Love for Stefanski.
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Saw this on social media. Didn’t fact check it, but we haven’t had a HC who got 30 or more games with a winning record since ‘the return’.
Saw this on social media. Didn’t fact check it, but we haven’t had a HC who got 30 or more games with a winning record since ‘the return’.
12 coaches. Only three (3) with a freakin' PLUS record !
Geeeeezzzz. Simple enough ?
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Doing some fact checking now. Robiskie was 1-4 as interim HC. Stupid memes…
https://pro-football-history.com/coach/339/terry-robiskie-bio
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Doing some fact checking now. Robiskie was 1-4 as interim HC. Stupid memes…
https://pro-football-history.com/coach/339/terry-robiskie-bio
Doing some fact checking now. Robiskie was 1-4 as interim HC. Stupid memes…
https://pro-football-history.com/coach/339/terry-robiskie-bio
Remember memes = cartoons. Funny to look at but still cartoons.
And 31 are the most wins by any Cleveland BROWNS coach since when ? ( look it up, surprised ? )
...... edit .... and by the end of the 2023 - 2024 season he might pass one more BIG name.
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Saw this on social media. Didn’t fact check it, but we haven’t had a HC who got 30 or more games with a winning record since ‘the return’.
Saw this on social media. Didn’t fact check it, but we haven’t had a HC who got 30 or more games with a winning record since ‘the return’.
I got a Christmas present from my Dad in 1973, a book called "Cleveland Browns, Great Teams, Great Years," by Jack Clary (I was 10).
He knew I loved the Browns, but warned me that "Art Modell ruined this team," and of course I didn't believe him, mainly because the Browns made the playoff in 1972, and at 10 years old I already knew everything lol. Turns out my Dad was right
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In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.
I'm not disagreeing they botched the QB room. Just saying it's way to early to judge DTR
I'm not disagreeing they botched the QB room. Just saying it's way to early to judge DTR
You guys both make good points; and I'm guessing Mr Me-Aggie agrees with your point about judging DTR too early.
Some of the preseason success we saw with him involved throwing to the group of Receivers he was used to working with in practice. That being the case, there was familiarity and chemistry. The week he was thrown out to the infestation of Rats - it wasn't like he practiced ALL week with the ones with the game plan. That's why it looked like he had Tabasco Sauce or Dave's Insanity Sauce in his eyes when he had to make inexperienced split second decisions with teammates he just hasn't practiced with very often. He's used to throwing to the scout team receivers. If they did that to him at UCLA - he wouldn't have compiled a 70% completion rate last year.
Beyond wishful thinking, I really think there's something there to tap if the Browns work smarter with this backup QB thing. If they ever gave him a whole week to prepare with the starters, I don't see ANY way the upside is better with PJ Walker (unless I got that Tabasco Sause in my eyes too). The alleged experience advantage Walker has been dumpster fire make the best of it sandlot football wing-it and fling it. Walker isn't Brissett in terms of learning from mistakes - STILL throwing across his body his body outside of the peripheral vision. Still abruptly ending a decision to run to the daylight promising about 10 rushing yards or so to throw ill-advised passes into traffic. Having said that, Eric Zeier once fooled the Hell out of me. If any of you guys are old enough to remember, he looked real promising in the pre-season and I think he had real strong close in a game the Browns were getting rathoused. When the Browns decided to let him start some games - he looked nothing like the promising versions of Zeier. Those "we don't get fooled again" lyrics from "The Who" didn't pertain to me. Still getting fooled because practice makes perfect...
Get me out of this post...
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Yes, but just because DTR isn't ready yet doesn't mean he can't be eventually. Started 4 years at UCLA, we will see
In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.
In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.
It's like we kept Dobbs here for a couple years only to let him go about 1-2 months before we needed to look to him. I'm not one to pop champagne for adding a 6th round draft pick 2 years from now. This hasn't been the franchise finding a Tom Brady or a Terrell Davis in round 6 or a Marques Colston in round 7. I'd rather have some FREAKIN continuity in the QB room should an injury to the starter unfolds... If this FO had foresight 20/20 - they wouldn't have to listen to our hindsight 20/20 they like refer to as white noise.
I'm just 3 box tops from Lucky Charms and countless brain cells shy of a Master's Degree from Harvard. Stay tuned..
