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  • @socaldog said:

    End the QB discussions from now on...cuz it don't matter. Unless we fix four main things we won't win a damn game!

    1. The defense: cannot stop a damn thing.

    2. Brian Daboll: does not know how to mix up play calling and use the whole field. Way too many hitch routes and basic run plays. No inventiveness.

    3. We need a RB with speed!!! Jamal is done!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    S SoCalDog wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @oconrecon said:

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    😉

    Agree ...agree....agree..agree

    Imagine what Quinn must think in the huddle. 'Oh, boy.... pass play...here comes Dumervill again."

  • @socaldog said:

    End the QB discussions from now on...cuz it don't matter. Unless we fix four main things we won't win a damn game!

    1. The defense: cannot stop a damn thing.

    2. Brian Daboll: does not know how to mix up play calling and use the whole field. Way too many hitch routes and basic run plays. No inventiveness.

    3. We need a RB with speed!!! Jamal is done!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @oconrecon said:

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

  • @oconrecon said:

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @atenears said:

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

    Have you ever thought part of Quinn's problem is the lack of cohesion on the offense unit? I would be confused looking as well.

  • O osusev wrote on last edited by osusev
    #18

    You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb.....

  • End the QB discussions from now on...cuz it don't matter. Unless we fix four main things we won't win a damn game!

    1. The defense: cannot stop a damn thing.

    2. Brian Daboll: does not know how to mix up play calling and use the whole field. Way too many hitch routes and basic run plays. No inventiveness.

    3. We need a RB with speed!!! Jamal is done!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    ? TheJokersWILD wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @socaldog said:

    End the QB discussions from now on...cuz it don't matter. Unless we fix four main things we won't win a damn game!

    1. The defense: cannot stop a damn thing.

    2. Brian Daboll: does not know how to mix up play calling and use the whole field. Way too many hitch routes and basic run plays. No inventiveness.

    3. We need a RB with speed!!! Jamal is done!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    Right now we can get a monkey out of the Cleveland zoo that can call a better game than this guy. Looks like the Browns will be on the cover of sports illistrated again, this time it will be Knowshon Moreno running over a Browns player

    12.JPG

    If I was the coach, I would make a fathead of this and post it in the lockeroom.

  • You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb.....

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @osusev said:

    You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb.....

    Sorry man, but they didn't crowd the line. They were in zone most of the game. The Browns OL was just beaten.

  • @osusev said:

    You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb.....

    Sorry man, but they didn't crowd the line. They were in zone most of the game. The Browns OL was just beaten.

    O osusev wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @restinpeace said:

    Sorry man, but they didn't crowd the line. They were in zone most of the game. The Browns OL was just beaten.

    are YOU HIGH? WATCH THE REPLAY ON YOUR DVR......

  • @restinpeace said:

    Sorry man, but they didn't crowd the line. They were in zone most of the game. The Browns OL was just beaten.

    are YOU HIGH? WATCH THE REPLAY ON YOUR DVR......

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
    #22

    @osusev said:

    are YOU HIGH? WATCH THE REPLAY ON YOUR DVR......

    Yup, rewatching it now. In a basic zone defense with some blitzes. The Browns offense was a uncohesive wreck this week. Nobody is in the right place. We saw this last week as well, but it was worse this week. Creates confusion, much less than their poor OL.

  • S spisatus wrote on last edited by
    #23

    I'm still trying to figure out, why if we have Quinn, who unlike DA can run, we don't run a few more designed plays to move the pocket. I would have like to see a bootleg by Quinn with the option to run, this would at least make use of his strength. There just doesn't seem to be anything original in the play calling. I didn't get to see Quinn play college ball but from what I can find on line he would throw and complete the mid/long range ball which makes me believe that there just isn't anyone getting open. Now I still don't understand the throwing for a 3 yard gain when we need 10.

  • JRex223J JRex223 wrote on last edited by
    #24

    You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb...

    ---------------------------------------------

    Get em' Osusev!!! Your'e exactly right!...I'm not saying we still wouldn't suck, but Bradys only hurting us.

  • @oconrecon said:

    I beg to differ.

    1. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    2. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    3. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    4. CUT ST. CLAIR NOW!!!!!

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @atenears said:

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

    I'll agree after watching DA step back and fire (come hell or high water), it looks like Quinn is taking forever even when he does get time.

    Add no running game, no playmakers, etc. and I don't know where to start. Agee though, we Browns fans have sung the "no talent around the QB" song since Tim Couch. I can't sing it no more. Need someone to step forward and take the lead, and usually that's the QB.

