns have had since BB. 

    And unfortunately the brain trust thought they got a Purdy in the 5th round. They did not. So Kevin is now severely handicapped by them IMO. It isn't Kevin that made this more than difficult. To their credit they did do the right thing for the D. To their discredit they screwed the pooch at QB backup help.

    @texasag1969 said:

    And unfortunately the brain trust thought they got a Purdy in the 5th round. They did not. So Kevin is now severely handicapped by them IMO. It isn't Kevin that made this more than difficult. To their credit they did do the right thing for the D. To their discredit they screwed the pooch at QB backup help.

    Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And unfortunately the brain trust thought they got a Purdy in the 5th round. They did not. So Kevin is now severely handicapped by them IMO. It isn't Kevin that made this more than difficult. To their credit they did do the right thing for the D. To their discredit they screwed the pooch at QB backup help.

    Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see 

    @bob806 said:

    Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

  • @bob806 said:

    Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

    @texasag1969 said:

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

    I'm not disagreeing they botched the QB room. Just saying it's way to early to judge DTR

  • @bob806 said:

    Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

    @texasag1969 said:

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

    Man, you're not kidding. Basically we played with fire and hot burnt. They gambled that Watson wouldn't go down obviously that's not the case. I mean, if you're Kevin, how infuriated are you? You trade a ton of assets for a guy known for taking hits and holding the ball and then take away my experienced backup. Thanks Mr. Berry! 

    How does Kevin generate points with the worst statistical QB and no Chubb? Oh, and Seattle has a terrific run defense. Time to earn that mula, Kevin! ?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.

    Man, you're not kidding. Basically we played with fire and hot burnt. They gambled that Watson wouldn't go down obviously that's not the case. I mean, if you're Kevin, how infuriated are you? You trade a ton of assets for a guy known for taking hits and holding the ball and then take away my experienced backup. Thanks Mr. Berry! 

    How does Kevin generate points with the worst statistical QB and no Chubb? Oh, and Seattle has a terrific run defense. Time to earn that mula, Kevin! ?

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Man, you're not kidding. Basically we played with fire and hot burnt. They gambled that Watson wouldn't go down obviously that's not the case. I mean, if you're Kevin, how infuriated are you? You trade a ton of assets for a guy known for taking hits and holding the ball and then take away my experienced backup. Thanks Mr. Berry! 

    How does Kevin generate points with the worst statistical QB and no Chubb? Oh, and Seattle has a terrific run defense. Time to earn that mula, Kevin! ?

    Generated 23 points with an XFL back up and 154 yards of rushing on the road (with 3 backup RBs) against a great defense, is conjuring magic to be honest. People out with the pitchforks for questionable playcalling at times. Didn't Seattle lose a SB in a similar situation with Pete Caroll who had decades of experience? Stefanski is in his 4th year, impatient Browns fans need to realize what they have instead of clamoring for a reset with a new coach.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Man, you're not kidding. Basically we played with fire and hot burnt. They gambled that Watson wouldn't go down obviously that's not the case. I mean, if you're Kevin, how infuriated are you? You trade a ton of assets for a guy known for taking hits and holding the ball and then take away my experienced backup. Thanks Mr. Berry! 

    How does Kevin generate points with the worst statistical QB and no Chubb? Oh, and Seattle has a terrific run defense. Time to earn that mula, Kevin! ?

    Generated 23 points with an XFL back up and 154 yards of rushing on the road (with 3 backup RBs) against a great defense, is conjuring magic to be honest. People out with the pitchforks for questionable playcalling at times. Didn't Seattle lose a SB in a similar situation with Pete Caroll who had decades of experience? Stefanski is in his 4th year, impatient Browns fans need to realize what they have instead of clamoring for a reset with a new coach.

    @mddawg said:

    Generated 23 points with an XFL back up and 154 yards of rushing on the road (with 3 backup RBs) against a great defense, is conjuring magic to be honest. People out with the pitchforks for questionable playcalling at times. Didn't Seattle lose a SB in a similar situation with Pete Caroll who had decades of experience? Stefanski is in his 4th year, impatient Browns fans need to realize what they have instead of clamoring for a reset with a new coach.

