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  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
    #88

    Don Shula was the master at seeing the systems in place met the skill set of the players.

    When he had Unitas in Baltimore, the O centered around Unitas.  Then at Miami it centered around his trio of great backs, then went back to the passing attack when Marino entered the building.

    Players don't have much flexibility when it comes to what they do well and don't do well.  The smart coach does. It's a matter of expanding ones knowledge or aligning with a coach who does. That doesn't rely on a physical skill which in most cases is a either you have it or you don't situation.  A coach can't tell a receiver he needs to knock a half second off his 40 time or his LT needs to lengthen his arms a few inches in the off season.

    The Dorsey deal didn't work, mostly because it was a hastily arraigned marriage. I think the union between Stefanski and Rees will work because there is already a working relationship between the two.

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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  • FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

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    Rosenhaus: Now remember Abdul - we're not going to let them know you need surgery until after we get that hot signing bonus.

    Carter: Say what?

    Rosenhaus:  No. Say nothing.

    CD, all kidding aside - the 1st 4 picks are going to be very interesting...  

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

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    and on a side note. Kirk Cousins was having lunch in Avon

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    @canton-dawg said:

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    and on a side note. Kirk Cousins was having lunch in Avon

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    and on a side note. Kirk Cousins was having lunch in Avon

    ...with a realtor...about buying a house...

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
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    @canton-dawg said:

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    Garrett and Carter would be a major problem for an offensive team coming into our loud stadium. 
     

    I recall hearing about Carter’s injury leading into the Notre Dame game (sack and two TFLs) in that game and seemed his usual disruptive self. 
     

    I think he brings a lot of versatility not just blitzing off the edge in the third down but dropping back into coverage.  Definitely not a liability either breaking down and making tackles even though he’s a mad man off the edge. 
     

    He’d be my pick but I think our pick is Travis Hunter - the nerds in the front office will like him and the coaching staff will utilize him on both sides of the ball

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

  • So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    what do we infer ? hopefully we concur that jimmah needs to stay the hell away from our team

  • So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    It's a fake out. They'll take Ward. Ya know JH loves them QB's.?

  • So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    The Assistant GM was the only one in the FO that got to see a healthy #2 overall prospect participate in the Pro Day.

    Or, the answer you want to see (and it could be right) - Cam Ward just isn't their guy.  

  • @orion said:

    So, what do we infer from the Browns sending a bunch of brass, including Jimmuh, to Carter's pro day, including having dinner together, and only one person, assistant GM, going to Ward's pro day?

    The Assistant GM was the only one in the FO that got to see a healthy #2 overall prospect participate in the Pro Day.

    Or, the answer you want to see (and it could be right) - Cam Ward just isn't their guy.  

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @flugel said:

    The Assistant GM was the only one in the FO that got to see a healthy #2 overall prospect participate in the Pro Day.

    Or, the answer you want to see (and it could be right) - Cam Ward just isn't their guy.  

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0 Except his feet are stuck in buckets of mud! I think him and Ward will get eaten alive in the NFL... Wards release looks slower than water dripping out of a spigot!

  • @flugel said:

    The Assistant GM was the only one in the FO that got to see a healthy #2 overall prospect participate in the Pro Day.

    Or, the answer you want to see (and it could be right) - Cam Ward just isn't their guy.  

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0 Except his feet are stuck in buckets of mud! I think him and Ward will get eaten alive in the NFL... Wards release looks slower than water dripping out of a spigot!

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0

    I have also compared him to Tyrod in that he doesn't throw receivers open but rather waits for them to 'be' open.  

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    toudch  be im sick

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    toudch  be im sick

    M Marvin the Martian wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    toudch  be im sick

    Why?

    Don't you have full confidence in the front office who engineered that brilliant trade for Watkins?  What could possibly go wrong?

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    fuck man i kind of forgot

  • @flugel said:

    The Assistant GM was the only one in the FO that got to see a healthy #2 overall prospect participate in the Pro Day.

    Or, the answer you want to see (and it could be right) - Cam Ward just isn't their guy.  