  • I'm still trying to figure out, why if we have Quinn, who unlike DA can run, we don't run a few more designed plays to move the pocket. I would have like to see a bootleg by Quinn with the option to run, this would at least make use of his strength. There just doesn't seem to be anything original in the play calling. I didn't get to see Quinn play college ball but from what I can find on line he would throw and complete the mid/long range ball which makes me believe that there just isn't anyone getting open. Now I still don't understand the throwing for a 3 yard gain when we need 10.

    N NebBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @spisatus said:

    I'm still trying to figure out, why if we have Quinn, who unlike DA can run, we don't run a few more designed plays to move the pocket. I would have like to see a bootleg by Quinn with the option to run, this would at least make use of his strength. There just doesn't seem to be anything original in the play calling. I didn't get to see Quinn play college ball but from what I can find on line he would throw and complete the mid/long range ball which makes me believe that there just isn't anyone getting open. Now I still don't understand the throwing for a 3 yard gain when we need 10.

    Because Daboll's playcalling is as predictable and poor as Carthon's or Chud's.

  • @atenears said:

    That's fine, leave St. Clair in Denver ... but Brady Quinn acted like he had no idea that the Bronco's were going to pin back their ears on 3rd long with his back to end zone (2nd and long for that matter).

    Quinn just really looks clueless, it sure don't help the o-line and vice-versa.

    to tell you the truth, We probably provided better protection to start that game as I have seen in the new era, and we still couldn't move the chains.

    Run blocking wise, we suck, plus our RB's miss holes left and right and per timing.

    I'll agree after watching DA step back and fire (come hell or high water), it looks like Quinn is taking forever even when he does get time.

    Add no running game, no playmakers, etc. and I don't know where to start. Agee though, we Browns fans have sung the "no talent around the QB" song since Tim Couch. I can't sing it no more. Need someone to step forward and take the lead, and usually that's the QB.

    N NebBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @oconrecon said:

    I'll agree after watching DA step back and fire (come hell or high water), it looks like Quinn is taking forever even when he does get time.

    Add no running game, no playmakers, etc. and I don't know where to start. Agee though, we Browns fans have sung the "no talent around the QB" song since Tim Couch. I can't sing it no more. Need someone to step forward and take the lead, and usually that's the QB.

    Ocon, it almost seems like the opposite of the Minn game when people said he was checking down too quick. Seems like he was trying too hard not to and ended up holding it too long and taking sacks.

  • You Quinn Backers are INSANE!!!!

    Last year AFTER THE DENVER GAME... TEAMS PLAYED TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK PASSES AND FORCING HIM TO READ AND THROW MID TO LONG...

    That has the EFFECT OF PUTTING MORE DEFENDERS IN CLOSE TOO STOP THE RUN.....

    The last two games of his last year and this year its the same..... HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ARM STRENGTH AND ACCURACY MID TO LONG AND HE KNOWS IT WHICH IS WHY HE CHECKS DOWN CONSTANTLY OR GETS SACKED.

    The offense is DEAD BECAUSE OF QUINN AND HOW TEAMS GAME PLAN AGAINST US MAKING US ONE DIMENSIONAL.

    WATCH YOUR DVR AND SEE HOW THEY JAM THE LINE AND PLAY TIGHT ALSO HAVING LBS IN TIGHT TO TAKE AWAY HIS QUICK SLANTS AND PASSES...

    The defense played THE SAME AGAIN THIS WEEK..... They played tough in the first half but in the third and fourth GOT WORE DOWN BECAUSE OUR NOODLE ARM QB CANT SUSTAIN A DRIVE TIRING OUT THE DEFENSE.

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb...

    ---------------------------------------------

    Get em' Osusev!!! Your'e exactly right!...I'm not saying we still wouldn't suck, but Bradys only hurting us.

    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by OconRecon
    #28

    @jrex223 said:

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb...

    We believe the next guy deserved a chance. No one said Quinn is a guaranteed winner.

    Only Weis said NFL ready.

    And I believe it's 3 years of rust. The clipboard theory is crap. There's only one way to get better at playing QB and that's the actually play QB.

    There's not 1 fan on this board who is happy with the team at this point. Quinn's play isn't helping.

  • @oconrecon said:

    I'll agree after watching DA step back and fire (come hell or high water), it looks like Quinn is taking forever even when he does get time.

