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Once again, There was NEVER A STATE of PALESTINE

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    it's true.

    the false narratives are just a fake rallying cry for terrorists.

    https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/12/11/there-never-has-been-a-state-of-palestine-n2167430

    There Never Has Been a State of Palestine

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    If there is one issue in world politics on which opinions are held most strongly while being least informed it is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Vast numbers of people, almost certainly a majority, believe these falsehoods:

    1. The Palestinians had their country taken away from them by the Jews.
    2. The Israelis expelled the Palestinians.
    3. The Israelis illegally occupy territories that belong to the Palestinians.
    4. The Israelis refuse to negotiate for peace with Palestinian leaders.
    5. Israeli intransigence impeded a peace process that Palestinian leaders pursued in good faith.

    We summarily dismiss points 1 and 2: –

    1. There never was, in all history, a State of Palestine.
    2. There is no evidence that any Arabs were expelled from the State of Israel. There is evidence that in at least one city – Haifa – they were implored to stay. There is also evidence that the Mufti of Jerusalem and Arab leaders urged them to leave before five Arab armies invaded the newly-declared State of Israel, promising them a victory after which the refugees would return to their homes. And there is absolute certainty that hundreds of thousands of Jews were forcibly expelled – stripped of all they possessed – from the Arab states. "
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      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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      from the same link:

      "The claim that the establishment of a Palestine state would end the dispute is also ridiculous. Such a state was on offer in 1948; Israel offered to give up more than 90 per cent of the West Bank for such a state in 2000; and an even more generous offer was subsequently made by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. The Palestinian response was in every case war and terror. Yet all this is ignored, and Netanyahu is blamed instead for the impasse."

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        Don't try that in a Real American town:

        we have our 2nd Amendment. and it will always BE our 2nd Amendment.

        A Jihadist's Worst Nightmare: Jews Who Are Armed and Ready

        https://redstate.com/wardclark/2023/12/11/a-jihadists-worst-nightmare-jews-who-are-armed-and-ready-n2167437

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          That comes from the Roman occupation who named the region after the Jews enemies the Philistines. Actually if they are demanding a return of land they should ask for Jordan back.

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            That comes from the Roman occupation who named the region after the Jews enemies the Philistines. Actually if they are demanding a return of land they should ask for Jordan back.

            WSS

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            Robert333R Robert333 wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            That comes from the Roman occupation who named the region after the Jews enemies the Philistines. Actually if they are demanding a return of land they should ask for Jordan back.

            WSS

            Great answer.
            I would just point out that there has never been any indigenous "Palestine" / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the Palestinian Arabs could base any claim on any part of the land, or indeed form any claim to get anything "back". British Mandate Palestine was rule by a foreign imperial power with the name "Palestine" resurrected from Roman times.

            In reality the Palestinian Arabs mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles: 
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            '“ most Arabs in British Mandate Palestine were migrant workers and descendants of the 1832-1947 wave of Arab/Muslim immigration from Egypt, the Sudan, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, North Africa, Bosnia, India, Afghanistan, etc. While the British Mandate encouraged Arab immigration, it blocked Jewish immigration.'
            Extract source:
            http://theettingerreport.com/arab-migration-shaped-palestinian-society/

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            84 of 100 of the highest incidence Palestinian surnames (Palestine region in 2004), had highest incidence outside that region: 
            My extract source document - information source “forebears.io”: 
            “Country Origin of Palestinian Arab Surnames upd.pdf”: 
            https://www.mediafire.com/file/9d115bv6w4z4kzb/Country+Origin+of+Palestinian+Arab+Surnames+upd.pdf/file

            I examined the first 100 of those ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames (from the total of 1,000 ranked surnames), which makes a 10% sample. 
            Of the sample first 100 ranked “Palestinian” Arab surnames: 
            16 surnames had the highest incidence in the "Palestine" region. 

            The remaining 84 “Palestinian” Arab surnames had the highest incidence in countries other than the Palestine region, as follows: 
            35 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Egypt. 
            11 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Iraq. 
            9 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Yemen. 
            7 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Syria. 
            6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Jordan. 
            6 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Pakistan. 
            3 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Nigeria. 
            2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in Sudan. 
            2 ranked surnames had highest incidence in India. 
            1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Tanzania. 
            1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Saudia Arabia. 
            1 ranked surname had highest incidence in Bangladesh. 
            Total 84

             

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