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In a season we built a defense to contend in the playoffs, we definitely made a mistake having a rookie 5th rounder as backup to DW. Eventually does not mean possibly in the next game and that is the reality of improper planning by the supposed "brain trust". They screwed the pooch.
It's like we kept Dobbs here for a couple years only to let him go about 1-2 months before we needed to look to him. I'm not one to pop champagne for adding a 6th round draft pick 2 years from now. This hasn't been the franchise finding a Tom Brady or a Terrell Davis in round 6 or a Marques Colston in round 7. I'd rather have some FREAKIN continuity in the QB room should an injury to the starter unfolds... If this FO had foresight 20/20 - they wouldn't have to listen to our hindsight 20/20 they like refer to as white noise.
I'm just 3 box tops from Lucky Charms and countless brain cells shy of a Master's Degree from Harvard. Stay tuned..
I'm just 3 box tops from Lucky Charms and countless brain cells shy of a Master's Degree from Harvard. Stay tuned..
That’s ok Flugs…you have a PhD in common sense.
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That’s ok Flugs…you have a PhD in common sense.
Thanks CD - Backatchya!
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Worth pointing out - the Seahawks, with all their offensive starters, put up the same numbers of points on the Ravens that the DTR Browns offense did.
And the defense, which had their struggles early, gave up nearly 10 less points.
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Worth pointing out - the Seahawks, with all their offensive starters, put up the same numbers of points on the Ravens that the DTR Browns offense did.
And the defense, which had their struggles early, gave up nearly 10 less points.
Worth pointing out - the Seahawks, with all their offensive starters, put up the same numbers of points on the Ravens that the DTR Browns offense did.
And the defense, which had their struggles early, gave up nearly 10 less points.
Except what worries me is the Ravens destroyed the Seahawks, (the team we just lost to) and the week before that the Lions. Seattle got all of three points, and the Ratbirds ran roughshod over them, racking up almost 300 rushing yards. Just watching the Baltimore- Seahawk highlights, it looked similar to what the Browns did to the Cardinals. You could make the case when the weekly beauty contest, er- NFL power rankings come out tomorrow, Baltimore should get serious consideration for the top spot.
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Worth pointing out - the Seahawks, with all their offensive starters, put up the same numbers of points on the Ravens that the DTR Browns offense did.
And the defense, which had their struggles early, gave up nearly 10 less points.
Except what worries me is the Ravens destroyed the Seahawks, (the team we just lost to) and the week before that the Lions. Seattle got all of three points, and the Ratbirds ran roughshod over them, racking up almost 300 rushing yards. Just watching the Baltimore- Seahawk highlights, it looked similar to what the Browns did to the Cardinals. You could make the case when the weekly beauty contest, er- NFL power rankings come out tomorrow, Baltimore should get serious consideration for the top spot.
Except what worries me is the Ravens destroyed the Seahawks, (the team we just lost to) and the week before that the Lions. Seattle got all of three points, and the Ratbirds ran roughshod over them, racking up almost 300 rushing yards. Just watching the Baltimore- Seahawk highlights, it looked similar to what the Browns did to the Cardinals. You could make the case when the weekly beauty contest, er- NFL power rankings come out tomorrow, Baltimore should get serious consideration for the top spot.
Baltimore has really found their stride unfortunately, but I think we match up well with them on paper - lots of speedsters on defense. Hopefully it’s a different looking game with Watson as QB.
On the note of stefanski praise, his teams have been monumentally better against the afcn than the previous bunch of coaches.
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Worth pointing out - the Seahawks, with all their offensive starters, put up the same numbers of points on the Ravens that the DTR Browns offense did.
And the defense, which had their struggles early, gave up nearly 10 less points.
Except what worries me is the Ravens destroyed the Seahawks, (the team we just lost to) and the week before that the Lions. Seattle got all of three points, and the Ratbirds ran roughshod over them, racking up almost 300 rushing yards. Just watching the Baltimore- Seahawk highlights, it looked similar to what the Browns did to the Cardinals. You could make the case when the weekly beauty contest, er- NFL power rankings come out tomorrow, Baltimore should get serious consideration for the top spot.
You could make the case when the weekly beauty contest, er- NFL power rankings come out tomorrow, Baltimore should get serious consideration for the top spot.
True, definitely a challenge for the Browns this week. I bet they ram it between the tackles vs CLE 70% of the time.
