▪︎ ? The hardest / easiest schedules from WEEK 12 on out this 2023 season.
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~ And the 2024 NFL DRAFT can never be that far away ..... can it ?
DETERMINING THE NFL DRAFT ORDER1. Non-playoff teams get picks 1-18 -- the team with the worst record picks first overall2. Teams eliminated in the Wild Card round get picks 19-243. Teams eliminated in the Divisional round get picks 25-284. Teams eliminated in the Conference Championships get picks 29-305. Super Bowl loser gets pick 316. Super Bowl winner gets pick 327. Tiebreakers: strength of schedule, division tiebreakers, conference tiebreakers, interconference tiebreakers, coin toss8. This order applies to all seven rounds of the draft with tied teams cycling positions from round to round9. Weeks before the draft, up to a total of 32 compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lost significant free agents -- these picks are made after rounds 3-7 -
~ And the 2024 NFL DRAFT can never be that far away ..... can it ?
DETERMINING THE NFL DRAFT ORDER1. Non-playoff teams get picks 1-18 -- the team with the worst record picks first overall2. Teams eliminated in the Wild Card round get picks 19-243. Teams eliminated in the Divisional round get picks 25-284. Teams eliminated in the Conference Championships get picks 29-305. Super Bowl loser gets pick 316. Super Bowl winner gets pick 327. Tiebreakers: strength of schedule, division tiebreakers, conference tiebreakers, interconference tiebreakers, coin toss8. This order applies to all seven rounds of the draft with tied teams cycling positions from round to round9. Weeks before the draft, up to a total of 32 compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lost significant free agents -- these picks are made after rounds 3-7~ And the 2024 NFL DRAFT can never be that far away ..... can it ?
DETERMINING THE NFL DRAFT ORDER1. Non-playoff teams get picks 1-18 -- the team with the worst record picks first overall2. Teams eliminated in the Wild Card round get picks 19-243. Teams eliminated in the Divisional round get picks 25-284. Teams eliminated in the Conference Championships get picks 29-305. Super Bowl loser gets pick 316. Super Bowl winner gets pick 327. Tiebreakers: strength of schedule, division tiebreakers, conference tiebreakers, interconference tiebreakers, coin toss8. This order applies to all seven rounds of the draft with tied teams cycling positions from round to round9. Weeks before the draft, up to a total of 32 compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lost significant free agents -- these picks are made after rounds 3-7Oh noooooooooo
Sorry, the Browns were so bad for so long, that's all that was discussed from October- August. The dam draft.
I don't miss those days.
Go Browns
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Like I posted elsewhere mjp... I'd rate the Steelers SOS even lower than #26. Sunday will tell us a lot... Almost have to root for the Bengals. MHO as of now they're less of a threat than the Steelers.
And yes Bob, it's much more pleasant late November to be discussing playoff scenarios than 2024 draft order.
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Like I posted elsewhere mjp... I'd rate the Steelers SOS even lower than #26. Sunday will tell us a lot... Almost have to root for the Bengals. MHO as of now they're less of a threat than the Steelers.
And yes Bob, it's much more pleasant late November to be discussing playoff scenarios than 2024 draft order.
Like I posted elsewhere mjp... I'd rate the Steelers SOS even lower than #26. Sunday will tell us a lot... Almost have to root for the Bengals. MHO as of now they're less of a threat than the Steelers.
And yes Bob, it's much more pleasant late November to be discussing playoff scenarios than 2024 draft order.
True on both.
The draft is like a Christmas list. You never get what you want for the most part, and many times the shiny new toy loses it's luster quickly.
My other issue with the draft was how the Browns seemed to forget the draft was designed to make bad teams better. They constantly traded assets away to move up or down, & went 4-12 or 5-11 forever, & sprinkled in a remarkable 1-31.
I was very very happy John Dorsey put an end to that BS, & actually drafted football players.
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Like I posted elsewhere mjp... I'd rate the Steelers SOS even lower than #26. Sunday will tell us a lot... Almost have to root for the Bengals. MHO as of now they're less of a threat than the Steelers.
And yes Bob, it's much more pleasant late November to be discussing playoff scenarios than 2024 draft order.
True on both.
The draft is like a Christmas list. You never get what you want for the most part, and many times the shiny new toy loses it's luster quickly.
My other issue with the draft was how the Browns seemed to forget the draft was designed to make bad teams better. They constantly traded assets away to move up or down, & went 4-12 or 5-11 forever, & sprinkled in a remarkable 1-31.
I was very very happy John Dorsey put an end to that BS, & actually drafted football players.
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oh fuck you had to mention his name . cause some here really hated him
He wasn't perfect, but he did bring some pretty good players here.
