Tale of the Tape - Browns @ Patriots
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Patriots are good on paper, but 4 of their wins are the Dolphins, Saints, Titans and Panthers (who are getting better, but). I'm not trying to suggest the Browns aren't pretty firmly in this group of teams talent/record wise, but methinks there's at least a whiff of 'fool's gold' on their record. We certainly have a strong defense than all of them, and coming a dominant defensive-based win is going to give some good energy.
On top of that, you have a guy who knows Vrabel and has beaten him pretty soundly head to head in the past. Different circumstances no doubt, but I'm certainly planning to bet Browns +7.5. We shall see how it goes- if they can manage to win, being 3-5 into the bye week with the 4 of the next 5 games being Jets, Ravens, Raiders and Titans? Hopium could at least last until Turkey day haha.
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Patriots are good on paper, but 4 of their wins are the Dolphins, Saints, Titans and Panthers (who are getting better, but). I'm not trying to suggest the Browns aren't pretty firmly in this group of teams talent/record wise, but methinks there's at least a whiff of 'fool's gold' on their record. We certainly have a strong defense than all of them, and coming a dominant defensive-based win is going to give some good energy.
On top of that, you have a guy who knows Vrabel and has beaten him pretty soundly head to head in the past. Different circumstances no doubt, but I'm certainly planning to bet Browns +7.5. We shall see how it goes- if they can manage to win, being 3-5 into the bye week with the 4 of the next 5 games being Jets, Ravens, Raiders and Titans? Hopium could at least last until Turkey day haha.
Patriots are good on paper, but 4 of their wins are the Dolphins, Saints, Titans and Panthers
The Patriots should never have lost their game to the Steelers. They got themselves in scoring position so many times in that game...only to give the ball to the Steelers. Five turnovers. Stevenson fumbled twice. The Steelers were lucky.
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DID NOT PARTICIPATE
Patriots
LB Elijah Ponder (knee)
S Craig Woodson (ankle)
Browns
WR Jerry Jeudy (knee)
DT Adin Huntington (concussion)LIMITED PARTICIPATION
Patriots
WR Stefon Diggs (chest)
OT Morgan Moses (not injury related — other)
DT Christian Barmore (not injury related — other)
DT Khyiris Tonga (knee)
LB Harold Landry III (ankle)
Browns
TE David Njoku (knee)
TE Blake Whiteheart (shoulder)
G Joel Bitonio (rest)
DT Maliek Collins (rest)
DT Mason Graham (knee)
DT Shelby Harris (knee)
CB Denzel Ward (hip)
CB Tyson Campbell (quad)
S Rayshawn Jenkins (wrist)
FULL PARTICIPATION
Patriots
CB Christian Gonzalez (hamstring)
CB Charles Woods (knee)
S Jaylinn Hawkins (hamstring)
Browns
DT Mike Hall Jr. (knee)
S Grant Delpit (toe) -
DID NOT PARTICIPATE
Patriots
Browns
- OL Ethan Pocic (Illness) - Added to injury report on Thursday
- S Rayshawn Jenkins (wrist, back) - Was limited on Wednesday, back injury added
- DT Adin Huntington (concussion)
Jenkins having a setback with a new injury and Pocic’s illness will be obvious concerns to watch.
LIMITED PARTICIPATION
Patriots
- WR Stefon Diggs (chest)
- LB Elijah Ponder (knee) - DNP on Wednesday
- S Craig Woodson (ankle) - DNP on Wednesday
- OT Morgan Moses (not injury related — other)
- S Kyle Dugger (knee) - Added to injury report on Thursday
- DT Khyiris Tonga (knee)
- LB Harold Landry III (ankle)
Dugger being added to the injury report on Thursday will make his status on Friday important to watch, but getting both Ponder and Woodson back on the field would be helpful for the New England defense.
Browns
- TE David Njoku (knee)
- WR Jerry Jeudy (knee) - DNP on Wednesday
- OL Jack Conklin (rest) - Added on Thursday
- CB Tyson Campbell (quad)
A lot of names, and important names, on the limited list, including Njoku, practicing after missing last week’s game.
FULL PARTICIPATION
Patriots
- CB Christian Gonzalez (hamstring)
- DT Christian Barmore (not injury related — other) - Was limited on Wednesday
- CB Charles Woods (knee)
- S Jaylinn Hawkins (hamstring)
Browns
- DT Mike Hall Jr. (knee)
- DT Mason Graham (knee) - Was limited on Wednesday
- DT Shelby Harris (knee) - Was limited on Wednesday
- CB Denzel Ward (hip) - Was limited on Wednesday
- TE Blake Whiteheart (shoulder) - Was limited on Wednesday
- S Grant Delpit (toe)
A big development to see Hall on the full participation list to start the week, which should lead to his first active game of the season.
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Here’s the tv map for the game this Sunday. I had hoped for broader coverage going up against a 5-2 Pats team that seems to be playing with some mustard this year, but it’s mostly the usual suspects.
https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2025&wk=8
Most of Ohio gets the game, save for us greater Cincinnatians and my forsaken homies in Van Wert. A little chunk of eastern KY, western PA, and most of WV gets the game as well.
And other than that it’s the New England area getting the game, including MA, CT, RI, ME, VT, and NH.
The Adirondacks in northeast NY gets the game. They are the only mountains in the eastern US that are still growing, and it’s the location of Fort Ticonderoga, a key battle location in the French and Indian War, as well as Lake Placid, where the men’s US hockey team whipped the Ruskies’ ass in the 1980 winter Olympics.
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Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
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Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
LOL I saw that also and on to Victory
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Browns Injury Report
- DT Adin Huntington - Concussion - Limited - Questionable
- TE David Njoku - Knee - Limited - Questionable
- S Rayshawn Jenkins - Wrist, Back - Limited - No game day designation
- WR Jerry Jeudy - Knee - Limited - No game day designation
Patriots Injury Report
- S Kyle Dugger - Knee - Limited - Questionable
While Dugger has been playing sparingly, Njoku is an important piece of Cleveland’s offense and Huntington has been a unique 3-way player for the team. Sunday’s inactive report will be interesting as we find out the status of all three questionable players 90 minutes before Week 8 kicks off.
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Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Supposedly he had a bunch of injuries, a bunch of repairs, and had a lot of healing to do. Such that I get the feeling that he's going to be one of those guys often battling nagging injuries. Hopefully I'm wrong...but apparently he got massively screwed up last year.
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Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Supposedly he had a bunch of injuries, a bunch of repairs, and had a lot of healing to do. Such that I get the feeling that he's going to be one of those guys often battling nagging injuries. Hopefully I'm wrong...but apparently he got massively screwed up last year.
Supposedly he had a bunch of injuries, a bunch of repairs, and had a lot of healing to do. Such that I get the feeling that he's going to be one of those guys often battling nagging injuries. Hopefully I'm wrong...but apparently he got massively screwed up last year.
From what I remember he had a late season/last game knee injury?
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If Shelby and Graham are limited or DNP, it's going to be a repeat of 2021 sans Collins and Hall just playing like Banshees.
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Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Holy smokes Mike Hall Jr is actually going to play!
Sack pack?
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So Conklin is able to play. He's Gabriel's blind side protector. We'll need him to show that he's a good RT.
So Conklin is able to play. He's Gabriel's blind side protector. We'll need him to show that he's a good RT.
He is a good RT.
The rare times he actually suits up and plays for the Browns.
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He is a good RT.
The rare times he actually suits up and plays for the Browns.
Fuck it use both of our first rounders on OT
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He is a good RT.
The rare times he actually suits up and plays for the Browns.
Fuck it use both of our first rounders on OT
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