I can't believe it happened...
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Zombo said:
The freak year was 08, not 07.Joe out, Stallworth out, Winslow out ... we started the season with Steptoe as our #2 option and Dinkins as our healthiest Tight end ... I will give a prize out to whoever tells me where they both are right now.
Zombo
Nice double standard.
You blame Quinn when he has Robert Royal, Cribbs as his #2, Jamal Lewis still, and an even worse right side of the line.
But when Anderson doesn't have Joe J, Stallworth (who never did anything for us anyway), and Winslow, that's an excuse.
You just keep making yourself look even more biased.
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Zombo said:
Umm no .. I am granting Quinn the excuse.
I just want equal time for DA.
And I am saying that if you remove the three games for both, then Anderson has an impressive resume for a young QB while Quinn is a big unknown. Backtrack and read the posts if you are confused.
You are another ... Quinn Fag.
Zombo
Why do they let you post here? You offer little to no intelligence, and you're very rude.
Grow up.
And DA does not have an impressive resume. I posted the stats earlier.
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Zombo said:
Umm no .. I am granting Quinn the excuse.
I just want equal time for DA.
And I am saying that if you remove the three games for both, then Anderson has an impressive resume for a young QB while Quinn is a big unknown. Backtrack and read the posts if you are confused.
You are another ... Quinn Fag.
Zombo
Which 3 games are you removing? The 3 to start last season or the 3 starts in 2006 when he stuck up the stadium like he did at the beginning of last season?
Both QB's suck...Anderson isn't the savior...he's capable of a big game..he can throw 4 TD's or 4 INT's..no one knows which will happen week to week.
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Zombo said:
Umm no .. I am granting Quinn the excuse.
I just want equal time for DA.
And I am saying that if you remove the three games for both, then Anderson has an impressive resume for a young QB while Quinn is a big unknown. Backtrack and read the posts if you are confused.
You are another ... Quinn Fag.
Zombo
Which 3 games are you removing? The 3 to start last season or the 3 starts in 2006 when he stuck up the stadium like he did at the beginning of last season?
Both QB's suck...Anderson isn't the savior...he's capable of a big game..he can throw 4 TD's or 4 INT's..no one knows which will happen week to week.
Which 3 games are you removing? The 3 to start last season or the 3 starts in 2006 when he stuck up the stadium like he did at the beginning of last season?
Both QB's suck...Anderson isn't the savior...he's capable of a big game..he can throw 4 TD's or 4 INT's..no one knows which will happen week to week.
Actually, we always know what will happen.
If the defense is garbage, Anderson lights it up.
If the defense is average or better, he's terrible.
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To answer this before one of the Anderson supporters does....Anderson had a good game against a good defense last year when we played the Giants.
To answer this before one of the Anderson supporters does....Anderson had a good game against a good defense last year when we played the Giants.
Yep. He's got a 1-8 record against good defenses in his career.
I know that he had a great game against the Giants. He was impressive. It's just too bad that he couldn't keep it up.
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The sad thing is, the Browns are no closer to being competitive than they were in 99 when they came back. It has been 10 years and we are still playing like an expansion club. UGH!
The sad thing is, the Browns are no closer to being competitive than they were in 99 when they came back. It has been 10 years and we are still playing like an expansion club. UGH!
You know, I think Tampa Bay still did worse in its first several years as an expansion club.
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Which 3 games are you removing? The 3 to start last season or the 3 starts in 2006 when he stuck up the stadium like he did at the beginning of last season?
Both QB's suck...Anderson isn't the savior...he's capable of a big game..he can throw 4 TD's or 4 INT's..no one knows which will happen week to week.
Actually, we always know what will happen.
If the defense is garbage, Anderson lights it up.
If the defense is average or better, he's terrible.
Actually, we always know what will happen.
If the defense is garbage, Anderson lights it up.
If the defense is average or better, he's terrible.
You had me at "Lights it up".
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Zombo said:
The freak year was 08, not 07.Joe out, Stallworth out, Winslow out ... we started the season with Steptoe as our #2 option and Dinkins as our healthiest Tight end ... I will give a prize out to whoever tells me where they both are right now.
Zombo
Wow. Two straight (term used loosely) pages of a complete and total willingness to give Anderception a mulligan for 1st 3 games of '08 but not the same for Queef for this year. Both offenses are in complete disarray - (remind me who our TE & #2 receiver this year is again)- I'd say the circumstances are pretty effing similar.
Look Z, you take away DA's 1st 3 games of last season, and he's still a scattershot QB. A monster game against the Giants, a couple of serviceable games (still hovering around the 50% completion percentage, low 200 yds area) and then a couple of real stinkers. He is what he has been for his 5 years in the league & 4 years in college. He is the NFL QB equivalent of an Aneurysm.
IF ANYBODY is getting a prize, it should be me, for my new totally awesome nicknames for both of our QB's.
Brady Queef, & Derek Aneurysm. Kill me.Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
Zombo said:
Winslow was phucking injured you dipshit and Lewis blew.
DA was coming off a concusion and BE was coming off an injury, they had lost their chemistry and SEDRICK PHUCKING STEPTOE WAS THE #2 WIDEOUT. I just don't understand how you can say Quinn's circumstances the last three games were any worse than Anderson's the first three games last year. It's just bias, plain and simple.
