Tale of the Tape - Browns @ Rams
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now thats a story for a different day Oh yeah !
Oh yes ! Some very intresting stories on many dates. Some football, poker nights, last calls and late nights until the sun comes up. Late nIghts in Youngstown and Girard, OH (I had an apartment there for about there for abot 5 years) and other cities that end up in breakfasts and then crash in bed ..... and it goes on and on getting up in time for my classes at Youngstown State University
︎ "YSU". And then start over again ......
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ARRGGGHHHH!!!!! Do I dare ask what's the prognosis with Denzel Ward's shoulder? If it wasn't for bad news lately - we wouldn't have any news...
Well no shit. Wards shoulder, Watson’s shoulder and now Myles’ shoulder. Who else but the Browns.
Who do you suppose should shoulder the blame?
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Browns
Player Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Joel Bitonio G Full Participation in Practice Geron Christian T Full Participation in Practice Amari Cooper WR Limited Participation in Practice Jordan Elliott DT Full Participation in Practice Mike Ford CB Full Participation in Practice Myles Garrett DE Full Participation in Practice Marquise Goodwin WR Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out Nick Harris C Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable James Hudson T Not injury related - personal matter Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Kareem Hunt RB Full Participation in Practice David Njoku TE Full Participation in Practice Ogbo Okoronkwo DE Full Participation in Practice Sione Takitaki LB Full Participation in Practice Wyatt Teller G Full Participation in Practice Juan Thornhill S Limited Participation in Practice Dorian Thompson-Robinson QB Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out Anthony Walker LB Limited Participation in Practice Denzel Ward CB Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Out RamsPlayer Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Brian Allen C Did Not Participate In Practice Aaron Donald DT Did Not Participate In Practice Rob Havenstein T Full Participation in Practice Michael Hoecht LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Cooper Kupp WR Full Participation in Practice Quentin Lake S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Larrell Murchison DT Full Participation in Practice Ben Skowronek WR Full Participation in Practice
Denzell being out is bad. We have the #1 pass defense....but a part of that is because of him. (jersey & gloves in the HOF) We'll have to pressure Stafford. He cannot be given time in the pocket. Of, course, if Myles drops out of the game at some point...well...
Goodwin hasn't played in a month...
If DTR is to survive as a QB he's gonna have to get the ball thrown away BEFORE the defender is smashing into him.
Flacco has had less than two weeks with the team...and just a few days taking snaps with the starters. Huh, boy....
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Browns
Player Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Joel Bitonio G Full Participation in Practice Geron Christian T Full Participation in Practice Amari Cooper WR Limited Participation in Practice Jordan Elliott DT Full Participation in Practice Mike Ford CB Full Participation in Practice Myles Garrett DE Full Participation in Practice Marquise Goodwin WR Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out Nick Harris C Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable James Hudson T Not injury related - personal matter Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Kareem Hunt RB Full Participation in Practice David Njoku TE Full Participation in Practice Ogbo Okoronkwo DE Full Participation in Practice Sione Takitaki LB Full Participation in Practice Wyatt Teller G Full Participation in Practice Juan Thornhill S Limited Participation in Practice Dorian Thompson-Robinson QB Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Out Anthony Walker LB Limited Participation in Practice Denzel Ward CB Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Out RamsPlayer Position Injuries Practice Status Game Status Brian Allen C Did Not Participate In Practice Aaron Donald DT Did Not Participate In Practice Rob Havenstein T Full Participation in Practice Michael Hoecht LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Cooper Kupp WR Full Participation in Practice Quentin Lake S Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out Larrell Murchison DT Full Participation in Practice Ben Skowronek WR Full Participation in Practice
Denzell being out is bad. We have the #1 pass defense....but a part of that is because of him. (jersey & gloves in the HOF) We'll have to pressure Stafford. He cannot be given time in the pocket. Of, course, if Myles drops out of the game at some point...well...
Goodwin hasn't played in a month...
If DTR is to survive as a QB he's gonna have to get the ball thrown away BEFORE the defender is smashing into him.
Flacco has had less than two weeks with the team...and just a few days taking snaps with the starters. Huh, boy....
Flacco has had less than two weeks with the team...and just a few days taking snaps with the starters. Huh, boy....
Maybe this will finally convince Stefanski to: Run. The. Damn. Ball!?!
Nah, probably not...
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Maybe this will finally convince Stefanski to: Run. The. Damn. Ball!?!
Nah, probably not...
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Cleveland 33.4 2 Baltimore 32.5 3 Atlanta 32.0 4 Philadelphia 31.7 5 Chicago 31.3 6 San Francisco 30.5 7 Detroit 29.8 8 Jacksonville 29.1 9 Indianapolis 28.5 10 Dallas 28.4 -
Maybe this will finally convince Stefanski to: Run. The. Damn. Ball!?!
Nah, probably not...
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Cleveland 33.4 2 Baltimore 32.5 3 Atlanta 32.0 4 Philadelphia 31.7 5 Chicago 31.3 6 San Francisco 30.5 7 Detroit 29.8 8 Jacksonville 29.1 9 Indianapolis 28.5 10 Dallas 28.4 1
Cleveland 33.4
Who needs facts when I can just shout stuff at the TV?!
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Cleveland 33.4
Who needs facts when I can just shout stuff at the TV?!
Who needs facts when I can just shout stuff at the TV?!