    Sorrry but , Kevvy ain't getting it done... He's mid tier coach

  • @mddawg said:

    Generated 23 points with an XFL back up and 154 yards of rushing on the road (with 3 backup RBs) against a great defense, is conjuring magic to be honest. People out with the pitchforks for questionable playcalling at times. Didn't Seattle lose a SB in a similar situation with Pete Caroll who had decades of experience? Stefanski is in his 4th year, impatient Browns fans need to realize what they have instead of clamoring for a reset with a new coach.

    Sorrry but , Kevvy ain't getting it done... He's mid tier coach

    @nickers said:

    Sorrry but , Kevvy ain't getting it done... He's mid tier coach

    Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, we'll see.

  • Despite what rabid Browns fans say, this might be Kevin Stefanski’s finest season

    There was a time a few years ago when a certain Cleveland coach couldn’t do much of anything right to appease a rabid fan base. The Cavaliers staggered through a 15-20 stretch from December to March during what became LeBron James’ final season here as restless fans insisted coach Tyronn Lue was the problem and needed to be ousted immediately if not sooner. 

    In my previous life as an NBA beat writer, I spent thousands of words in columns and on radio and television appearances insisting Lue not only wasn’t the problem, he was the one holding it all together. 

    The Cavs eventually tucked in their shirts and put their shoes on the correct feet long enough to make a fourth consecutive run to the NBA Finals. 

    Five years later, here we are again. Different sport, same rabid fan base. 

    I’m not predicting a Super Bowl run for the Browns, but given all that has gone wrong this year, this might be coach Kevin Stefanski’s finest season as head coach. He lost his starting right tackle in the opener, franchise pillar Nick Chubb in Week 2 and franchise quarterback Deshaun Watson in Week 3.

    And the Browns are 4-3. 

    Watson has looked broken and ineffective for much of his time in Cleveland. After his disastrous first quarter at Indianapolis, it’s anyone’s guess at this point when he’ll return to the field, or which version we’ll see when he’s healthy. 

    Yet Stefanski and one of the top defenses in the NFL have dragged the Browns to a 4-3 record and the thick of the AFC playoff race despite horrific quarterback play for most of the season. 

    The Browns are 31st in offensive total pass EPA. That means they’re one of three teams, along with the New York Jets and Chicago Bears, that essentially lose points every time the quarterback drops back to pass. 

    They’re 4-3.

    Browns quarterbacks are dead last in the NFL in completion percentage and 29th in yards per attempt. They lead the league in turnovers, including seven in the fourth quarter. 

    They’re 4-3. 

    Sunday was perhaps Stefanski’s finest football hour for the first 58 minutes. After coaxing the best out of Baker Mayfield and Brissett in previous seasons, he had a vile of snake oil and a few magic beans left for P.J. Walker. Following victories over the 49ers and Colts, a practice squad quarterback was two minutes away from his third consecutive win in a Browns jersey. It was a magical combination of illusion and sleight of hand Sunday in Seattle. He nearly had the lady sawed in half when he hit an artery. Or as my colleague Zac Jackson said on our postgame podcast, Stefanski was painting his Mona Lisa until a kid spilled his pudding on it. 

    The pudding, in this case, was Seahawks safety Jamal Adams’ helmet on third-and-3. 

    Stefanski is 30-27 in his fourth season here. He has used eight quarterbacks to get through 57 games, a telling if not a bit misleading figure since Nick Mullens and Dorian Thompson-Robinson each started only once. 

    Nevertheless, twice now Stefanski thought he had a franchise quarterback and twice he has been fooled. He arrived here expecting a long partnership with Mayfield, a quarterback drafted first overall. When that unraveled, the franchise spent $230 million and three first-round picks to acquire Watson. There is still time for Watson to fix this, but to this point, the trade has been a disaster. Stefanski has never enjoyed much stability at the most important position.

    Mayfield was terrific over the second half of the 2020 season. Everything else has been severed brake lines and broken seat belts.  

