Surviving Ohio State Documentary
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I wasn't sure where to put this topic but we have a lot of Buckeye fans in here while the Browns have some young players from Ohio State on the team. This won't change my affection for Buckeyes Football; but man does this documentary airing on HBO this month make you realize how bad former Assistant Wrestling Coach Jimmy Jordan let down a significant portion of that wrestling team (that was once looked up to him). When your sport is giving you a free ride - there's layers of vulnerability mentally and physically I just didn't think about. This is especially so when you have former state champion wrestlers wired as well as possible to defend themselves right? Watch the documentary. At first, I thought the only dirt bag was going to be the main predator Dr Strauss. Wrong! The enablers allowed this guy to get promoted to even more access to students that didn't play sports at the college. Like Coach Paterno once upon a time - 1 or both of the Wrestling Coaches at Ohio State had a chance to do something more honorable than church mouse quiet.
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Fuck Jim Jordan. Pretty sure he was or is still banned from Campus. Dude is lucky he isn't in prison, clown absolutely belongs there.
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Well what the hell!! Texas A&M just won the National Championship in Outdoor Track & Field.?
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Fuck Jim Jordan. Pretty sure he was or is still banned from Campus. Dude is lucky he isn't in prison, clown absolutely belongs there.
Fuck Jim Jordan. Pretty sure he was or is still banned from Campus. Dude is lucky he isn't in prison, clown absolutely belongs there.
FWIW, he was just as much of a dirt-bag when they aired this on the Spanish HBO channel. He went around calling some of the former wrestlers he didn't think he impacted. One of them was a wrestler who had a brother he phucked over - who told him where to go and how quickly to get there by the sound of it.
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I watched it and I followed the story and until this documentary didn’t know the digusting details.
A little background here. I attended wrestling camp at OSU in and around the late 90s and I attended Jim’s brother Jeff Jordan Camp back in the late 90s in small town Urbana OH as well. Jim was clinician for a day. Excellent instructor hard nosed dude very cerebral. I wrestled D1 early 00s in college wasn’t good enough to go to OSU. Around my time Hellickson wasn’t a very personable guy he did some camps at area HS just seemed like an old school prick for even that time. OSU team had a strange composition while Ohio was a hotbed had a lot of out of state guys in their program.
the documentary nailed the machismo attitude mindset of wrestling and that attitude doesn’t lineup necessarily with 20 years of church mouse quiet don’t say a peep. Today I can spot a wrestler not just by cauliflower ear but the way they handle BS put at them.
We had very brief physical in my day we did our skin check somewhat on our own unless we found something (staph, ringworm impetigo, herpes) and in fact we had a hydration test that required proof that we were placing a specimen (pee) in a cup and a doctor never followed us in the stall. Steroids were common and I imagine those in charge had an idea who was taking. I can’t for the life of me even 18-22 year old me allowing someone to handle me like the doctor did and while the prevailing attitude in documentary “we were on scholarship and couldn’t do anything about it” wrestling programs had 9.9 scholarships back in that time you had 5/6 full ride blue chippers and then about 10 others getting partial money and 15 other walk ons paying their way. So 20 years of walk ons and none of those guys felt compelled to say something or a transfer wouldn’t make waves? Makes me almost believe there were many others that stepped forward but were hushed or ignored.
Now having said that Jim should have done more Russ Hellickson should have done a lot more and kicked the doctors ass and the supervisor from 93-95 is an absolute lazy morally bankrupt digusting turd.
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I watched it and I followed the story and until this documentary didn’t know the digusting details.
A little background here. I attended wrestling camp at OSU in and around the late 90s and I attended Jim’s brother Jeff Jordan Camp back in the late 90s in small town Urbana OH as well. Jim was clinician for a day. Excellent instructor hard nosed dude very cerebral. I wrestled D1 early 00s in college wasn’t good enough to go to OSU. Around my time Hellickson wasn’t a very personable guy he did some camps at area HS just seemed like an old school prick for even that time. OSU team had a strange composition while Ohio was a hotbed had a lot of out of state guys in their program.
the documentary nailed the machismo attitude mindset of wrestling and that attitude doesn’t lineup necessarily with 20 years of church mouse quiet don’t say a peep. Today I can spot a wrestler not just by cauliflower ear but the way they handle BS put at them.
We had very brief physical in my day we did our skin check somewhat on our own unless we found something (staph, ringworm impetigo, herpes) and in fact we had a hydration test that required proof that we were placing a specimen (pee) in a cup and a doctor never followed us in the stall. Steroids were common and I imagine those in charge had an idea who was taking. I can’t for the life of me even 18-22 year old me allowing someone to handle me like the doctor did and while the prevailing attitude in documentary “we were on scholarship and couldn’t do anything about it” wrestling programs had 9.9 scholarships back in that time you had 5/6 full ride blue chippers and then about 10 others getting partial money and 15 other walk ons paying their way. So 20 years of walk ons and none of those guys felt compelled to say something or a transfer wouldn’t make waves? Makes me almost believe there were many others that stepped forward but were hushed or ignored.