Ward, Chubb, Teller come to mind right off the rip.
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He wasn't perfect, but he did bring some pretty good players here.
Ward, Chubb, Teller come to mind right off the rip.
he improved the roster with real players
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I didn't.. For those keeping track, Dorsey is now the Senior Personnel Director for the LIONS. Their talent acquisition in the draft has been rather good of late. ?
He died on the Kitchens hire, and my guess is he had no love for DePodesta.
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whoa berry hasnt made good trades or draft picks ?
He has. I don't dislike him, I'm just saying he's much more camera-polished, if that's a thing lol.
All teams, all GMs make mistakes (along with scouting departments). It's magnified more when the lousy team makes a bad choice (as we've witnessed).
It's probably a lot harder to be a GM in the salary cap era. Cutting players loose that you really don't want to, luring FAs looking for a payday, drafting has always been iffy to a degree.
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whoa berry hasnt made good trades or draft picks ?
He has. I don't dislike him, I'm just saying he's much more camera-polished, if that's a thing lol.
All teams, all GMs make mistakes (along with scouting departments). It's magnified more when the lousy team makes a bad choice (as we've witnessed).
It's probably a lot harder to be a GM in the salary cap era. Cutting players loose that you really don't want to, luring FAs looking for a payday, drafting has always been iffy to a degree.
All teams, all GMs make mistakes (along with scouting departments). It's magnified more when the lousy team makes a bad choice (as we've witnessed).
Yeah, they really do. It's so hard to judge, too. Like, how many of us were ready to write off Jordan Elliott? I know I certainly was, but he looks like a quality rotational player now.
I think the biggest mistake Berry made that well could've tanked our season is trading Dobbs, then NOT making another trade to get him back or someone else like him before trade deadline. Many fans and beat writers openly questioned the decision, and it honestly didn't seem that complicated. Dobbs isn't GREAT, but he had familiarity with the offense and offered more experience over DTR. It was a huge gaffe and I really hope it doesn't kill our special season.
That being said, DTR can and will get better. Like many of us said before, our coaches were determined not to lose the game on offense against Pittsburgh like we did the first time. Expect to see a different offense to some degree Sunday. How? I'm glad you asked!
Remember those 5-6 "read-options" we ran where it looked like DTR had a zillion yards if he kept it? Well, I don't believe he had the option to keep it at ALL. Film shows he wasn't even looking at the DE, and I'm betting we were setting up the play for future games, and we coach didn't want DTR to mess around with their edge studs. Also, our depth of target and time to throw will increase. We'll throw it deeper (a bit) and try to hit some explosive plays in the right conditions.
It won't be the greatest show on turf or anything, but it won't be last week, either. I really hope we can score enough points and we don't need Flacco because if the season tanks due to the offense and Dobbs keeps performing well for a backup, Berry will be judged VERY harshly.
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Just beat Denver this week !
But, Also Keep this in mind if your thinking of going to Home game Jags..... or at Houston ?
TV Flex scheduling could change Day and or Time...
Keep winning & stay tuned
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The chargers are no easy opponent, they just can’t finish for some reason. Hopefully they find a way against Baltimore Sunday night.
And we find a way to beat Denver, so we can be the AFCN crown holder late into a season for once.
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All teams, all GMs make mistakes (along with scouting departments). It's magnified more when the lousy team makes a bad choice (as we've witnessed).
Yeah, they really do. It's so hard to judge, too. Like, how many of us were ready to write off Jordan Elliott? I know I certainly was, but he looks like a quality rotational player now.
I think the biggest mistake Berry made that well could've tanked our season is trading Dobbs, then NOT making another trade to get him back or someone else like him before trade deadline. Many fans and beat writers openly questioned the decision, and it honestly didn't seem that complicated. Dobbs isn't GREAT, but he had familiarity with the offense and offered more experience over DTR. It was a huge gaffe and I really hope it doesn't kill our special season.
That being said, DTR can and will get better. Like many of us said before, our coaches were determined not to lose the game on offense against Pittsburgh like we did the first time. Expect to see a different offense to some degree Sunday. How? I'm glad you asked!
Remember those 5-6 "read-options" we ran where it looked like DTR had a zillion yards if he kept it? Well, I don't believe he had the option to keep it at ALL. Film shows he wasn't even looking at the DE, and I'm betting we were setting up the play for future games, and we coach didn't want DTR to mess around with their edge studs. Also, our depth of target and time to throw will increase. We'll throw it deeper (a bit) and try to hit some explosive plays in the right conditions.