    Yet he continues to have this team ready to play and he consistently puts the Browns in position to win late nearly every week. The players may not love every play call either, but they fight hard and play for him. 

    Did you hate watching Walker’s pass bounce off Adams’ helmet and into the arms of Seattle’s Julian Love on third-and-3? Here are the numbers you’ll love. 

    Since Stefanski arrived in Cleveland in 2020, NFL teams convert 58 percent of the time when they run on third-and-3. They convert 49 percent of the time when they throw. (The Browns, incidentally, convert 57 percent of the time when they throw on third-and-3 even after that interception.)

    Stefanski has made plenty of calls that have made me cringe over the years — bringing Jacoby Brissett off the bench to throw deep on fourth-and-1 at Cincinnati last year immediately comes to mind. Every coach has them.

    He’s an aggressive play caller, for better or worse. He calls the game to win the game, not avoid losing it. The Browns threw on third-and-3 just a few plays before the pass that was intercepted, but nobody said a word because the Seahawks were flagged and the Browns were awarded a first down. 

    Stefanski put the game in the defense’s hands against the 49ers and quarterback Brock Purdy sprinted the offense into field goal range. The Browns escaped only after the kick sailed wide. 

    Needing a stop Sunday following the turnover, the defense instead allowed Seattle to average nearly 9 yards a play to score the game-winning touchdown with little resistance. 

    I was ambivalent over the third-and-3 call. I see both sides. What I don’t understand is the incessant insistence the coach be fired after every loss. 

    Here are the records of the coaches who were fired last year: 11-27 (Carolina’s Matt Rhule), 4-11 (Denver’s Nathaniel Hackett), 28-37-1 (Arizona’s Kliff Kingsbury), 3-13-1 (Houston’s Love Smith), 40-33-1 (Indianapolis’ Frank Reich). 

    Stefanski is 30-27. The only coach fired with a winning record last year was Reich. If you want to join the company of resident NFL lunatic Jim Irsay, who fired Reich and replaced him with a television analyst whose only head-coaching experience was in high school, that’s a party I’m not attending. 

    Two lousy minutes turned Stefanski’s masterpiece into mud. Throw away the canvas. Keep the painter and his brushes. 

  • Despite what rabid Browns fans say, this might be Kevin Stefanski’s finest season

    There was a time a few years ago when a certain Cleveland coach couldn’t do much of anything right to appease a rabid fan base. The Cavaliers staggered through a 15-20 stretch from December to March during what became LeBron James’ final season here as restless fans insisted coach Tyronn Lue was the problem and needed to be ousted immediately if not sooner. 

    In my previous life as an NBA beat writer, I spent thousands of words in columns and on radio and television appearances insisting Lue not only wasn’t the problem, he was the one holding it all together. 

    The Cavs eventually tucked in their shirts and put their shoes on the correct feet long enough to make a fourth consecutive run to the NBA Finals. 

    Five years later, here we are again. Different sport, same rabid fan base. 

    I’m not predicting a Super Bowl run for the Browns, but given all that has gone wrong this year, this might be coach Kevin Stefanski’s finest season as head coach. He lost his starting right tackle in the opener, franchise pillar Nick Chubb in Week 2 and franchise quarterback Deshaun Watson in Week 3.

    And the Browns are 4-3. 

    Watson has looked broken and ineffective for much of his time in Cleveland. After his disastrous first quarter at Indianapolis, it’s anyone’s guess at this point when he’ll return to the field, or which version we’ll see when he’s healthy. 

    Yet Stefanski and one of the top defenses in the NFL have dragged the Browns to a 4-3 record and the thick of the AFC playoff race despite horrific quarterback play for most of the season. 

    The Browns are 31st in offensive total pass EPA. That means they’re one of three teams, along with the New York Jets and Chicago Bears, that essentially lose points every time the quarterback drops back to pass. 

    They’re 4-3.

    Browns quarterbacks are dead last in the NFL in completion percentage and 29th in yards per attempt. They lead the league in turnovers, including seven in the fourth quarter. 

