Morning after Nick Saban retires... Belichick walks away from NE
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Re: Schwartz.
Pretty understood, from his time in DET, that he's sort of an asshole. Now, he's closer to 60 than he was in 2010, so maybe he's chilled out a bit and took on an actual leadership role.
In the same theme, the man is closer to 60 now. He might not be interested in taking on a head coaching job at this point.
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Re: Schwartz.
Pretty understood, from his time in DET, that he's sort of an asshole. Now, he's closer to 60 than he was in 2010, so maybe he's chilled out a bit and took on an actual leadership role.
In the same theme, the man is closer to 60 now. He might not be interested in taking on a head coaching job at this point.
Re: Schwartz.
Pretty understood, from his time in DET, that he's sort of an asshole. Now, he's closer to 60 than he was in 2010, so maybe he's chilled out a bit and took on an actual leadership role.
In the same theme, the man is closer to 60 now. He might not be interested in taking on a head coaching job at this point.
In his most recent or second most recent presser he said “as a professional I aspire to reach the highest level of my career” or something when asked about HC interest.
Whatever the exact quote was, it was basically a “yes I’m interested in being a HC again”
But it seems like he hasn’t been as hot of a candidate as some of the other DCs out there - haven’t seen him in any of the interview request news.
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They want Vrabel
Also nobody has asked to interview Schwartz afaik, maybe not that hot of a commodity.
Ravens and Cowboys DC seem to be hot defensive candidates though.
They want Vrabel
Also nobody has asked to interview Schwartz afaik, maybe not that hot of a commodity.
Ravens and Cowboys DC seem to be hot defensive candidates though.
I'll be interested to see where the Patriots go, to be honest. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they go in a completely different way. Kraft is 82 years old and this move, to me, signals trying to get one more shot at glory. Could that be achieved by going the "Patriots way" and hiring Vrabel? Maybe. But part of me thinks if they wanted to keep this Patriots way why not just keep Bill through next season (end of his contract).
I just get this vibe they may try to get that lightning in a bottle coach like McVay or Shanahan.
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My general take was not related to the Patriots.
It was along the lines that 25% of the teams in the League are without a HC. Maybe the Raiders hire Antonio Pierce and take the number down to 7/32.
I do hope Schwartz sticks around and wants to be part of something special, just like Dick LeBeau, and be happy being the DC, or Defensive Head Coach as Terry Pluto called him, for a serious Super Bowl contender for the next decade.
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They want Vrabel
Also nobody has asked to interview Schwartz afaik, maybe not that hot of a commodity.
Ravens and Cowboys DC seem to be hot defensive candidates though.
I'll be interested to see where the Patriots go, to be honest. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they go in a completely different way. Kraft is 82 years old and this move, to me, signals trying to get one more shot at glory. Could that be achieved by going the "Patriots way" and hiring Vrabel? Maybe. But part of me thinks if they wanted to keep this Patriots way why not just keep Bill through next season (end of his contract).
I just get this vibe they may try to get that lightning in a bottle coach like McVay or Shanahan.
I'll be interested to see where the Patriots go, to be honest. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they go in a completely different way. Kraft is 82 years old and this move, to me, signals trying to get one more shot at glory. Could that be achieved by going the "Patriots way" and hiring Vrabel? Maybe. But part of me thinks if they wanted to keep this Patriots way why not just keep Bill through next season (end of his contract).
I just get this vibe they may try to get that lightning in a bottle coach like McVay or Shanahan.
FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
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I'll be interested to see where the Patriots go, to be honest. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they go in a completely different way. Kraft is 82 years old and this move, to me, signals trying to get one more shot at glory. Could that be achieved by going the "Patriots way" and hiring Vrabel? Maybe. But part of me thinks if they wanted to keep this Patriots way why not just keep Bill through next season (end of his contract).
I just get this vibe they may try to get that lightning in a bottle coach like McVay or Shanahan.
FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
I've heard that from others too. Why would Vrabel be the obvious choice? They're moving on from Bill so why go back to one of his pupils using a similar system that got stale. Vrabel just got fired for his team getting worse; and NE has even less talent to work with right now. I don't see the instant bang for the buck others see. I'm not singling you out Larry - I just think NE needs something different.
Ohio State might be the best place for Vrabel. I think Dutch already mentioned Day will start to get real worried if Vrabel becomes available. I couldn't agree more. We'll have to see what happens there.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I'll be interested to see where the Patriots go, to be honest. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they go in a completely different way. Kraft is 82 years old and this move, to me, signals trying to get one more shot at glory. Could that be achieved by going the "Patriots way" and hiring Vrabel? Maybe. But part of me thinks if they wanted to keep this Patriots way why not just keep Bill through next season (end of his contract).
I just get this vibe they may try to get that lightning in a bottle coach like McVay or Shanahan.
FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
I hear you, but I agree with Flugs and I think this sort of makes me feel that way even more. Why pay Bill that much money to not coach to bring in Vrabel, who would likely be in a lot of ways to same as Bill B. in the first place? The timing (one year left) is just very odd to me. Just seems like a situation where they really want to catch fire with a "new" approach.
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FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
I've heard that from others too. Why would Vrabel be the obvious choice? They're moving on from Bill so why go back to one of his pupils using a similar system that got stale. Vrabel just got fired for his team getting worse; and NE has even less talent to work with right now. I don't see the instant bang for the buck others see. I'm not singling you out Larry - I just think NE needs something different.
Ohio State might be the best place for Vrabel. I think Dutch already mentioned Day will start to get real worried if Vrabel becomes available. I couldn't agree more. We'll have to see what happens there.
