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  • @gumby73 said:

    Agreed.. ^^ 

     somewhat hoping the 49'ers lose this weekend

    Klint Kubiak - Pass Game Coordinator, San Francisco 49ers

    Kubiak started his NFL coaching career with the Minnesota Vikings as an offensive quality control coach from 2013 to 2014, where he coached with Stefanksi.

    Gary Kubiak is Klint's father and assisted Stefanski during his full season as offensive coordinator with the Vikings in 2019, while Klint was the quarterbacks coach on that staff.

    He took over as the offensive coordinator for Minnesota in 2021.

    Kubiak, who will be 37 years old in February, now has almost a decade of experience working with offenses, and his past year on the 49ers coaching staff has made him even more intriguing to clubs searching for a new offensive coordinator.

    Note: Interviewed for the Saints Offensive Coordinator job. (Zoom meeting)

    Brian Griese - Quarterbacks Coach, San Francisco 49ers

    While Brian Griese lacks play-calling expertise, the Browns are not looking for a play-caller. The former NFL quarterback worked under Kyle Shanahan for the last two seasons.

    Griese scouted Brock Purdy and helped bring him to San Francisco. Under Griese's watch, Purdy emerged as an MVP candidate in 2023-24.

    Griese will be getting looks as a potential offensive coordinator this hiring cycle.

    Note: Interviewed for the Saints Offensive Coordinator job. (Zoom meeting)

     kinda shocked, more teams haven't done the same   ^ ^ ^ 

    I'd have more interest in meeting with Kubiak.. more offensive background than most we've met with. 

    I might be late with this thought; but if Stefanski doesn't want to be replaced calling the plays - guys like Griese and Kubiak could be a threat to that thought.  Consequently, they are more of a conflict of interest to what Stefanski wants as he holds the decision to who fits his need best.  

    The guy that looks most exciting to me is Houston's QB Coach Jerrod Johnson; but how much did he REALLY have to do for the best QB in the draft?   CJ Stroud was an instant success at Ohio State.  The only growing pains I witnessed there were in his very 1st start for only a couple quarters or so.  

    Seeing names scroll on the NFL Channel/ESPN like Kellen Moore and Brian Johnson makes me wonder if the Warden put hallucinogens in my salad.  There's no way either guy offers an upgrade to Van Pelt.  In fact, the last time Van Pelt called plays for the Browns - they slapped Pittsburgh upside the head in the playoffs with 48 points and a victory at their dump. Biggest difference that day?  Roethlisberger had 5 turnovers while Cheesecakes had 3 TD passes and 0 INTs/turnovers.  In other words, something like that could threaten how much longer Stefanski looks like the guy best fit to call the plays.  

    The OLD Browns used to fire coaches to hurry up and hire guys that weren't upgrades.  I can't help but worry that we're seeing this with the OC position.  To you guys that were here in the mid-late 80s, who did a better job of calling the plays in Lindy Infante's offense here: Infante or his replacement the next year? They kept HIS offense; but the guy trying to call the plays in that system didn't have the background and understanding as to how to attack aggressive zone blitzes/heavy blitz schemes.  Infante made those teams pay with a cement shoe'd/cerebral QB.  He knew what plays to call for every situation, down and distance. He dictated the chess game manipulating the Safeties.  Meanwhile, Brian Brennan led our team with 55 receptions almost exclusively on 3rd going over the middle/exploiting the hook zones left open from blitzing LBers.  The other guy that was an unsung hero on 3rd downs was RB Herman Fontenot with 47 receptions exploiting the flats vacated by blitzing LBers. 1986 was the year this team won 12 games. My favorite saying that season was "if the opponents ain't cryin - we ain't tryin." 

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    @flugel said:

    Jerrod Johnson

    interviewing for pitsburgh oc opening today

  • sydS syd

    @orion said:

    Yes, it kinda' does.  I'm assuming that they really like him.  But Stef is the HC.  He hires his staff.  The OC doesn't hire the HC's staff.  But they can sure discuss people for the offensive coaching positions.  Again I'm assuming that they liked this guy and didn't want to wait around.

    input ? 0 for the o.c ? are we doing things backwards again ?

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    input ? 0 for the o.c ? are we doing things backwards again ?

    Well, that argument can be made.  But I still think that if there's a position coach out there that you've been wanting...and you can get him, then do it...even though you don't have the coordinator yet.

  • @syd said:

    input ? 0 for the o.c ? are we doing things backwards again ?

    Well, that argument can be made.  But I still think that if there's a position coach out there that you've been wanting...and you can get him, then do it...even though you don't have the coordinator yet.

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    Well, that argument can be made.  But I still think that if there's a position coach out there that you've been wanting...and you can get him, then do it...even though you don't have the coordinator yet.

    I agree. 

    There guys being hired have more to do with the offensive concept we wish to attain over any real specifics about the position.  It all points to hiring a coordinator who will fit the new concept.

    Stefanski is the only guy who counts.  If he wants the coach, then we will hire him.

    If we found the coordinator we wanted, he would be on bord by now.  This is looking like the guy we want is still coaching his players in the playoffs.

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

  • @orion said:

    Well, that argument can be made.  But I still think that if there's a position coach out there that you've been wanting...and you can get him, then do it...even though you don't have the coordinator yet.

    I agree. 

    There guys being hired have more to do with the offensive concept we wish to attain over any real specifics about the position.  It all points to hiring a coordinator who will fit the new concept.