    They’re 4-3. 

    Sunday was perhaps Stefanski’s finest football hour for the first 58 minutes. After coaxing the best out of Baker Mayfield and Brissett in previous seasons, he had a vile of snake oil and a few magic beans left for P.J. Walker. Following victories over the 49ers and Colts, a practice squad quarterback was two minutes away from his third consecutive win in a Browns jersey. It was a magical combination of illusion and sleight of hand Sunday in Seattle. He nearly had the lady sawed in half when he hit an artery. Or as my colleague Zac Jackson said on our postgame podcast, Stefanski was painting his Mona Lisa until a kid spilled his pudding on it. 

    The pudding, in this case, was Seahawks safety Jamal Adams’ helmet on third-and-3. 

    Stefanski is 30-27 in his fourth season here. He has used eight quarterbacks to get through 57 games, a telling if not a bit misleading figure since Nick Mullens and Dorian Thompson-Robinson each started only once. 

    Nevertheless, twice now Stefanski thought he had a franchise quarterback and twice he has been fooled. He arrived here expecting a long partnership with Mayfield, a quarterback drafted first overall. When that unraveled, the franchise spent $230 million and three first-round picks to acquire Watson. There is still time for Watson to fix this, but to this point, the trade has been a disaster. Stefanski has never enjoyed much stability at the most important position.

    Mayfield was terrific over the second half of the 2020 season. Everything else has been severed brake lines and broken seat belts.  

    Yet he continues to have this team ready to play and he consistently puts the Browns in position to win late nearly every week. The players may not love every play call either, but they fight hard and play for him. 

    Did you hate watching Walker’s pass bounce off Adams’ helmet and into the arms of Seattle’s Julian Love on third-and-3? Here are the numbers you’ll love. 

    Since Stefanski arrived in Cleveland in 2020, NFL teams convert 58 percent of the time when they run on third-and-3. They convert 49 percent of the time when they throw. (The Browns, incidentally, convert 57 percent of the time when they throw on third-and-3 even after that interception.)

    Stefanski has made plenty of calls that have made me cringe over the years — bringing Jacoby Brissett off the bench to throw deep on fourth-and-1 at Cincinnati last year immediately comes to mind. Every coach has them.

    He’s an aggressive play caller, for better or worse. He calls the game to win the game, not avoid losing it. The Browns threw on third-and-3 just a few plays before the pass that was intercepted, but nobody said a word because the Seahawks were flagged and the Browns were awarded a first down. 

    Stefanski put the game in the defense’s hands against the 49ers and quarterback Brock Purdy sprinted the offense into field goal range. The Browns escaped only after the kick sailed wide. 

    Needing a stop Sunday following the turnover, the defense instead allowed Seattle to average nearly 9 yards a play to score the game-winning touchdown with little resistance. 

    I was ambivalent over the third-and-3 call. I see both sides. What I don’t understand is the incessant insistence the coach be fired after every loss. 

    Here are the records of the coaches who were fired last year: 11-27 (Carolina’s Matt Rhule), 4-11 (Denver’s Nathaniel Hackett), 28-37-1 (Arizona’s Kliff Kingsbury), 3-13-1 (Houston’s Love Smith), 40-33-1 (Indianapolis’ Frank Reich). 

    Stefanski is 30-27. The only coach fired with a winning record last year was Reich. If you want to join the company of resident NFL lunatic Jim Irsay, who fired Reich and replaced him with a television analyst whose only head-coaching experience was in high school, that’s a party I’m not attending. 

    Two lousy minutes turned Stefanski’s masterpiece into mud. Throw away the canvas. Keep the painter and his brushes. 

    @londonbrown said:

    Despite what rabid Browns fans say, this might be Kevin Stefanski’s finest season

    There was a time a few years ago when a certain Cleveland coach couldn’t do much of anything right to appease a rabid fan base. The Cavaliers staggered through a 15-20 stretch from December to March during what became LeBron James’ final season here as restless fans insisted coach Tyronn Lue was the problem and needed to be ousted immediately if not sooner. 

