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  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

  • So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

    The Bengals are starting Joe Flacco this week, so why not? 

  •  Something beyond the money not being brought up - the Brownies defense has played more 2 high shell this year than anytime under Schwartz. 

     Campbell is a hell of a corner in terms of sticking his nose into the run fits.   I wonder if this is yet another signal that the trends of more cover 2, 4, 5 & 6 will continue increasing.  

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @tiamat63 said:

     Something beyond the money not being brought up - the Brownies defense has played more 2 high shell this year than anytime under Schwartz. 

     Campbell is a hell of a corner in terms of sticking his nose into the run fits.   I wonder if this is yet another signal that the trends of more cover 2, 4, 5 & 6 will continue increasing.  

    Maybe Greg Newsomes celebrations got old too.. Not saying its the sole reason.. only added to the decision..

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Something beyond the money not being brought up - the Brownies defense has played more 2 high shell this year than anytime under Schwartz. 

     Campbell is a hell of a corner in terms of sticking his nose into the run fits.   I wonder if this is yet another signal that the trends of more cover 2, 4, 5 & 6 will continue increasing.  

    Maybe Greg Newsomes celebrations got old too.. Not saying its the sole reason.. only added to the decision..

    IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    @nickers said:

    Maybe Greg Newsomes celebrations got old too.. Not saying its the sole reason.. only added to the decision..

    Were Greg Newsome’s celebrations outlandish? I don’t remember if so. Denzel Ward does that corny Pete Townshend-esque windmill guitar thing when he makes a good play. 

  • @nickers said:

    Maybe Greg Newsomes celebrations got old too.. Not saying its the sole reason.. only added to the decision..

    Were Greg Newsome’s celebrations outlandish? I don’t remember if so. Denzel Ward does that corny Pete Townshend-esque windmill guitar thing when he makes a good play. 

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    Were Greg Newsome’s celebrations outlandish? I don’t remember if so. Denzel Ward does that corny Pete Townshend-esque windmill guitar thing when he makes a good play. 

    Yeah , Watson does that shit too...

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by Orion
    #17

    I've grown to not mind a little celebration after ya make a good play.  But it's to the point that if a receiver drops a pass, the defender is celebrating as if he's a hero.  They're trying to brand and promote themselves.  Look At Me

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    When asked about Tyson Campbell, the Browns’ defensive coordinator had nothing but praise for him.

    “Good size, great straight-line speed. Probably more of a scheme fit for us than he was with new regime in Jacksonville. Good press coverage guy, challenges guys physically,” Schwartz said, via Scott Petrak.

  • So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    @orion said:

    So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

    Possibly, but we have had those anyway.

    Defensive concepts aren't all that different from team to team.  Terminology might be different, but concepts aren't all that different.  I would suspect that one of the other DB's will be mentoring him as they break huddle to make sure he is clear on the coverage.

  • @orion said:

    So, is this our new starting corner in...umm...2 days?  I shouldn't envision any blown assignments right?   If I'm the Steelers I'd be loading his side with receivers.  

    Possibly, but we have had those anyway.

    Defensive concepts aren't all that different from team to team.  Terminology might be different, but concepts aren't all that different.  I would suspect that one of the other DB's will be mentoring him as they break huddle to make sure he is clear on the coverage.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    Possibly, but we have had those anyway.

    Defensive concepts aren't all that different from team to team.  Terminology might be different, but concepts aren't all that different.  I would suspect that one of the other DB's will be mentoring him as they break huddle to make sure he is clear on the coverage.

    True.  The Bengals found ways to isolate Newsome defending Chase and Newsome responded well to the challenge IMO.  I think I remember 2 plays he made running down the sidelines hip to hip with Chase knocking the ball down.  That said, I don't know who to blame for how wide open Zay Flowers was all game against the Rats.  My guess is some man to man a lot of man to man coverage with corners turning their back toward a QB with the footspeed of Lamar Jackson has isn't advisable.  Not only that but some coaches like to use zones to keep their LBers/DBs better positioned against the run which is important when facing a RB like Derrick Henry.  On the other hand, if you have a Myles Garrett upfront - it might be worth some trial and error mixing in some man to man with press coverage at the LOS to get some QB pressures. 

    That could have been a much better game if the offense competed that day...   

  • sydS syd

    here are our picks before the newsome trade

    Browns 2026 NFL Draft picks

    • 1st round pick
    • 1st round pick via JAX (2025 tradedown)
    • 2nd round pick
    • 3rd round pick
    • 4th round pick
    • 5th round pick
    • 5th round pick via LV (Kenny Pickett trade)
    • 5th round pick via CIN (Joe Flacco trade)
    • 6th round pick via NYJ (Jowon Briggs trade)
    • 7th round pick via SEA (Za'Darius Smith trade)
    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    here are our picks before the newsome trade

    Browns 2026 NFL Draft picks

    • 1st round pick
    • 1st round pick via JAX (2025 tradedown)
    • 2nd round pick
    • 3rd round pick
    • 4th round pick
    • 5th round pick
    • 5th round pick via LV (Kenny Pickett trade)
    • 5th round pick via CIN (Joe Flacco trade)
    • 6th round pick via NYJ (Jowon Briggs trade)
    • 7th round pick via SEA (Za'Darius Smith trade)

    Right now OUR 1st round pick is pick 2

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    I wasn't surprised they traded Newsome, He's a fine player, but his mistakes were annoying at times.

     Welcome to the new guy. He can play, too.

  • @syd said:

    here are our picks before the newsome trade

    Browns 2026 NFL Draft picks

    • 1st round pick
    • 1st round pick via JAX (2025 tradedown)
    • 2nd round pick
    • 3rd round pick
    • 4th round pick
    • 5th round pick
    • 5th round pick via LV (Kenny Pickett trade)
    • 5th round pick via CIN (Joe Flacco trade)
    • 6th round pick via NYJ (Jowon Briggs trade)
    • 7th round pick via SEA (Za'Darius Smith trade)

    Right now OUR 1st round pick is pick 2

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    Right now OUR 1st round pick is pick 2

    I know (sigh)