Now having said that Jim should have done more Russ Hellickson should have done a lot more and kicked the doctors ass and the supervisor from 93-95 is an absolute lazy morally bankrupt digusting turd.
I watched it and I followed the story and until this documentary didn’t know the digusting details.
A little background here. I attended wrestling camp at OSU in and around the late 90s and I attended Jim’s brother Jeff Jordan Camp back in the late 90s in small town Urbana OH as well. Jim was clinician for a day. Excellent instructor hard nosed dude very cerebral. I wrestled D1 early 00s in college wasn’t good enough to go to OSU. Around my time Hellickson wasn’t a very personable guy he did some camps at area HS just seemed like an old school prick for even that time. OSU team had a strange composition while Ohio was a hotbed had a lot of out of state guys in their program.
the documentary nailed the machismo attitude mindset of wrestling and that attitude doesn’t lineup necessarily with 20 years of church mouse quiet don’t say a peep. Today I can spot a wrestler not just by cauliflower ear but the way they handle BS put at them.
We had very brief physical in my day we did our skin check somewhat on our own unless we found something (staph, ringworm impetigo, herpes) and in fact we had a hydration test that required proof that we were placing a specimen (pee) in a cup and a doctor never followed us in the stall. Steroids were common and I imagine those in charge had an idea who was taking. I can’t for the life of me even 18-22 year old me allowing someone to handle me like the doctor did and while the prevailing attitude in documentary “we were on scholarship and couldn’t do anything about it” wrestling programs had 9.9 scholarships back in that time you had 5/6 full ride blue chippers and then about 10 others getting partial money and 15 other walk ons paying their way. So 20 years of walk ons and none of those guys felt compelled to say something or a transfer wouldn’t make waves? Makes me almost believe there were many others that stepped forward but were hushed or ignored.
Now having said that Jim should have done more Russ Hellickson should have done a lot more and kicked the doctors ass and the supervisor from 93-95 is an absolute lazy morally bankrupt disgusting turd.
Great post! Really appreciate you sharing your experience with wrestling in Ohio and your insights as a former DI College Wrestler in terms of what those 18-22 year old kids were up against.
IMO, both of those coaches should have been hung by their balls. The problem with that is neither one of them had any balls to begin with...
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I watched it and I followed the story and until this documentary didn’t know the digusting details.
A little background here. I attended wrestling camp at OSU in and around the late 90s and I attended Jim’s brother Jeff Jordan Camp back in the late 90s in small town Urbana OH as well. Jim was clinician for a day. Excellent instructor hard nosed dude very cerebral. I wrestled D1 early 00s in college wasn’t good enough to go to OSU. Around my time Hellickson wasn’t a very personable guy he did some camps at area HS just seemed like an old school prick for even that time. OSU team had a strange composition while Ohio was a hotbed had a lot of out of state guys in their program.
the documentary nailed the machismo attitude mindset of wrestling and that attitude doesn’t lineup necessarily with 20 years of church mouse quiet don’t say a peep. Today I can spot a wrestler not just by cauliflower ear but the way they handle BS put at them.
We had very brief physical in my day we did our skin check somewhat on our own unless we found something (staph, ringworm impetigo, herpes) and in fact we had a hydration test that required proof that we were placing a specimen (pee) in a cup and a doctor never followed us in the stall. Steroids were common and I imagine those in charge had an idea who was taking. I can’t for the life of me even 18-22 year old me allowing someone to handle me like the doctor did and while the prevailing attitude in documentary “we were on scholarship and couldn’t do anything about it” wrestling programs had 9.9 scholarships back in that time you had 5/6 full ride blue chippers and then about 10 others getting partial money and 15 other walk ons paying their way. So 20 years of walk ons and none of those guys felt compelled to say something or a transfer wouldn’t make waves? Makes me almost believe there were many others that stepped forward but were hushed or ignored.
Now having said that Jim should have done more Russ Hellickson should have done a lot more and kicked the doctors ass and the supervisor from 93-95 is an absolute lazy morally bankrupt disgusting turd.
Great post! Really appreciate you sharing your experience with wrestling in Ohio and your insights as a former DI College Wrestler in terms of what those 18-22 year old kids were up against.
IMO, both of those coaches should have been hung by their balls. The problem with that is neither one of them had any balls to begin with...
Great post! Really appreciate you sharing your experience with wrestling in Ohio and your insights as a former DI College Wrestler in terms of what those 18-22 year old kids were up against.
IMO, both of those coaches should have been hung by their balls. The problem with that is neither one of them had any balls to begin with...
Maybe an unpopular opinion but assistant coach reporting behavior to next in command and if nothing is done you resign but before this the doctor is a takedown dummy for swift Justice. And Jim could mangle someone. After that you tell the authorities.