    In my previous life as an NBA beat writer, I spent thousands of words in columns and on radio and television appearances insisting Lue not only wasn’t the problem, he was the one holding it all together. 

    The Cavs eventually tucked in their shirts and put their shoes on the correct feet long enough to make a fourth consecutive run to the NBA Finals. 

    Five years later, here we are again. Different sport, same rabid fan base. 

    I’m not predicting a Super Bowl run for the Browns, but given all that has gone wrong this year, this might be coach Kevin Stefanski’s finest season as head coach. He lost his starting right tackle in the opener, franchise pillar Nick Chubb in Week 2 and franchise quarterback Deshaun Watson in Week 3.

    And the Browns are 4-3. 

    Watson has looked broken and ineffective for much of his time in Cleveland. After his disastrous first quarter at Indianapolis, it’s anyone’s guess at this point when he’ll return to the field, or which version we’ll see when he’s healthy. 

    Yet Stefanski and one of the top defenses in the NFL have dragged the Browns to a 4-3 record and the thick of the AFC playoff race despite horrific quarterback play for most of the season. 

    The Browns are 31st in offensive total pass EPA. That means they’re one of three teams, along with the New York Jets and Chicago Bears, that essentially lose points every time the quarterback drops back to pass. 

    They’re 4-3.

    Browns quarterbacks are dead last in the NFL in completion percentage and 29th in yards per attempt. They lead the league in turnovers, including seven in the fourth quarter. 

    They’re 4-3. 

    Sunday was perhaps Stefanski’s finest football hour for the first 58 minutes. After coaxing the best out of Baker Mayfield and Brissett in previous seasons, he had a vile of snake oil and a few magic beans left for P.J. Walker. Following victories over the 49ers and Colts, a practice squad quarterback was two minutes away from his third consecutive win in a Browns jersey. It was a magical combination of illusion and sleight of hand Sunday in Seattle. He nearly had the lady sawed in half when he hit an artery. Or as my colleague Zac Jackson said on our postgame podcast, Stefanski was painting his Mona Lisa until a kid spilled his pudding on it. 

    The pudding, in this case, was Seahawks safety Jamal Adams’ helmet on third-and-3. 

    Stefanski is 30-27 in his fourth season here. He has used eight quarterbacks to get through 57 games, a telling if not a bit misleading figure since Nick Mullens and Dorian Thompson-Robinson each started only once. 

    Nevertheless, twice now Stefanski thought he had a franchise quarterback and twice he has been fooled. He arrived here expecting a long partnership with Mayfield, a quarterback drafted first overall. When that unraveled, the franchise spent $230 million and three first-round picks to acquire Watson. There is still time for Watson to fix this, but to this point, the trade has been a disaster. Stefanski has never enjoyed much stability at the most important position.

    Mayfield was terrific over the second half of the 2020 season. Everything else has been severed brake lines and broken seat belts.  

    Yet he continues to have this team ready to play and he consistently puts the Browns in position to win late nearly every week. The players may not love every play call either, but they fight hard and play for him. 

    Did you hate watching Walker’s pass bounce off Adams’ helmet and into the arms of Seattle’s Julian Love on third-and-3? Here are the numbers you’ll love. 

    Since Stefanski arrived in Cleveland in 2020, NFL teams convert 58 percent of the time when they run on third-and-3. They convert 49 percent of the time when they throw. (The Browns, incidentally, convert 57 percent of the time when they throw on third-and-3 even after that interception.)

    Stefanski has made plenty of calls that have made me cringe over the years — bringing Jacoby Brissett off the bench to throw deep on fourth-and-1 at Cincinnati last year immediately comes to mind. Every coach has them.

    He’s an aggressive play caller, for better or worse. He calls the game to win the game, not avoid losing it. The Browns threw on third-and-3 just a few plays before the pass that was intercepted, but nobody said a word because the Seahawks were flagged and the Browns were awarded a first down. 

    Stefanski put the game in the defense’s hands against the 49ers and quarterback Brock Purdy sprinted the offense into field goal range. The Browns escaped only after the kick sailed wide. 