I think Stefanski gets a lot of nonsense yelled at him regarding the run game in general, I don't know how often I've read Browns fans say "THEY NEED TO GIVE NICK CHUBB THE BALL MORE!" when he's always at the top of rushing attempts.
But a complaint that has merit is sometimes the timing of when he runs and doesn't. That complaint I totally get. There are games where we fall behind by one score and all the sudden Stefanski turns into "RUN AND SHOOT KEVIN!".
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So, I'll look at some of postgame numbers...or lack thereof. Myles did not register a stat in the game. You'll have to find the snap count somewhere as the closest thing to a stat for him.
Flacco completed only 52% of his passes. But that guy threw a ton of balls away. The battery in his internal clock is still working fine. He looks for his target(s), if there's nothing, he might throw over the head of the longest receiver, (INT excluded) essentially throwing it away and praying for a PI call. Or He throws it out of bounds. He's not interested in his completion percentage. He's interested in doing the best thing he can with that football for that particular play.
Flacco was under center quite a bit. I LIKE THAT! We don't do that anymore...but Flacco doesn't come from 'anymore'...he comes from 'back when'. He did a masterful job with the play action. Textbook technique.
That man played like a pro!
Back to numbers......the Rams ran the ball 2 more times than we did. The Rams outgained us in total yards by that one 70+ yard TD pass.
Both teams had 20 first downs
We had the ball for 8 more minutes than the Rams.
The INT hurt a lot...not so much because it was an INT, but because the guy ran it back so far. It could've been like a punt...but instead it was like a 3 yard run and a fumble.
We missed Ward. We will be needing him back for Trevor Lawrence. - Some of our DB's are slow. They can't catch guys with the ball and tackle them. They just chase and hope the guy drops the ball. - We need to continue drafting DB's.
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So, I'll look at some of postgame numbers...or lack thereof. Myles did not register a stat in the game. You'll have to find the snap count somewhere as the closest thing to a stat for him.
Flacco completed only 52% of his passes. But that guy threw a ton of balls away. The battery in his internal clock is still working fine. He looks for his target(s), if there's nothing, he might throw over the head of the longest receiver, (INT excluded) essentially throwing it away and praying for a PI call. Or He throws it out of bounds. He's not interested in his completion percentage. He's interested in doing the best thing he can with that football for that particular play.
Flacco was under center quite a bit. I LIKE THAT! We don't do that anymore...but Flacco doesn't come from 'anymore'...he comes from 'back when'. He did a masterful job with the play action. Textbook technique.
That man played like a pro!
Back to numbers......the Rams ran the ball 2 more times than we did. The Rams outgained us in total yards by that one 70+ yard TD pass.
Both teams had 20 first downs
We had the ball for 8 more minutes than the Rams.
The INT hurt a lot...not so much because it was an INT, but because the guy ran it back so far. It could've been like a punt...but instead it was like a 3 yard run and a fumble.
We missed Ward. We will be needing him back for Trevor Lawrence. - Some of our DB's are slow. They can't catch guys with the ball and tackle them. They just chase and hope the guy drops the ball. - We need to continue drafting DB's.
So, I'll look at some of postgame numbers...or lack thereof. Myles did not register a stat in the game. You'll have to find the snap count somewhere as the closest thing to a stat for him.
Flacco completed only 52% of his passes. But that guy threw a ton of balls away. The battery in his internal clock is still working fine. He looks for his target(s), if there's nothing, he might throw over the head of the longest receiver, (INT excluded) essentially throwing it away and praying for a PI call. Or He throws it out of bounds. He's not interested in his completion percentage. He's interested in doing the best thing he can with that football for that particular play.
Flacco was under center quite a bit. I LIKE THAT! We don't do that anymore...but Flacco doesn't come from 'anymore'...he comes from 'back when'. He did a masterful job with the play action. Textbook technique.
That man played like a pro!
Back to numbers......the Rams ran the ball 2 more times than we did. The Rams outgained us in total yards by that one 70+ yard TD pass.
Both teams had 20 first downs
We had the ball for 8 more minutes than the Rams.
The INT hurt a lot...not so much because it was an INT, but because the guy ran it back so far. It could've been like a punt...but instead it was like a 3 yard run and a fumble.
We missed Ward. We will be needing him back for Trevor Lawrence. - Some of our DB's are slow. They can't catch guys with the ball and tackle them. They just chase and hope the guy drops the ball. - We need to continue drafting DB's.
Yes on all of your ramblings.
It's crazy how the Rams, and to a degree Denver exploited a weakness on the Browns' D. Quick-hitting plays to the edges are killing us.
The Browns have done a good job finding DBs in general the last several years, but when they only have 2 LBs on the field, it's a disaster with tackling. It seemed to me Stafford (& Wilson) checked out of many plays to exploit this weakness.
With Garrett & Ward out/limited, the D is very ordinary. Schwartz has done a great job in general, but he's got to figure out this large hole quick.
My own personal opinion is our LBs aren't great either. Takitaki makes a splash play or 2 once in a while, Walker is decent, not great, & JOK is the best, basically a hustle/smart player, but he cannot do it all.
Maybe the modern day NFL doesn't allow the stud LB guys we loved/loved to hate like Lawrence Taylor, Ray Lewis, Urlacher, etc due to the 4 & 5 WR sets. But I'd sure like to see one like that in Cleveland.
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