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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Idk what came up in his medical, idk why he fell, but Will Johnson seems like a steal at 33. Dude was projected top 10 not long ago. Homer pick, I know, but it makes sense 

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      htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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      Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

      “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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        Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

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        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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        @htownbrown said:

        Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

        Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

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          @htownbrown said:

          Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

          Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

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          htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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          @tiamat63 said:

          Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

          I hope not.  It's a wasted pick if they intend to spend two 1st rounders for one next year.

          “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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            So if the Browns didn't like Sanders at #2 (or #5), do they now take him at #33 for a lower price? Or do they hope to use their 2 #1's next year for Manning?

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              @tiamat63 said:

              Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

              I hope not.  It's a wasted pick if they intend to spend two 1st rounders for one next year.

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @htownbrown said:

              I hope not.  It's a wasted pick if they intend to spend two 1st rounders for one next year.

              I agree. You got the first rounder next year to go balls to the wall for a QB in what has to be a better QB class. 

              I really wanted Josh Simmons to fall one more damn spot. 

              But the OTackle kid from Minnesota is still there, as is Treveyeon Henderson. I got to think something bad is coming up on Will Johnson's medical report. 

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                QB Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
                RB Treveyon Henderson, Ohio State
                RB Omarion Hamption, North Carolina
                WR Emeka Egbuka, Ohio State
                OT Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota
                DE Landon Jackson, Arkansas
                DT Tyleik Williams, Ohio State
                ILB Jihaad Campbell, Alabama
                CB Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
                S Xavier Watts, Notre Dame

                This was the list of ten players I thought might be available for the Browns at #33 that I made a little while ago. The players in bold have been drafted, leaving five still available. 

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                  alporciniA alporcini wrote on last edited by
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                  What is the story with Mike Green? Is he too big a reach?

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                    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                    Pretty sure it will be a QB at 33 

                    This FO and HC won’t be around next year if they go into the season with the QB room as it currently is 

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                      Idk what came up in his medical, idk why he fell, but Will Johnson seems like a steal at 33. Dude was projected top 10 not long ago. Homer pick, I know, but it makes sense 

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Idk what came up in his medical, idk why he fell, but Will Johnson seems like a steal at 33. Dude was projected top 10 not long ago. Homer pick, I know, but it makes sense 

                      Now that last season is over - he's great kid now!   Nothing is wrong with him - he's a great idea Woody.  The Browns have this new thinking of drafting Ohio State & Michigan guys like pairing Michael Hall Jr to team up with Mason Graham on the IDL. They recently drafted former Buckeye C Luke Wypler (IR last year) to eventually play next to Michigan OG Zak Zinter in the near future - who may some day also play next to Ohio State T Dawand Jones (if he can ever get his weight down).

                      Last but not least, drafting Michigan CB Will Johnson to team up with former Buckeye CB Denzel Ward at the back end is a great idea.

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                        @htownbrown said:

                        Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

                        Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Will likely be a QB first.  But Ennanawori would be an interesting pick at #36 (provides he makes it there)

                        Right now, we only have 1 starting Safety (and even that's getting debatable as much as I like Delpit's effort/hustle his miscommunication and mental errors aren't going away). This is BPA matching need.

                        You and I had nice chat about Emmanwori a few weeks ago.  Love his size and adore his speed.  At 6'3" 227 lbs - are we possibly seeing a next generation pedigree of Steve Atwater here?

                        The GOOD thing is we'll have a lot of great players/prospects landing on our 33rd and 36th slots. 

                        There's still a couple LTs this franchise could really use for whatever QB we suit up.  Washington drafted a Tackle in the 1st round after making a HUGE commitment to Laremy Tunsil in FA.  We signed the Tackle they felt they needed to upgrade for THEIR QB...

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                          Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

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                          FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                          @htownbrown said:

                          Emmanwori, then Henderson or Higgins at 36.

                          Very good ideas if they don't go QB.  That said - they can still get one of them at 36...

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                            I like the potential of Johnson at 33 and Emmanwori at 36.

                            RB class is very deep and a good one will fall to that top of rd3 pick.  QB class next year will be much better.

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                              OT Ersery at 33, S Emmanwori  at 36 if he is still there.  If not, maybe one of the RB's. 

                              There is going to be a run on runningbacks at some point. Maybe we start the run which will help our 3rd round.

                              Something tells me that we aren't looking at a QB unless it is a 5th round type guy....maybe a McCord type.  I also have this thought that maybe we swap a 5th for Levis. Obviously the Titans have given up on the guy after 2 seasons which is probably a little too soon.  A QB room of Flacco, Pickett, and Levis doesn't sound all that bad to me.

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                                What is the story with Mike Green? Is he too big a reach?

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                                @alporcini said:

                                What is the story with Mike Green? Is he too big a reach?