    Stefanski is the only guy who counts.  If he wants the coach, then we will hire him.

    If we found the coordinator we wanted, he would be on bord by now.  This is looking like the guy we want is still coaching his players in the playoffs.

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    I agree. 

    There guys being hired have more to do with the offensive concept we wish to attain over any real specifics about the position.  It all points to hiring a coordinator who will fit the new concept.

    Stefanski is the only guy who counts.  If he wants the coach, then we will hire him.

    If we found the coordinator we wanted, he would be on bord by now.  This is looking like the guy we want is still coaching his players in the playoffs.

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

    Makes sense. 

    To a degree, I also think DW has some influence on this. 

  • @orion said:

    Well, that argument can be made.  But I still think that if there's a position coach out there that you've been wanting...and you can get him, then do it...even though you don't have the coordinator yet.

    I agree. 

    There guys being hired have more to do with the offensive concept we wish to attain over any real specifics about the position.  It all points to hiring a coordinator who will fit the new concept.

    Stefanski is the only guy who counts.  If he wants the coach, then we will hire him.

    If we found the coordinator we wanted, he would be on bord by now.  This is looking like the guy we want is still coaching his players in the playoffs.

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

    Klint Kubiak? 

  • @ballpeen said:

    I agree. 

    There guys being hired have more to do with the offensive concept we wish to attain over any real specifics about the position.  It all points to hiring a coordinator who will fit the new concept.

    Stefanski is the only guy who counts.  If he wants the coach, then we will hire him.

    If we found the coordinator we wanted, he would be on bord by now.  This is looking like the guy we want is still coaching his players in the playoffs.

    Kubiac is my odds on favorite  to be offered the position.

    Makes sense. 

    To a degree, I also think DW has some influence on this. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @bob806 said:

    Makes sense. 

    To a degree, I also think DW has some influence on this. 

    Finding someone who is proficient in the spread/RPO offense is paramount. 

    It shouldn't be as difficult as the Browns have seemingly made it the last two seasons, Jesus Tap Dancin' Christ every high school and college in the country runs it. 

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    So, Of this coaching group.... The game plan thinking tanks jobs are safe? 

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    BILL MUSGRAVE    he'd be gone 1st, if it were me 

     
     
     
  • @bob806 said:

    Makes sense. 

    To a degree, I also think DW has some influence on this. 

    Finding someone who is proficient in the spread/RPO offense is paramount. 

    It shouldn't be as difficult as the Browns have seemingly made it the last two seasons, Jesus Tap Dancin' Christ every high school and college in the country runs it. 

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Finding someone who is proficient in the spread/RPO offense is paramount. 

    It shouldn't be as difficult as the Browns have seemingly made it the last two seasons, Jesus Tap Dancin' Christ every high school and college in the country runs it. 

    It looks like they want to start a Tea-Sipper club that also wants to overthink the crap out of what they can do with the QB they invested heavily in.  This will be Watson's 3rd year here already; so by all means - try not to hurry for the return on the investment...

    The 1st name that comes to mind is Greg Roman, who was Jim Harbaugh's OC at SF when they went to the SB with Colin Kaepernick.  Then he was an OC for some winning teams in Baltimore.  He's got about 25 years of experience; which might be something we should tap...

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    @flugel said:

    1A). Greg Norman  1B). Jerrod's John's son

    friends of yours ???

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

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    @orion said:

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    just don't choke again greg

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

  • download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

  • FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

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    I'm not even 60 yet and I'm doing stuff like this Orion...

  • So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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    @orion said:

    So, what will the new OC actually do?  

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.  

    Ya know it was kind of refreshing to see Stef's play calling change as he went from QB to QB throughout the season.  He was able to tailor things to the QB that he had to trot out onto the field that particular week.  And when he got to Flacco the RPO stuff had to go into moth balls.  

    I think whoever it will be - he'll help with the design of the offense from the pass receiving route tree to the running game to the blocking schemes and pass protections.  In saying that, he'll have to identify what Watson has done/does best; and tailor all that into the game plans and plays Stefanski will choose from in every situation.  

    If they add the right guy - he can be extremely helpful!  This is why I like Roman's experience and the style of QBs he worked with.  It's also good to have the OC an ear shot away on game day if he's seeing any mismatches upfront to exploit and/or anything to be aware of with the LBers or Secondary.

  • @gumby73 said:

    download.webp.d4aaa5ea85092eb8b1cae7fee9c15058.webp   Greg Roman.. not Norman  download.jpg.1833dcb1680ecd364cdf32aa40d01e56.jpg

    25 Up/downs Mr. @flugel   BE-gin on the whistle !

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    Thanks Gumbs!    Yeah, he's THAT impressive!

    small stuff makes my day ? 

    Roman makes a lot of sense. I'm not seeing a honest hard nose coach like Roman from that side of the ball. (a Schwartz) If Lamar can take hard/critical coaching? Why not D.Watson ?

    @orion said:

    We have a HC who calls the plays.  He's not going to stop calling the plays.  (HC's that call plays require the play-chart to be pried from their cold dead hands)   IMO, the new OC will be an assistant to the play caller.  And will hopefully bring some fresh ideas to incorporate into Stef's system.

    This offensive coaching staff, started getting weird when Mayfield didn't want a QB coach. So Stef, sent AVP along side Baker on the bench with the windows tablet..  Have we seen anything change since Watson took over the position?  

    Stef's thinking... OC/QB coach ? 

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