Looking Ahead to the 2027 NFL Draft
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@Orion said:
It's awfully difficult to build a winning team when you have to try and do it IN SPITE OF your owner's unproductive meddling.
It's such an obvious prediction to make, though.
Haslam looooooove him some Mannings, Arch is a big name and the Browns need to sell PSLs and you just know Jimmy wants to make a splash as he heads towards Brookpark.
It would be pretty funny if Arch just decides to play one more season of college football.@Dutch-Oven
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@tiamat63 said:
when I post about his shortcomings... holy hell. The flame comes out
It's fine to report on a player's shortcomings. All players have shortcomings. But I think it's also important to tie it up in a bow. Is the player's shortcomings a deal breaker? Is he a player that should be a 1st round pick? (upper, middle, lower?) How does he compare with his direct competition? Would you want your team to draft him, should they require a player at his position?
It's like doing a yearly review of your subordinates. You start the review with positives. Then you work your way into the negatives. And finally you finish with positives...like, We just need to clean up a thing or two but you're a great asset to this department....yadda, yadda.
Because you know darned well that the player WILL be drafted, making him out to be junk is is probably not productive....unless you're reviewing Tim Tebow as a 1st round candidate. Finishing with positives will leave a better taste in a reader's mouth.@Orion said:
Finishing with positives will leave a better taste in a reader's mouth.
You're right; at the same time I'm not one to sugar coat if a 1st rounder is worthy of that status. If they aren't, yet being talking about in circles as such, then the critique to the NOT will be 1st, 2nd & 3rd chapters.
Arch is physically capable and he has improved his throwing motion a bit over the course of the off-season. But the problems with eye discipline and processing at the 3rd level still remain. I suppose phrasing it like that takes some of the edge off?...unless you're reviewing Tim Tebow as a 1st round candidate.
We don't use that name here.
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@Dutch-Oven - I love the Shrodinger's QB Stuff quote. (Physics, Shrodinger's Cat...both dead and alive at the same time)
How much does anyone want to bet that Manning will be drafted much higher than #24? -
@Dutch-Oven - I love the Shrodinger's QB Stuff quote. (Physics, Shrodinger's Cat...both dead and alive at the same time)
How much does anyone want to bet that Manning will be drafted much higher than #24?@Orion There’s not a chance in hell i would bet against you in that. I should go back since the Browns came back and post every QB drafted in the first 24 picks if all the drafts. We would laugh our asses off at some of the reaches on that list.
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@Orion There’s not a chance in hell i would bet against you in that. I should go back since the Browns came back and post every QB drafted in the first 24 picks if all the drafts. We would laugh our asses off at some of the reaches on that list.
@Dutch-Oven said:
@Orion There’s not a chance in hell i would bet against you in that. I should go back since the Browns came back and post every QB drafted in the first 24 picks if all the drafts. We would laugh our asses off at some of the reaches on that list.
Yup. But it's because it's the QB position. If you need a QB, then you're screwed. You can't win. You can't make the playoffs. You just suck. So you have to take some swings for a home run because otherwise you've go no hope at all. -
@Dutch-Oven said:
@Orion There’s not a chance in hell i would bet against you in that. I should go back since the Browns came back and post every QB drafted in the first 24 picks if all the drafts. We would laugh our asses off at some of the reaches on that list.
Yup. But it's because it's the QB position. If you need a QB, then you're screwed. You can't win. You can't make the playoffs. You just suck. So you have to take some swings for a home run because otherwise you've go no hope at all.@Orion Some positions that I think we will be focusing on seem pretty well represented too beyond QB… cornerback, defensive end, OLine.
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@Orion Some positions that I think we will be focusing on seem pretty well represented too beyond QB… cornerback, defensive end, OLine.
@Dutch-Oven And we need all of those. Hopefully, if we take a QB, we do it with just one 1st round pick and have the other to address one of those needs.
Here's the thing about QB. This century, we're quite well known for the mess we've made of the QB position. There's no way that we can draft a guy named MessMaker. -
@Dutch-Oven And we need all of those. Hopefully, if we take a QB, we do it with just one 1st round pick and have the other to address one of those needs.
Here's the thing about QB. This century, we're quite well known for the mess we've made of the QB position. There's no way that we can draft a guy named MessMaker.@Orion said:
@Dutch-Oven And we need all of those. Hopefully, if we take a QB, we do it with just one 1st round pick and have the other to address one of those needs.
Here's the thing about QB. This century, we're quite well known for the mess we've made of the QB position. There's no way that we can draft a guy named MessMaker.
Well this QB class is shaping up to being one that the top guys might not be the guys we thought they would be prior to the season starting.
I think there will be some QBs available with our first 1st Rounder - I still think the Browns could very well end up being a top 10 overall pick with their pick. In addition to the positions I listed I would add DTackle, but looking at this draft I don't see the Browns taking one with a first, plus I can't see them taking another DTackle that high after doing it with Graham.
Any talk of Sayin being a first rounder is gone - and honestly it never should have been a thing even before his injury today.
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