You, my friend, are a Quinn Fag.
Zombo
Way to restore that credibility, Z. Nothing like typing the words "Quinn Fag" to convince people of your air-tight reasoning.
The point of my post, since you missed it (speaking of bias...), was that last year DA was a "Pro Bowl" QB, coming off a season in which he was rewarded with a (relatively) large contract and was crowned the unquestioned starter for a team that was a trendy pick to contend for the playoffs. He was the leader of an offense that he "knew" and "excelled" in, in 2007, with the full support of the GM, coach and OC. He was supposed to be the guy and everyone (who wasn't paying attention closely) was pumped for him to "break out".
And then he started the season 0-3 and played TERRIBLY, contributing to the debacle that was our '08 season. Yes, there were injuries, I'm aware of that, but I'm not using it as an excuse for DA just like I'm not using this year's ineptitude surronding Quinn as an excuse for him.
My point, quite simply, is that you are a hypocrite. DA stunk it up and was allowed to continue his "growth" while "gaining" valuable experience.
But not Quinn. Some of us say that we think 10 quarters against 2 top D's (and Elvis Dumervil) is not enough to judge a first-time starter in any circumstance let alone the clusterfuquay that is this team, right now.
Yet your response is that it's obvious Quinn sucks after starting 0-3 but NOT obvious DA sucks after going the same 0-3 under obviously more favorable circumstances.
And I'm the biased one?
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Zombo said:
The freak year was 08, not 07.Joe out, Stallworth out, Winslow out ... we started the season with Steptoe as our #2 option and Dinkins as our healthiest Tight end ... I will give a prize out to whoever tells me where they both are right now.
Zombo
Wow. Two straight (term used loosely) pages of a complete and total willingness to give Anderception a mulligan for 1st 3 games of '08 but not the same for Queef for this year. Both offenses are in complete disarray - (remind me who our TE & #2 receiver this year is again)- I'd say the circumstances are pretty effing similar.
Look Z, you take away DA's 1st 3 games of last season, and he's still a scattershot QB. A monster game against the Giants, a couple of serviceable games (still hovering around the 50% completion percentage, low 200 yds area) and then a couple of real stinkers. He is what he has been for his 5 years in the league & 4 years in college. He is the NFL QB equivalent of an Aneurysm.
IF ANYBODY is getting a prize, it should be me, for my new totally awesome nicknames for both of our QB's.
Brady Queef, & Derek Aneurysm. Kill me.A monster game against the Giants ......
You had me (again) at Monster game.
.... Bueller ..... Bueller .... Quinn .... Quinn .....?
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Z you better respond.
Looks to me like you just got owned.
Nice, rational post Dama.
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@danamal said:
Lets not forget,Everyone keeps using these parallels "the first three games"
To add to Dama's post DA not only was handed the keys for 08 but he returned to the EXACT same system as he had the previous year,with the EXACT same players.
What do we have this year,Cribbs as our #2,wtf?
But there was no JJ at the other WR for those first 3 games last year, BE missed some camp, DA had a concussion early in preseason, etc. (note I am mocking those excuses)
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KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!
if Quinn can have just a couple more games, or even the rest of the season>>> I JUST KNOW HE CAN GET IT RIGHT!!!!
i just know you can do it BQ, i just know it!!!
fuk that stupid DA, all he does is throw picks!! BQ is our savior, NOT HIM!!! (he's not even from Ohio. wtf.)
i think we should get a BQ chant goin in the stands during warmups for the Bengals game, WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!
WHOOHOO BQ!!!!
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I win.
Score one for reason.
Yay.
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tap tap
Still waiting for Z's response to dama. I'm really interested.
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Zombo said:
Marko, the Quinnies were whining about the "circumstances" that Quinn had to deal with in his three starts this year. I pointed out that they are no worse than the circumstances Anderson dealt with in his first three games last year with all the injuries, etc. Then I said if you give Quinn a mulligan for those three games, he is just a big unknown, while if you give Anderson a mulligan for those three games he actually has a pretty impressive career start for a young QB.There is no bias there. I'm just trying to explain something .... but unfortunately far too many Browns fans are blinded by love for Quinn and/or hate for Anderson.
The fact that Anderson is the better option right now seems reasonable to me. I didn't declare him a saviour or anything else. I just think he gives us a better chance to win a football game this Sunday.
Everything after that is Quinn Fagdom rearing its ugly head. Yes, I went there.
Zombo
You have to throw out more than 3 games for Anderson to have a "pretty impressive start". Don't forget the 3 starts in 2006..those games count as well, including a tremendous 4 int game against a shitty Tampa Bay team. Those 3 starts combined with the end of 2007 and most of 2008 don't add up to anything impressive. Inconsistent maybe...incredibly frustrating because you never know what you're going to get week to week.
My question for everyone who is happy that Anderson is now starting and saying "he gives us a better chance to win" is this....what are all of you going to say if Anderson repeats his late 2007 performance against Cincy and throws 4 ints and looks just like he did last week against Baltimore and we get blown out again?
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