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  • Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    Not impressed with him or Milroe.  I like Beck but he needs some work still.  Ward seems to come through when the game really needs him to.  I like his composure.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    They’ll be divorced within 3 years…

    They have decent wifi, I've got YouTube TV.  They also have a poker table.  

    Life.... Finds a way. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    They have decent wifi, I've got YouTube TV.  They also have a poker table.  

    Life.... Finds a way. 

    They’re trying too hard. My statement stands. In 3 years let us know the det’s. 

  • Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    Manning looked like crap also vs their D

  • Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    It can’t be easy. There’s cirrus, and cumulonimbus, and other clouds. Sometimes clouds look like unicorns. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Scratch Ewers off.  Kid can't read cloud on a straight drop. 

    It can’t be easy. There’s cirrus, and cumulonimbus, and other clouds. Sometimes clouds look like unicorns. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    It can’t be easy. There’s cirrus, and cumulonimbus, and other clouds. Sometimes clouds look like unicorns. 

    "So many things I would've have done, but clouds got in my way"-Joni Mitchell

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    It can’t be easy. There’s cirrus, and cumulonimbus, and other clouds. Sometimes clouds look like unicorns. 

    "So many things I would've have done, but clouds got in my way"-Joni Mitchell

    @texasag1969 said:

    "So many things I would've have done, but clouds got in my way"-Joni Mitchell

    I hate to digress... But Joni Mitchell... Is one of the great writers of our time... Her impeccable ear for procuring top notch musicians for her songs, Records and her bands speaks volumes for her own great musicality.... Her genius is simplistically beautiful.. She's held court with the finest Jaco Pastorius,Pat Metheny... Michael Landau... And a gazillion other songwriters and musicians... And even yet at this stage in life... Her genius still knows no bounds...

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    It can’t be easy. There’s cirrus, and cumulonimbus, and other clouds. Sometimes clouds look like unicorns. 

    "So many things I would've have done, but clouds got in my way"-Joni Mitchell

    @texasag1969 said:

    -Joni Mitchell

    Absolutely love her stuff.  Turbulent Indigo is my favorite....even though Blue gets all of the raves from the critics.

    SOOoo.  The Rams & Jaguars have been ousted from the 1 win club.  There's just 4 of us now.  

  • I predict that Detroit could help us out this week.  At 5-1 with the 1-6 Titans coming up...I smell a let down week for the Lions.  

  • @jrb12711 said:

    It honestly does, as much as it sucks to say. Probably more likely to trade Zadarius Smith (in general), but to be honest I think it's time to start taking calls on all members of this roster.

    And Berry cannot stay around for the rebuild.

    And I'm not saying he should be fired for poor drafts, or the Watson deal blowing up in his face either, even if both reasons are incredibly valid. Berry cannot remain GM of this team because this team needs a complete rebuild. It is the second oldest team in the NFL.

    If he somehow survives this season, he knows his seat is scalding hot. So is he going to make the moves that in the long-term would be best for the Browns? No. He's going to make the moves that improve the team the quickest. 

    And that's what Butch Davis did when he felt he had to do something bold NOW to save his job with the Browns, and drafted Kellen Winslow II over Ben Roethlisberger. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And Berry cannot stay around for the rebuild.

    And I'm not saying he should be fired for poor drafts, or the Watson deal blowing up in his face either, even if both reasons are incredibly valid. Berry cannot remain GM of this team because this team needs a complete rebuild. It is the second oldest team in the NFL.

    If he somehow survives this season, he knows his seat is scalding hot. So is he going to make the moves that in the long-term would be best for the Browns? No. He's going to make the moves that improve the team the quickest. 

    And that's what Butch Davis did when he felt he had to do something bold NOW to save his job with the Browns, and drafted Kellen Winslow II over Ben Roethlisberger. 

    We live in a results now society.  Who in here wants a slow turn around?

    It all boils down to one thing. The Watson situation was a BIG swing and miss.  The bad thing is nobody saw this.  This wasn't a part of the discussion when the deal was first put together.   There were people who didn't like it because of the off field stuff but nobody saw this.

    We weren't the only team seeking Watsons services. There were many, and all are breathing a sigh of relief today.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And Berry cannot stay around for the rebuild.

    And I'm not saying he should be fired for poor drafts, or the Watson deal blowing up in his face either, even if both reasons are incredibly valid. Berry cannot remain GM of this team because this team needs a complete rebuild. It is the second oldest team in the NFL.

    If he somehow survives this season, he knows his seat is scalding hot. So is he going to make the moves that in the long-term would be best for the Browns? No. He's going to make the moves that improve the team the quickest. 

    And that's what Butch Davis did when he felt he had to do something bold NOW to save his job with the Browns, and drafted Kellen Winslow II over Ben Roethlisberger. 

    We live in a results now society.  Who in here wants a slow turn around?

    It all boils down to one thing. The Watson situation was a BIG swing and miss.  The bad thing is nobody saw this.  This wasn't a part of the discussion when the deal was first put together.   There were people who didn't like it because of the off field stuff but nobody saw this.

    We weren't the only team seeking Watsons services. There were many, and all are breathing a sigh of relief today.