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0 Except his feet are stuck in buckets of mud! I think him and Ward will get eaten alive in the NFL... Wards release looks slower than water dripping out of a spigot!

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @nickers said:

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0 Except his feet are stuck in buckets of mud! I think him and Ward will get eaten alive in the NFL... Wards release looks slower than water dripping out of a spigot!

    Interesting!  I didn't watch 1 Colorado game last year; and I only saw Ward play against Syracuse.  One of the weaknesses written about Sanders in Lindy's Draft Mag was he takes way too many sacks.  That Tyrod analogy you and Orion have made sees the same thing.  

    We all remember seeing Kosar where/when it looked like he was wearing 100 lb cleats when he tried to move. What completely nullified that was how quickly he processed information beginning pre-snap. He went Evelyn Woodhead with the progression reads to the Quick release - which not only kept him accurate but helped him throw less INTs than most starting QBs (and at a less frequency than he threw in college at the U).  Lindy Infante came here in 86 and improved Bernie's passing drastically.  Having the right coaches in place make a huge difference to the extent the Browns went from 8-8 relying on Byner & Mack to both exceed 1000 yards rushing in 85 (Bernie's rookie year) to empowering Bernie to let er rip.  All those handoffs in 85 turned into more short passes and ball control to the extent a backup RB (Herman Fontenot caught 47 passes almost exclusively on 3rd downs) while Infante loved dictating to teams chomping the buts to blitz Kosar. Brian Brennan led this team in receptions with 55 (almost exclusively on 3rd downs over the middle knowing when to sit on a route and continue on to the next hook zone).  They loved those vacated zones from the blitz. Infante also loved to challenge all the grey area between the flats and the hook zones with his RBs.  

  • @nickers said:

    And to me.. Shedeur Sanders looks like Tyrod Taylor 2.0

    I have also compared him to Tyrod in that he doesn't throw receivers open but rather waits for them to 'be' open.  

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @orion said:

    I have also compared him to Tyrod in that he doesn't throw receivers open but rather waits for them to 'be' open.  

    Can you imagine how much fun that would be with all our Tackles on the NFL version of disability again?  What could go wrong?

    Maybe our new LT Cornelius Lucas changes all the bad karma.  That said, I still think if there's a top tier LT at #33 -it's time to stop screwing around with the blind side tackle spot - especially when we're talking about protecting someone that will be considered to be a franchise QB if they select one at #2 overall.  JMO.

  • @orion said:

    I have also compared him to Tyrod in that he doesn't throw receivers open but rather waits for them to 'be' open.  

    Can you imagine how much fun that would be with all our Tackles on the NFL version of disability again?  What could go wrong?

    Maybe our new LT Cornelius Lucas changes all the bad karma.  That said, I still think if there's a top tier LT at #33 -it's time to stop screwing around with the blind side tackle spot - especially when we're talking about protecting someone that will be considered to be a franchise QB if they select one at #2 overall.  JMO.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers

    @flugel said:

    Can you imagine how much fun that would be with all our Tackles on the NFL version of disability again?  What could go wrong?

    Maybe our new LT Cornelius Lucas changes all the bad karma.  That said, I still think if there's a top tier LT at #33 -it's time to stop screwing around with the blind side tackle spot - especially when we're talking about protecting someone that will be considered to be a franchise QB if they select one at #2 overall.  JMO.

    Yeah , It looks like the end for James Hudson and our Freddie Childress award winner Jethro Willz Clampett

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by

    Todd McShay:   So the @Titans have respectfully cancelled private workouts with Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders, making it all but official they will take Cam Ward No. 1.

  • Todd McShay:   So the @Titans have respectfully cancelled private workouts with Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders, making it all but official they will take Cam Ward No. 1.

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by

    @orion said:

    Todd McShay:   So the @Titans have respectfully cancelled private workouts with Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders, making it all but official they will take Cam Ward No. 1.

    This is great.  We saw Cam Ward last year in a Browns Uniform.  I can’t unsee that comp.