                                Not at all Al - Mike Green  the type of player that will fall to the Ravens.  In just 13 games he had 17 sacks and 22.5 tackles for a loss last year (1 of those sacks was against Ohio State). Did you see Ozzie was still in their draft room last night looking all professional in his blue and white checkered shirt 4-5 years after the alleged retirement. You can tell he's still helping his replacement big-time.

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                                  OT Ersery at 33, S Emmanwori  at 36 if he is still there.  If not, maybe one of the RB's. 

                                  There is going to be a run on runningbacks at some point. Maybe we start the run which will help our 3rd round.

                                  Something tells me that we aren't looking at a QB unless it is a 5th round type guy....maybe a McCord type.  I also have this thought that maybe we swap a 5th for Levis. Obviously the Titans have given up on the guy after 2 seasons which is probably a little too soon.  A QB room of Flacco, Pickett, and Levis doesn't sound all that bad to me.

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                                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  OT Ersery at 33, S Emmanwori  at 36 if he is still there.  If not, maybe one of the RB's. 

                                  There is going to be a run on runningbacks at some point. Maybe we start the run which will help our 3rd round.

                                  Something tells me that we aren't looking at a QB unless it is a 5th round type guy....maybe a McCord type.  I also have this thought that maybe we swap a 5th for Levis. Obviously the Titans have given up on the guy after 2 seasons which is probably a little too soon.  A QB room of Flacco, Pickett, and Levis doesn't sound all that bad to me.

                                  I was just going to remind people there's 2 potential immediate starters at LT IMO - Minnesota's Aireontae Ersery (whom I've been posting about) and Purdue's Marcus Mbow. WHY wait on this?  Says the guy who likes a lot of the ideas/suggestions I'm seeing.

                                  I know a lot people want guys that can score points or sack QBs; but a lot of the QBs left aren't the quickest processors which only increases the need for reliable protection on the edges TODAY.  Shedeur gets sacked a lot in spite of having a weapon like Hunter.  Some of that is patience and some of that a need to speed read fast enough to get the ball to his second or tertiary targets on time.  Best guess - this is why he's still available.

                                  I put some RBs on my post yesterday Flugel Favorite less talked about... RB is deep...

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                                    I'd be fine with Trayveon Henderson & Shedeur. 

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                                      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                      As much as I hope they focus heavily on offense, there's exceptional value on the defensive side of the ball going into day two. WIll Johnson, Emmanwori, and even someone like Mike Green all could be day one impact players who are for sure first round talents that slipped. A combo of one of those guys + Henderson would be a great 1/2 this evening.

                                      With all that being said, the only way they don't go QB with 33 or 36 is if both Stefanski and the FO have been given a strong vote of confidence that it's okay for 2025 to be a wash year and jobs aren't on the line. It blows, but it makes logical sense. If Sanders is called tonight though, I won't cry into my beer. There's enough there to roll the dice now, IMO. I also think there's a little too much worry that taking him (or another QB) in the 2nd round automatically means next year isn't a QB. If they draft Sanders, we suck and he sucks, just take the top dude next year and get some value back. It's definitely the nature of the NFL now.

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                        The RB class is deep enough that, even though I love Hendo, he's a no-go from me. You have talents at DB and OL that can be had early. Leave RB to late 3rd. 

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Idk what came up in his medical, idk why he fell, but Will Johnson seems like a steal at 33. Dude was projected top 10 not long ago. Homer pick, I know, but it makes sense 

                                          Now that last season is over - he's great kid now!   Nothing is wrong with him - he's a great idea Woody.  The Browns have this new thinking of drafting Ohio State & Michigan guys like pairing Michael Hall Jr to team up with Mason Graham on the IDL. They recently drafted former Buckeye C Luke Wypler (IR last year) to eventually play next to Michigan OG Zak Zinter in the near future - who may some day also play next to Ohio State T Dawand Jones (if he can ever get his weight down).

                                          Last but not least, drafting Michigan CB Will Johnson to team up with former Buckeye CB Denzel Ward at the back end is a great idea.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @flugel said:

                                          Now that last season is over - he's great kid now!   Nothing is wrong with him - he's a great idea Woody.  The Browns have this new thinking of drafting Ohio State & Michigan guys like pairing Michael Hall Jr to team up with Mason Graham on the IDL. They recently drafted former Buckeye C Luke Wypler (IR last year) to eventually play next to Michigan OG Zak Zinter in the near future - who may some day also play next to Ohio State T Dawand Jones (if he can ever get his weight down).

                                          Last but not least, drafting Michigan CB Will Johnson to team up with former Buckeye CB Denzel Ward at the back end is a great idea.

                                          Something is definitely "wrong" with him right now. You don't got from top 10 to out of the first just by watching tape. Considering the injury he suffered last season, and then something to keep him out of the pro day / combine process, my guess is medical. I wonder if there's surgery needed or something that will keep him out for a bit. 

                                          Regardless, it seems like good value at this point for the risk

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