    @ballpeen said:

    nobody saw this.

    We weren't the only team seeking Watsons services

    What was seen was the Rams trading away Goff to get Stafford and win the super bowl.  And the rest of the pieces were in place for us to win a SB.  And there were no QB's in the upcoming draft. [ fight the urge to mention Mayfield ]   And as we recall, Watson was originally given a 6 game suspension by the NEWLY APPOINTED 'smart person' who was to handle suspensions going forward.  But of course, since it's the Browns, Roger GoToHell had to step in and whack us harder.  -  And we know the rest.  Three years of a suspension or a season ending injury.

    At this point in time we do not know what Haslem and his henchmen will do. 

    Are they committed to Watson and will await his rehab?  After all, is OLine was a shambles...they couldn't pass protect or block for the RB's.  Even so Watson's number improved each and every game until he got hurt (including the game he got hurt).  And through that mess he threw only 3 INT's.  And that counts a pass that hit Cooper in the chest and THEN was intercepted. 

    Have they seen enough of Watson to decide that he's not as proficient a QB as they thought he was?  Coupled with the fact that he can't stay on the field...that he can no longer be considered the future QB of this team?

    With the play calling being given to Ken Dorsey, is Haslem planning on succumbing to his trigger finger and making everything new and improved again?  New QB, HC, GM, etc.?

    It's hard to know which timeline we'll be on come January...

  • Well we sure screwed up our picking spot good.???

  • Well we sure screwed up our picking spot good.???

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well we sure screwed up our picking spot good.???

    Nine games to go...

    Plenty of time to sink down again! ?

  • So this week we have the 1-7 Panthers playing the 2-6 Saints while the 2-6 Patriots play the 1-6 Titans.  All teams that are tied or ahead of us in the race for the #1 pick.  Two of 'em will get a win.  

  • So this week we have the 1-7 Panthers playing the 2-6 Saints while the 2-6 Patriots play the 1-6 Titans.  All teams that are tied or ahead of us in the race for the #1 pick.  Two of 'em will get a win.  

    @orion said:

    So this week we have the 1-7 Panthers playing the 2-6 Saints while the 2-6 Patriots play the 1-6 Titans.  All teams that are tied or ahead of us in the race for the #1 pick.  Two of 'em will get a win.  

    And now we are tied with all of them since both Panthers and Titans won their games.?

  • @orion said:

    So this week we have the 1-7 Panthers playing the 2-6 Saints while the 2-6 Patriots play the 1-6 Titans.  All teams that are tied or ahead of us in the race for the #1 pick.  Two of 'em will get a win.  

    And now we are tied with all of them since both Panthers and Titans won their games.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And now we are tied with all of them since both Panthers and Titans won their games.?

    Add to all those the Giants, Dolphins and Raiders - all with 2 wins. Currently no team with less than 2 wins.

  • Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

  • Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

    We have Jimmuh Truck-Stop Haslem as owner.  The Make Everything New & Improved guy.  He loves the Glitz, the Attention Grabber, the Big Time.  

    So, of the 3...Cam Ward...draft picks of offensive linemen, or Deon Sanders' son....which option do we think he'd take?  He's the guy that had to have Johnny Football....even though Bill Parcells told him, 'Whatever you do, just don't draft Manziel'.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

    We have Jimmuh Truck-Stop Haslem as owner.  The Make Everything New & Improved guy.  He loves the Glitz, the Attention Grabber, the Big Time.  

    So, of the 3...Cam Ward...draft picks of offensive linemen, or Deon Sanders' son....which option do we think he'd take?  He's the guy that had to have Johnny Football....even though Bill Parcells told him, 'Whatever you do, just don't draft Manziel'.  

    @orion said:

    We have Jimmuh Truck-Stop Haslem as owner.  The Make Everything New & Improved guy.  He loves the Glitz, the Attention Grabber, the Big Time.  

    So, of the 3...Cam Ward...draft picks of offensive linemen, or Deon Sanders' son....which option do we think he'd take?  He's the guy that had to have Johnny Football....even though Bill Parcells told him, 'Whatever you do, just don't draft Manziel'.  

    That's terrifying!

  • Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Hope for the Browns to get a high enough pick for a QB like Sanders or Cam Ward - two QBs I don't want the Browns to draft - and let some team give us a nice booty of picks. 

    Replenish the roster this coming draft, draft the QB next draft. 

    I’m leaning this way too.  But I need hope for 2025…maybe a “washed up” playaction savvy vet that Stefanski can clean up?  We can dumpster dive hopefully. If you wait to 2026 you can basically punt until 2027 but maybe we hit gold like the Commanders did. 
     

    If we don’t take a QB this draft cycle let’s go ham on the OL and DL

  • I've seen reports that we could have as many as 5 picks in the 6th round...including compensatory picks. (or four 6ths and a 7th)   That's an awful lot of practice squad guys.  I'd hope that some of those would become part of packages for trades to move around the draft board.  -  Aside from finally having a 1st round pick, we'll have a 2nd and two 3rd round picks.....and a 4th & 5th, though the 5th is from Detroit and will be late in the round...practically another 6th rounder.  That's a lot of picks.  I don't see us drafting that many guys.