It won't be the greatest show on turf or anything, but it won't be last week, either. I really hope we can score enough points and we don't need Flacco because if the season tanks due to the offense and Dobbs keeps performing well for a backup, Berry will be judged VERY harshly.
Yeah, they really do. It's so hard to judge, too. Like, how many of us were ready to write off Jordan Elliott? I know I certainly was, but he looks like a quality rotational player now.
I think the biggest mistake Berry made that well could've tanked our season is trading Dobbs, then NOT making another trade to get him back or someone else like him before trade deadline. Many fans and beat writers openly questioned the decision, and it honestly didn't seem that complicated. Dobbs isn't GREAT, but he had familiarity with the offense and offered more experience over DTR. It was a huge gaffe and I really hope it doesn't kill our special season.
That being said, DTR can and will get better. Like many of us said before, our coaches were determined not to lose the game on offense against Pittsburgh like we did the first time. Expect to see a different offense to some degree Sunday. How? I'm glad you asked!
Remember those 5-6 "read-options" we ran where it looked like DTR had a zillion yards if he kept it? Well, I don't believe he had the option to keep it at ALL. Film shows he wasn't even looking at the DE, and I'm betting we were setting up the play for future games, and we coach didn't want DTR to mess around with their edge studs. Also, our depth of target and time to throw will increase. We'll throw it deeper (a bit) and try to hit some explosive plays in the right conditions.
It won't be the greatest show on turf or anything, but it won't be last week, either. I really hope we can score enough points and we don't need Flacco because if the season tanks due to the offense and Dobbs keeps performing well for a backup, Berry will be judged VERY harshly.
Right. The backup QB is always a point of concern & they gambled on it. Hopefully it won't hurt 'em.
Nobody saw the Dobbs' success coming. Probably not even Dobbs, but you have to seriously admire his determination.
Remember his stint in Tenn last season? It was dismal, that's why he was set free again.
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Yeah, they really do. It's so hard to judge, too. Like, how many of us were ready to write off Jordan Elliott? I know I certainly was, but he looks like a quality rotational player now.
I think the biggest mistake Berry made that well could've tanked our season is trading Dobbs, then NOT making another trade to get him back or someone else like him before trade deadline. Many fans and beat writers openly questioned the decision, and it honestly didn't seem that complicated. Dobbs isn't GREAT, but he had familiarity with the offense and offered more experience over DTR. It was a huge gaffe and I really hope it doesn't kill our special season.
That being said, DTR can and will get better. Like many of us said before, our coaches were determined not to lose the game on offense against Pittsburgh like we did the first time. Expect to see a different offense to some degree Sunday. How? I'm glad you asked!
Remember those 5-6 "read-options" we ran where it looked like DTR had a zillion yards if he kept it? Well, I don't believe he had the option to keep it at ALL. Film shows he wasn't even looking at the DE, and I'm betting we were setting up the play for future games, and we coach didn't want DTR to mess around with their edge studs. Also, our depth of target and time to throw will increase. We'll throw it deeper (a bit) and try to hit some explosive plays in the right conditions.
It won't be the greatest show on turf or anything, but it won't be last week, either. I really hope we can score enough points and we don't need Flacco because if the season tanks due to the offense and Dobbs keeps performing well for a backup, Berry will be judged VERY harshly.
Right. The backup QB is always a point of concern & they gambled on it. Hopefully it won't hurt 'em.
Nobody saw the Dobbs' success coming. Probably not even Dobbs, but you have to seriously admire his determination.
Remember his stint in Tenn last season? It was dismal, that's why he was set free again.
Remember his stint in Tenn last season? It was dismal, that's why he was set free again
Absolutely. Like we always say, there's generally a reason someone is a backup. I truly believe we'll know more about DTR this week, mainly because our running game should be MUCH better. I mean, think about it...we literally couldn't run against Steelers at ALL. That's a very difficult road for a rookie QB! I don't expect to be world beaters on the ground, but it HAS to be better.
If we can get a little running game cooking, it'll allow us chances for play-action and some deeper drops needed to take a couple shots. We were so scared of Pittsburgh, rightfully so, that we didn't even try to get deep. I don't expect DTR to throw it around the yard or anything, but I do expect a much different offense.
Where it gets interesting is with Joe Flacco. Joe still has a plus arm, make no mistake, but he's a literal statue. Any rush or pressure and the play is toast. But there's seems to be the feeling across the various pods I listen to that it's not if but WHEN Flacco starts. I'm not sure I believe it, and I truly believe our best course of action is for DTR to steadily improve, even if incrementally, but if he can't...Flacco will play.
Also, Ward seems to be out for at least a week maybe more. Our injuries are mounting and it's unfortunate. We'll need points to win Sunday.
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