Hellickson an older wiser adult making one comment and doing nothing after that - he’s in charge of the program that’s unacceptable.
At 18-22 I went to my coaches for weight cutting advice and that advice wasn’t good, wrestling technique and if I had a lab and had to miss a non mandatory practice.
after an elbow to the orbital my first call would be to my dad.
It is hard to say if you aren’t put in that spot but I truly believe there were more reporters especially wrestlers with nothing to lose and probably a coverup not even reported so hanging by balls Justice - yes.
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In "Not" Surviving Ohio State news, ex-Buckeye OTackle Kirk Barton - from Stark County's Perry - was drunk last weekend and killed a 24 year old in the Columbus suburb of Dublin. Apparently this was not his first DUI. He had to go in front of a judge today charged with vehicular manslaughter.
He and another dude ran a popular Ohio State football podcast "Buckeye Scoop" which I watched for a bit, but ol' Kirk was a bit too red hat for me so I switched to Buckeye Huddle, which I definitely recommend for Buckeye football news.
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In "Not" Surviving Ohio State news, ex-Buckeye OTackle Kirk Barton - from Stark County's Perry - was drunk last weekend and killed a 24 year old in the Columbus suburb of Dublin. Apparently this was not his first DUI. He had to go in front of a judge today charged with vehicular manslaughter.
He and another dude ran a popular Ohio State football podcast "Buckeye Scoop" which I watched for a bit, but ol' Kirk was a bit too red hat for me so I switched to Buckeye Huddle, which I definitely recommend for Buckeye football news.
In "Not" Surviving Ohio State news, ex-Buckeye OTackle Kirk Barton - from Stark County's Perry - was drunk last weekend and killed a 24 year old in the Columbus suburb of Dublin. Apparently this was not his first DUI. He had to go in front of a judge today charged with vehicular manslaughter.
He and another dude ran a popular Ohio State football podcast "Buckeye Scoop" which I watched for a bit, but ol' Kirk was a bit too red hat for me so I switched to Buckeye Huddle, which I definitely recommend for Buckeye football news.
Ouch! In other news, yesterday's Cease-fire already ceased in the Middle East. It might have helped if both sides actually knew there was one to begin with...
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In "Not" Surviving Ohio State news, ex-Buckeye OTackle Kirk Barton - from Stark County's Perry - was drunk last weekend and killed a 24 year old in the Columbus suburb of Dublin. Apparently this was not his first DUI. He had to go in front of a judge today charged with vehicular manslaughter.
He and another dude ran a popular Ohio State football podcast "Buckeye Scoop" which I watched for a bit, but ol' Kirk was a bit too red hat for me so I switched to Buckeye Huddle, which I definitely recommend for Buckeye football news.
Ouch! In other news, yesterday's Cease-fire already ceased in the Middle East. It might have helped if both sides actually knew there was one to begin with...
Ouch! In other news, yesterday's Cease-fire already ceased in the Middle East. It might have helped if both sides actually knew there was one to begin with...
No worries... we are definitely in good hands ?
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No worries... we are definitely in good hands ?
Yep, a 22 y.o. in charge of what's left of our decimated "National Security". I feel safe don't you? ?
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No worries... we are definitely in good hands ?
Yep, a 22 y.o. in charge of what's left of our decimated "National Security". I feel safe don't you? ?
Yep, a 22 y.o. in charge of what's left of our decimated "National Security". I feel safe don't you? ?
Well you’ll always have your safe space you big brave soldja.
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No worries... we are definitely in good hands ?
Allstate sucks. That better be the what the fuck you’re talking about big boy.
You are not worthy of walking amongst these guys.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLQzsNLMkbj/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
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No worries... we are definitely in good hands ?
Allstate sucks. That better be the what the fuck you’re talking about big boy.
You are not worthy of walking amongst these guys.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLQzsNLMkbj/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Allstate sucks. That better be the what the fuck you’re talking about big boy.
You are not worthy of walking amongst these guys.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLQzsNLMkbj/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
Look who came out from the rock he hides under in his safe space on the poliboard and is talking big while hiding behind your laptop once again…
Unless you want to back up your threat in person?
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Yep, a 22 y.o. in charge of what's left of our decimated "National Security". I feel safe don't you? ?
Well you’ll always have your safe space you big brave soldja.
Well you’ll always have your safe space you big brave soldja.
"They're trying to kill me," Yossarian told him calmly. "No one's trying to kill you," Clevinger cried. "Then why are they shooting at me?" Yossarian asked.
"They're shooting at everyone." Clevinger answered. "They're trying to kill everyone."
"And what difference does that make?" Joseph Heller - Catch 22?
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Didn't expect this thread to go Israel Iran....
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Didn't expect this thread to go Israel Iran....
LOL!
He better be careful or he'll break loose the catheter and spill out of his Depends.?
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