I've heard that from others too. Why would Vrabel be the obvious choice? They're moving on from Bill so why go back to one of his pupils using a similar system that got stale. Vrabel just got fired for his team getting worse; and NE has even less talent to work with right now. I don't see the instant bang for the buck others see. I'm not singling you out Larry - I just think NE needs something different.
Ohio State might be the best place for Vrabel. I think Dutch already mentioned Day will start to get real worried if Vrabel becomes available. I couldn't agree more. We'll have to see what happens there.
That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I've heard that from others too. Why would Vrabel be the obvious choice? They're moving on from Bill so why go back to one of his pupils using a similar system that got stale. Vrabel just got fired for his team getting worse; and NE has even less talent to work with right now. I don't see the instant bang for the buck others see. I'm not singling you out Larry - I just think NE needs something different.
Ohio State might be the best place for Vrabel. I think Dutch already mentioned Day will start to get real worried if Vrabel becomes available. I couldn't agree more. We'll have to see what happens there.
That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
Sorry.. Vrabel to Ohio State is Buckeye homer talk. I will say with 99.9% certainty Day isn't going anywhere. You heard the exact same sort of crap up North from Meechigan back when Harbaugh couldn't beat OSU, and now since he's won it all, he's a freaking hero up there. ?
Aw, if we don't make the College football playoffs every year, can the coach.
FWIW, Day's contract with Ohio State runs through 2028, to the tune of $9.5 million a year. Not sure if it's all guaranteed, but that's a lot of cash to can him just to bring in Vrabel.
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I've heard that from others too. Why would Vrabel be the obvious choice? They're moving on from Bill so why go back to one of his pupils using a similar system that got stale. Vrabel just got fired for his team getting worse; and NE has even less talent to work with right now. I don't see the instant bang for the buck others see. I'm not singling you out Larry - I just think NE needs something different.
Ohio State might be the best place for Vrabel. I think Dutch already mentioned Day will start to get real worried if Vrabel becomes available. I couldn't agree more. We'll have to see what happens there.
That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
On paper, it makes total sense.
I listen to a podcast with Kirk Barton, who was an All-American OTackle at OSU under Tressel. And he has some real doubts that Vrabel would want to be a HC at the collegiate level. He thinks Vrabel would hate dealing with the new reality that is college football.
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That is largely true. Vrabel is a better fit at The OHIO STATE University rather than New England ..... for the long haul. That's what OSU and NE should be thinking about.
Sorry.. Vrabel to Ohio State is Buckeye homer talk. I will say with 99.9% certainty Day isn't going anywhere. You heard the exact same sort of crap up North from Meechigan back when Harbaugh couldn't beat OSU, and now since he's won it all, he's a freaking hero up there. ?
Aw, if we don't make the College football playoffs every year, can the coach.
FWIW, Day's contract with Ohio State runs through 2028, to the tune of $9.5 million a year. Not sure if it's all guaranteed, but that's a lot of cash to can him just to bring in Vrabel.
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Deep pockets, That's chump change
Only if you have a "deep pockets" alumni. Don't know if it's accurate, but a Google search says OSU's football budget is $70 million. Wonder if that includes coach's salaries?
Besides Day's $9.5 million, four assistant coaches pulled down over $1 million, and nine others weren't living off of food stamps. If the above is correct, that's 25%+ of the football budget.
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Deep pockets, That's chump change
Only if you have a "deep pockets" alumni. Don't know if it's accurate, but a Google search says OSU's football budget is $70 million. Wonder if that includes coach's salaries?
Besides Day's $9.5 million, four assistant coaches pulled down over $1 million, and nine others weren't living off of food stamps. If the above is correct, that's 25%+ of the football budget.
Only if you have a "deep pockets" alumni. Don't know if it's accurate, but a Google search says OSU's football budget is $70 million. Wonder if that includes coach's salaries?
Besides Day's $9.5 million, four assistant coaches pulled down over $1 million, and nine others weren't living off of food stamps. If the above is correct, that's 25%+ of the football budget.
bowl money t.v money and yes alumni money, Fire day and hire Belichek. we can afford him
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Only if you have a "deep pockets" alumni. Don't know if it's accurate, but a Google search says OSU's football budget is $70 million. Wonder if that includes coach's salaries?
Besides Day's $9.5 million, four assistant coaches pulled down over $1 million, and nine others weren't living off of food stamps. If the above is correct, that's 25%+ of the football budget.
bowl money t.v money and yes alumni money, Fire day and hire Belichek. we can afford him
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FWIW, whatever Kraft has to pay Bill for next year's contract (a reported $25 million) that's peanuts to a billionaire.
Vrabel is the obvious choice. Proven commodity, played for the Patriots under Bill. But if Kraft wants another Lombardi before he croaks, I agree with what NFLN just said. The Patriots are in for a rebuild, not something a coach can instantly fix. Even if they manage to land another C J Stroud with their #3 pick, anyone see the Texans as Super Bowl winners this year?
It is the end of an era... Checking... Sean McVay was five years old when Bill became the head coach of the Browns.
I hear you, but I agree with Flugs and I think this sort of makes me feel that way even more. Why pay Bill that much money to not coach to bring in Vrabel, who would likely be in a lot of ways to same as Bill B. in the first place? The timing (one year left) is just very odd to me. Just seems like a situation where they really want to catch fire with a "new" approach.
I hear you, but I agree with Flugs and I think this sort of makes me feel that way even more. Why pay Bill that much money to not coach to bring in Vrabel, who would likely be in a lot of ways to same as Bill B. in the first place? The timing (one year left) is just very odd to me. Just seems like a situation where they really want to catch fire with a "new" approach.
Welp, I was wrong haha. I guess they thought Mayo was too good to let go.
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The patriots way is like a boomer corporation, not surprised they promote from within.
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