Thing with the Rats is they are ultra dependent on Lamar. Without Lamar, they're ordinary at best. I can't stand him, but it looks like he's vastly improved passing it....can he do it in the playoffs has always been the question.
I don't want to steal anybody's thunder, like Zombo & his "this week in the AFC North," but I see a low scoring slugfest. The game might be over by 330 EST. Lots of rushing attempts.
Go Browns
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Stefanski is closer to winning coach of the year than being in serious trouble. Have the Browns gotten lucky breaks? Absolutely. But realizing we had essentially the worst QB play in the league over the course of nearly a month and are firmly in the thick of things is a testament to the job the man is doing.
The reality is, Kev I believe is the most statistically aggressive coach in the NFL if not top 2-3. It's going to drive the ire of us fans when it doesn't work.
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Stefanski is closer to winning coach of the year than being in serious trouble. Have the Browns gotten lucky breaks? Absolutely. But realizing we had essentially the worst QB play in the league over the course of nearly a month and are firmly in the thick of things is a testament to the job the man is doing.
The reality is, Kev I believe is the most statistically aggressive coach in the NFL if not top 2-3. It's going to drive the ire of us fans when it doesn't work.
Stefanski is closer to winning coach of the year than being in serious trouble. Have the Browns gotten lucky breaks? Absolutely. But realizing we had essentially the worst QB play in the league over the course of nearly a month and are firmly in the thick of things is a testament to the job the man is doing.
That is very true. Past Browns teams have tanked in situations like they went through the last few weeks, but they kept fighting. I've been a critic of Stefanski, but he should be giving his props for keeping the ship upright in a very trying time. That being said, it could really be undone if the Browns lose the next two games. 0-4 to the Ravens and Steelers is a horrible look. In fact, IMO losing all four games to our divisional foes, who are known for being physical teams I think could lead to a huge philosophical change by the Haslams. I wouldn't be shocked if their love of analytical minds running the team would evolve into wanting an "old-school tough guy" type of head coach. I think these next two games are enormous for this organization.
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Stefanski is closer to winning coach of the year than being in serious trouble. Have the Browns gotten lucky breaks? Absolutely. But realizing we had essentially the worst QB play in the league over the course of nearly a month and are firmly in the thick of things is a testament to the job the man is doing.
That is very true. Past Browns teams have tanked in situations like they went through the last few weeks, but they kept fighting. I've been a critic of Stefanski, but he should be giving his props for keeping the ship upright in a very trying time. That being said, it could really be undone if the Browns lose the next two games. 0-4 to the Ravens and Steelers is a horrible look. In fact, IMO losing all four games to our divisional foes, who are known for being physical teams I think could lead to a huge philosophical change by the Haslams. I wouldn't be shocked if their love of analytical minds running the team would evolve into wanting an "old-school tough guy" type of head coach. I think these next two games are enormous for this organization.
To me, losing to the Ravens is what it is. They are playing lights out right now, and overall are a top 2-3 team in the NFL. That loss would really pivot the focus to being a top wild card team, which would be right in front of the team given the schedule after Pittsburgh.
I definitely think though Pittsburgh is in that "must win" category. Not only are they direct competition for that WC spot, a loss to them, at home, would be a bad tone setter for the rest of the year.
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To me, losing to the Ravens is what it is. They are playing lights out right now, and overall are a top 2-3 team in the NFL. That loss would really pivot the focus to being a top wild card team, which would be right in front of the team given the schedule after Pittsburgh.
I definitely think though Pittsburgh is in that "must win" category. Not only are they direct competition for that WC spot, a loss to them, at home, would be a bad tone setter for the rest of the year.
To me, losing to the Ravens is what it is. They are playing lights out right now, and overall are a top 2-3 team in the NFL. That loss would really pivot the focus to being a top wild card team, which would be right in front of the team given the schedule after Pittsburgh.
I definitely think though Pittsburgh is in that "must win" category. Not only are they direct competition for that WC spot, a loss to them, at home, would be a bad tone setter for the rest of the year.
My hope is they have peaked then stumble against us... Yeah.. Wishful thinking but... Any given Sunday , Right?
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It cannot be stated enough, the job Schwartz but (including) Stefanski has done to keep this unit glued together. Easily coach of the year this far.
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