    Needing a stop Sunday following the turnover, the defense instead allowed Seattle to average nearly 9 yards a play to score the game-winning touchdown with little resistance. 

    I was ambivalent over the third-and-3 call. I see both sides. What I don’t understand is the incessant insistence the coach be fired after every loss. 

    Here are the records of the coaches who were fired last year: 11-27 (Carolina’s Matt Rhule), 4-11 (Denver’s Nathaniel Hackett), 28-37-1 (Arizona’s Kliff Kingsbury), 3-13-1 (Houston’s Love Smith), 40-33-1 (Indianapolis’ Frank Reich). 

    Stefanski is 30-27. The only coach fired with a winning record last year was Reich. If you want to join the company of resident NFL lunatic Jim Irsay, who fired Reich and replaced him with a television analyst whose only head-coaching experience was in high school, that’s a party I’m not attending. 

    Two lousy minutes turned Stefanski’s masterpiece into mud. Throw away the canvas. Keep the painter and his brushes. 

    Not only that, but how many Head Coaches here have reached the playoffs since getting the team back in 1999?  Even though Stefanski had to stay home with COVID, the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won 48-37 with the game plan just 1 week after beating Pittsburgh to finish with an 11-5 record.

    Right now, this is just bad luck or karma with Watson and the QB depth.  My old coach used to say "we're only as good as our last guy."  I'm still kind of creeped out by that saying because he was looking at me the last time he said it.  

  • @londonbrown said:

    Despite what rabid Browns fans say, this might be Kevin Stefanski’s finest season

    There was a time a few years ago when a certain Cleveland coach couldn’t do much of anything right to appease a rabid fan base. The Cavaliers staggered through a 15-20 stretch from December to March during what became LeBron James’ final season here as restless fans insisted coach Tyronn Lue was the problem and needed to be ousted immediately if not sooner. 

    In my previous life as an NBA beat writer, I spent thousands of words in columns and on radio and television appearances insisting Lue not only wasn’t the problem, he was the one holding it all together. 

    The Cavs eventually tucked in their shirts and put their shoes on the correct feet long enough to make a fourth consecutive run to the NBA Finals. 

    Five years later, here we are again. Different sport, same rabid fan base. 

    I’m not predicting a Super Bowl run for the Browns, but given all that has gone wrong this year, this might be coach Kevin Stefanski’s finest season as head coach. He lost his starting right tackle in the opener, franchise pillar Nick Chubb in Week 2 and franchise quarterback Deshaun Watson in Week 3.

    And the Browns are 4-3. 

    Watson has looked broken and ineffective for much of his time in Cleveland. After his disastrous first quarter at Indianapolis, it’s anyone’s guess at this point when he’ll return to the field, or which version we’ll see when he’s healthy. 

    Yet Stefanski and one of the top defenses in the NFL have dragged the Browns to a 4-3 record and the thick of the AFC playoff race despite horrific quarterback play for most of the season. 

    The Browns are 31st in offensive total pass EPA. That means they’re one of three teams, along with the New York Jets and Chicago Bears, that essentially lose points every time the quarterback drops back to pass. 

    They’re 4-3.

    Browns quarterbacks are dead last in the NFL in completion percentage and 29th in yards per attempt. They lead the league in turnovers, including seven in the fourth quarter. 

    They’re 4-3. 

    Sunday was perhaps Stefanski’s finest football hour for the first 58 minutes. After coaxing the best out of Baker Mayfield and Brissett in previous seasons, he had a vile of snake oil and a few magic beans left for P.J. Walker. Following victories over the 49ers and Colts, a practice squad quarterback was two minutes away from his third consecutive win in a Browns jersey. It was a magical combination of illusion and sleight of hand Sunday in Seattle. He nearly had the lady sawed in half when he hit an artery. Or as my colleague Zac Jackson said on our postgame podcast, Stefanski was painting his Mona Lisa until a kid spilled his pudding on it. 

