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  • @browns149 said:

    Watching this awful Monday night game. The Bears have it 3rd and 2. The Vikings are playing press man coverage. The Bears call a WR screen. It loses 3 yards

    My question is, WHY would you even call that play, and why didn’t Fields change the play?

    Fields is  a shit dumbass QB..

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    Fields is  a shit dumbass QB..

    But Zach Wilson is a good QB who is just being used improperly, right? ?

  • N Neo

    In regards to DTR, he has made significant strides between his starts. His effort against the Broncos was a good one maybe even a winning effort if it wasn't for the injury. It was a 5 point game when he left, still within striking distance. He had two TD's dropped. But people are critisizing DTR. Some stupid people floating around this board....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @neo said:

    In regards to DTR, he has made significant strides between his starts. His effort against the Broncos was a good one maybe even a winning effort if it wasn't for the injury. It was a 5 point game when he left, still within striking distance. He had two TD's dropped. But people are critisizing DTR. Some stupid people floating around this board....

    Tom Brady only threw 3 passes as an NFL rookie and he only completed 1 of them for 6 yards.  Let's pretend for a second he did that here as a Cleveland Brown prior to hindsight 20/20, the same type of cynics would have been here rooting against him so they could post their "I told you he'd suck" stuff.  

    Sometimes a team has to protect a rookie QB like not letting him start too early on as a rookie (Ie: Tom Brady, Steve McNair, Patrick Mahomes).  Mahomes might have started 1 game or 2 after KC clinched a playoff spot early when Alex Smith was starting. There's a lot to learn; and a very 1st start against a team like Baltimore leading the NFL in sacks at the time can be overwhelming.  The next time DTR started was against Pitt when we had our 3rd string RT and our 2nd string left tackle filling in as starters.  The plan was quicker/shorter passes to keep TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith from getting to him as much as that was possible.  Then people fussed about that game plan which actually BEAT Pittsburgh this time. Keep in mind, DTR is a 5th round pick which was supposed to be watching Watson starting all year.  Cincy has the same thing happening with a very inexperienced Browning starting at QB since Burrow went on IR.

    Hopefully we'll find a groove with whoever we have to go with at QB.  

  • @neo said:

    In regards to DTR, he has made significant strides between his starts. His effort against the Broncos was a good one maybe even a winning effort if it wasn't for the injury. It was a 5 point game when he left, still within striking distance. He had two TD's dropped. But people are critisizing DTR. Some stupid people floating around this board....

    Tom Brady only threw 3 passes as an NFL rookie and he only completed 1 of them for 6 yards.  Let's pretend for a second he did that here as a Cleveland Brown prior to hindsight 20/20, the same type of cynics would have been here rooting against him so they could post their "I told you he'd suck" stuff.  

    Sometimes a team has to protect a rookie QB like not letting him start too early on as a rookie (Ie: Tom Brady, Steve McNair, Patrick Mahomes).  Mahomes might have started 1 game or 2 after KC clinched a playoff spot early when Alex Smith was starting. There's a lot to learn; and a very 1st start against a team like Baltimore leading the NFL in sacks at the time can be overwhelming.  The next time DTR started was against Pitt when we had our 3rd string RT and our 2nd string left tackle filling in as starters.  The plan was quicker/shorter passes to keep TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith from getting to him as much as that was possible.  Then people fussed about that game plan which actually BEAT Pittsburgh this time. Keep in mind, DTR is a 5th round pick which was supposed to be watching Watson starting all year.  Cincy has the same thing happening with a very inexperienced Browning starting at QB since Burrow went on IR.

    Hopefully we'll find a groove with whoever we have to go with at QB.  

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Tom Brady only threw 3 passes as an NFL rookie and he only completed 1 of them for 6 yards.  Let's pretend for a second he did that here as a Cleveland Brown prior to hindsight 20/20, the same type of cynics would have been here rooting against him so they could post their "I told you he'd suck" stuff.  

    Sometimes a team has to protect a rookie QB like not letting him start too early on as a rookie (Ie: Tom Brady, Steve McNair, Patrick Mahomes).  Mahomes might have started 1 game or 2 after KC clinched a playoff spot early when Alex Smith was starting. There's a lot to learn; and a very 1st start against a team like Baltimore leading the NFL in sacks at the time can be overwhelming.  The next time DTR started was against Pitt when we had our 3rd string RT and our 2nd string left tackle filling in as starters.  The plan was quicker/shorter passes to keep TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith from getting to him as much as that was possible.  Then people fussed about that game plan which actually BEAT Pittsburgh this time. Keep in mind, DTR is a 5th round pick which was supposed to be watching Watson starting all year.  Cincy has the same thing happening with a very inexperienced Browning starting at QB since Burrow went on IR.

    Hopefully we'll find a groove with whoever we have to go with at QB.  

    I saw the look of death in Flaccos eyes during the second half.. Almost like buyers remorse...

  • @flugel said:

    Tom Brady only threw 3 passes as an NFL rookie and he only completed 1 of them for 6 yards.  Let's pretend for a second he did that here as a Cleveland Brown prior to hindsight 20/20, the same type of cynics would have been here rooting against him so they could post their "I told you he'd suck" stuff.  

    Sometimes a team has to protect a rookie QB like not letting him start too early on as a rookie (Ie: Tom Brady, Steve McNair, Patrick Mahomes).  Mahomes might have started 1 game or 2 after KC clinched a playoff spot early when Alex Smith was starting. There's a lot to learn; and a very 1st start against a team like Baltimore leading the NFL in sacks at the time can be overwhelming.  The next time DTR started was against Pitt when we had our 3rd string RT and our 2nd string left tackle filling in as starters.  The plan was quicker/shorter passes to keep TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith from getting to him as much as that was possible.  Then people fussed about that game plan which actually BEAT Pittsburgh this time. Keep in mind, DTR is a 5th round pick which was supposed to be watching Watson starting all year.  Cincy has the same thing happening with a very inexperienced Browning starting at QB since Burrow went on IR.

    Hopefully we'll find a groove with whoever we have to go with at QB.  

    I saw the look of death in Flaccos eyes during the second half.. Almost like buyers remorse...

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    I saw the look of death in Flaccos eyes during the second half.. Almost like buyers remorse...

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

  • @nickers said:

    I saw the look of death in Flaccos eyes during the second half.. Almost like buyers remorse...

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    Joe has a lot of experience watching garbage QBs take snaps for the browns.

  • @flugel said:

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    Joe has a lot of experience watching garbage QBs take snaps for the browns.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @bbedward said:

    Joe has a lot of experience watching garbage QBs take snaps for the browns.

    Very true!

  • @nickers said:

    I saw the look of death in Flaccos eyes during the second half.. Almost like buyers remorse...

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers

    @flugel said:

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    Yeah , I like Joe's skill set despite the fact he's not what you call 'mobile' And him being a fellow Dago like myself doesn't hurt lol... Although the last Dago we had "Vinneh the Ninneh' was  torture.. He had an uncanny way of throwing it to the wrong colored jersey.. only to find out he was fucking medically color blind.. GAH!!!

  • @flugel said:

    That could have just been his reaction to watching PJ play QB.  We all had the look of where can I bury the memories of this game fast as hell.  I think Joe Flacco-Seagulls is going to be just what the doctor ordered for us.  

    Joe has a lot of experience watching garbage QBs take snaps for the browns.

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by

    @bbedward said:

    Joe has a lot of experience watching garbage QBs take snaps for the browns.

    Don’t we all