    Add no running game, no playmakers, etc. and I don't know where to start. Agee though, we Browns fans have sung the "no talent around the QB" song since Tim Couch. I can't sing it no more. Need someone to step forward and take the lead, and usually that's the QB.

    Ocon, it almost seems like the opposite of the Minn game when people said he was checking down too quick. Seems like he was trying too hard not to and ended up holding it too long and taking sacks.

    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    Ocon, it almost seems like the opposite of the Minn game when people said he was checking down too quick. Seems like he was trying too hard not to and ended up holding it too long and taking sacks.

    Hmm. That's true.

    One thing we can all agree on, the whole system is just not clicking. It's not like everything is smooth, if only Quinn could complete a pass.

  • @jrex223 said:

    JUST ADMIT IT YOU QUINN JUNKIES THIS IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR "NFL READY/WEIS/ND COACHED" 3 YEARS IN PREPARATION qb...

    We believe the next guy deserved a chance. No one said Quinn is a guaranteed winner.

    Only Weis said NFL ready.

    And I believe it's 3 years of rust. The clipboard theory is crap. There's only one way to get better at playing QB and that's the actually play QB.

    There's not 1 fan on this board who is happy with the team at this point. Quinn's play isn't helping.

    K kbndawg wrote on last edited by
    #30

    @oconrecon said:

    We believe the next guy deserved a chance. No one said Quinn is guaranteed winner.

    Only Weis said NFL ready.

    And I believe it's 3 years of rust. The clipboard theory is crap. There's only one way to get better at playing QB and that's the actually play QB.

    There's not 1 fan on this board who is happy with the team at this point. Quinn's play isn't helping.

    All i know is.......we have a guy on the bench that has won 10 games in ONE season.........we have a guy that is the starting QB who has done nothing but capture the hearts of the Browns fans.

  • @oconrecon said:

    We believe the next guy deserved a chance. No one said Quinn is guaranteed winner.

    Only Weis said NFL ready.

    And I believe it's 3 years of rust. The clipboard theory is crap. There's only one way to get better at playing QB and that's the actually play QB.

    There's not 1 fan on this board who is happy with the team at this point. Quinn's play isn't helping.

    All i know is.......we have a guy on the bench that has won 10 games in ONE season.........we have a guy that is the starting QB who has done nothing but capture the hearts of the Browns fans.

    N NebBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #31

    @kbndawg said:

    All i know is.......we have a guy on the bench that has won 10 games in ONE season.........we have a guy that is the starting QB who has done nothing but capture the hearts of the Browns fans.

    Yeah, but what happened in 2007 has no bearing as was shown in 2008.

  • @kbndawg said:

    All i know is.......we have a guy on the bench that has won 10 games in ONE season.........we have a guy that is the starting QB who has done nothing but capture the hearts of the Browns fans.

    Yeah, but what happened in 2007 has no bearing as was shown in 2008.

    K kbndawg wrote on last edited by
    #32

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    Yeah, but what happened in 2007 has no bearing as was shown in 2008.

    IF Anderson was 0-2 this year you would be going nuts.............but it's Quinn and he gets a pass. Fact is.......Quinn looks no better then Anderson.

  • @nebbrownsfan said:

    Yeah, but what happened in 2007 has no bearing as was shown in 2008.

    IF Anderson was 0-2 this year you would be going nuts.............but it's Quinn and he gets a pass. Fact is.......Quinn looks no better then Anderson.

    N NebBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #33

    @kbndawg said:

    IF Anderson was 0-2 this year you would be going nuts.............but it's Quinn and he gets a pass. Fact is.......Quinn looks no better then Anderson.

    Might have something to do with the number of starts DA has without showing ANY progress in his skills as compared to the number of starts Quinn has, ya think?

  • @kbndawg said:

    IF Anderson was 0-2 this year you would be going nuts.............but it's Quinn and he gets a pass. Fact is.......Quinn looks no better then Anderson.

    Might have something to do with the number of starts DA has without showing ANY progress in his skills as compared to the number of starts Quinn has, ya think?

    K kbndawg wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    Might have something to do with the number of starts DA has without showing ANY progress in his skills as compared to the number of starts Quinn has, ya think?

    No, actually i don't. Hey, Anderson has a BIG downside to his game.....can't argue with that. But, you have to stop with the "limited starts" argument. There are a few Qb's in the NFL that have put that myth to rest. I'm not saying that Anderson is the almighty but for chrissake stop claiming that Quinn is.