    The pudding, in this case, was Seahawks safety Jamal Adams’ helmet on third-and-3. 

    Stefanski is 30-27 in his fourth season here. He has used eight quarterbacks to get through 57 games, a telling if not a bit misleading figure since Nick Mullens and Dorian Thompson-Robinson each started only once. 

    Nevertheless, twice now Stefanski thought he had a franchise quarterback and twice he has been fooled. He arrived here expecting a long partnership with Mayfield, a quarterback drafted first overall. When that unraveled, the franchise spent $230 million and three first-round picks to acquire Watson. There is still time for Watson to fix this, but to this point, the trade has been a disaster. Stefanski has never enjoyed much stability at the most important position.

    Mayfield was terrific over the second half of the 2020 season. Everything else has been severed brake lines and broken seat belts.  

    Yet he continues to have this team ready to play and he consistently puts the Browns in position to win late nearly every week. The players may not love every play call either, but they fight hard and play for him. 

    Did you hate watching Walker’s pass bounce off Adams’ helmet and into the arms of Seattle’s Julian Love on third-and-3? Here are the numbers you’ll love. 

    Since Stefanski arrived in Cleveland in 2020, NFL teams convert 58 percent of the time when they run on third-and-3. They convert 49 percent of the time when they throw. (The Browns, incidentally, convert 57 percent of the time when they throw on third-and-3 even after that interception.)

    Stefanski has made plenty of calls that have made me cringe over the years — bringing Jacoby Brissett off the bench to throw deep on fourth-and-1 at Cincinnati last year immediately comes to mind. Every coach has them.

    He’s an aggressive play caller, for better or worse. He calls the game to win the game, not avoid losing it. The Browns threw on third-and-3 just a few plays before the pass that was intercepted, but nobody said a word because the Seahawks were flagged and the Browns were awarded a first down. 

    Stefanski put the game in the defense’s hands against the 49ers and quarterback Brock Purdy sprinted the offense into field goal range. The Browns escaped only after the kick sailed wide. 

    Needing a stop Sunday following the turnover, the defense instead allowed Seattle to average nearly 9 yards a play to score the game-winning touchdown with little resistance. 

    I was ambivalent over the third-and-3 call. I see both sides. What I don’t understand is the incessant insistence the coach be fired after every loss. 

    Here are the records of the coaches who were fired last year: 11-27 (Carolina’s Matt Rhule), 4-11 (Denver’s Nathaniel Hackett), 28-37-1 (Arizona’s Kliff Kingsbury), 3-13-1 (Houston’s Love Smith), 40-33-1 (Indianapolis’ Frank Reich). 

    Stefanski is 30-27. The only coach fired with a winning record last year was Reich. If you want to join the company of resident NFL lunatic Jim Irsay, who fired Reich and replaced him with a television analyst whose only head-coaching experience was in high school, that’s a party I’m not attending. 

    Two lousy minutes turned Stefanski’s masterpiece into mud. Throw away the canvas. Keep the painter and his brushes. 

    Not only that, but how many Head Coaches here have reached the playoffs since getting the team back in 1999?  Even though Stefanski had to stay home with COVID, the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won 48-37 with the game plan just 1 week after beating Pittsburgh to finish with an 11-5 record.

    Right now, this is just bad luck or karma with Watson and the QB depth.  My old coach used to say "we're only as good as our last guy."  I'm still kind of creeped out by that saying because he was looking at me the last time he said it.  

    @flugel said:

    Not only that, but how many Head Coaches here have reached the playoffs since getting the team back in 1999?  Even though Stefanski had to stay home with COVID, the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won 48-37 with the game plan just 1 week after beating Pittsburgh to finish with an 11-5 record.

    Right now, this is just bad luck or karma with Watson and the QB depth.  My old coach used to say "we're only as good as our last guy."  I'm still kind of creeped out by that saying because he was looking at me the last time he said it.  

    There's some truth to that  Mr Flugs !   As in what our old coaches and other influential people in our lives say   (or have said)    to us.   Carry on my friend !   

    AND  as always .....  GO BROWNS !