Draft homework
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2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere...
Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc
second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc
third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc
4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc
5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall....
6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith*
Our picks..........
Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea
JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous
2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere...
Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc
second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc
third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc
4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc
5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall....
6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith*
Our picks..........
Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea
JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous
Can you really count Plax as still being in the league?
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2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE)
NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league.
39 guys out of 53 Drafted NOT IN NFL , 14 players still in league only 1 still on the Browns.
1st round misses (again not really relevent winslow starts but...Ben Rothlisberger, tommie harris, lee evans, vince wilfork
2nd round...Jake Grove, Chris snee, Justin Smiley, Antwan odom, devery hendersen
3rd (all) Darnell docket Max Starks, Bernard Berrian
4th....jericho Cotchery, Jared Allen
5th... DJ Hackett...Errik Coleman
6th...(GET THIS) Corey Williams, Rex Hadnot
7th...Patrick Crayton, Derrick Ward
1 out of 53 guys we drafted still with team
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keep going hoe!
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This is somehow humorous
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2005...7 players drafted.....ONE STILL WITH TEAM....THAT MAKES 2 OUT OF 60 PLAYERS DRAFTED STILL WITH THE BROWNS....4 MORE OUT OF FOOTBALL...... AND FRYE NEARLY OUT........ 43 OF OUR DRAFT PICKS IN THE LAST/First 60 ARE OUT OF THE NFL!OF THE 17 IN THE NFL ONLY 2 PLAY FOR THE BROWNS. (Pontbriand and Pool) 17 of our 60 draft picks are in the nfl 🥷
Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool, Charlie Frye, Antonio perkins, Dave McMillan, Nick Speegle, and Jon Dunn in order 1~7
1st round missed...again BE is a starter....but Demarcus ware, Shawne Merriman....
2nd round....lofa tatupu, kevin burnett, corey webster
3rd(ouch)round...Channing Crowder, Justin tuck, Ellis Hobbs, leroy hill, nick kaczur, trai essex, dominique foxworth,
4th(even worse) Brandon Jacobs,Marion Barber, Kerry rhodes, Vincent fuller, Jason Brown, Chris Canty, Darren Sproles, Brady Poppinga, Dan Buenning
5th round misses...Trent Cole, Michael Boley, Gerald sensabaugh
6th roun....Bo Scaife, Jovan Haye, Chris Kemoeatu...(get this) CJ Mosely,Derrick Anderson and Daven Holly*
7th round...Reynaldo hill, matt casell, Jay Ratliff
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2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit
9 players drafted......4 still with team....(just fkn three years ago)....5 OUT OF NFL .....THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL
In order (1)Kam Wimbley, (traded faine and moved up to NO swapped second rounders)...(2)Dqwell Jackson, (3)Travis Wilson, (4a)Leon Williams,)(4b) Issac sowells, (5a)Jerome Harrison, (5b)Demario Minter, (6)Lawrence Vickers and (7)Justin Hamilton
Misses...rd1 nick mangold, Deangelo williams, Santonio Holmes blah blah blah
rd 2...maurice jones drew, Marcus Mcneil, Lendale white, Devin hester, Greg Jennings, Roman Harper
rd 3 Jerious Norwood, David Thomas, Rashad butler, Max Jean Giles
rd4. (fkn sick) Brandon Marshall, leon washington, Barry cofield, Stephen tulloch, Will blackmon, Elvis dumervill , Domenik Hixon, Parys Harleson, willie colon,
rd 5...dawan landry,mark anderson,
rd 6... Omar gaither, Pat McQuistan
round 7 Courtland Finnegan and Marquis Colston
cant do anymore...VOMIT
Building through the draft is absolutely to way to go ONLY IF YOU CAN EVALUATE TALENT! The worst in the NFL bar none....there is no need to look any further into what is wrong with the Cleveland Browns....Can someone figure out those percentages....my brain hurts!
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2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit
9 players drafted......4 still with team....(just fkn three years ago)....5 OUT OF NFL .....THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL
In order (1)Kam Wimbley, (traded faine and moved up to NO swapped second rounders)...(2)Dqwell Jackson, (3)Travis Wilson, (4a)Leon Williams,)(4b) Issac sowells, (5a)Jerome Harrison, (5b)Demario Minter, (6)Lawrence Vickers and (7)Justin Hamilton
Misses...rd1 nick mangold, Deangelo williams, Santonio Holmes blah blah blah
rd 2...maurice jones drew, Marcus Mcneil, Lendale white, Devin hester, Greg Jennings, Roman Harper
rd 3 Jerious Norwood, David Thomas, Rashad butler, Max Jean Giles
rd4. (fkn sick) Brandon Marshall, leon washington, Barry cofield, Stephen tulloch, Will blackmon, Elvis dumervill , Domenik Hixon, Parys Harleson, willie colon,
rd 5...dawan landry,mark anderson,
rd 6... Omar gaither, Pat McQuistan
round 7 Courtland Finnegan and Marquis Colston
cant do anymore...VOMIT
Building through the draft is absolutely to way to go ONLY IF YOU CAN EVALUATE TALENT! The worst in the NFL bar none....there is no need to look any further into what is wrong with the Cleveland Browns....Can someone figure out those percentages....my brain hurts!
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10 years of bad GMs and horrible coaches...combined with al being fire happy and randy not letting crennel/savage go soon enough are the real root of the problem...
Randy obviously likes mangini and hopefully will stick with him because thats really what it will take to turn things around...unlike past coaches/GMs im starting to think this regime may be a very solid drafter...
We have yet to see robiskie and velkune but i bet they will both be worth the wait when mangooni deems them ready...im actually feeling pretty good about this regime as their longterm plan becomes more obvious..Daboll needs to add more flavors to his rather stale vanilla plan but that seems to be happening with DA at the helm...
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2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE)
NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league.
39 guys out of 53 Drafted NOT IN NFL , 14 players still in league only 1 still on the Browns.
1st round misses (again not really relevent winslow starts but...Ben Rothlisberger, tommie harris, lee evans, vince wilfork
2nd round...Jake Grove, Chris snee, Justin Smiley, Antwan odom, devery hendersen
3rd (all) Darnell docket Max Starks, Bernard Berrian
4th....jericho Cotchery, Jared Allen
5th... DJ Hackett...Errik Coleman
6th...(GET THIS) Corey Williams, Rex Hadnot
7th...Patrick Crayton, Derrick Ward
1 out of 53 guys we drafted still with team
2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE)
NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league.
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Oops. i got to know Chambers when he was in town, and he is still with Buffalo (unless something has happened in the last couple weeks). Nonetheless, you're point is well taken.
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It'd be interesting to see these stats for the Steelers and Ravens from 1999-2006.
Too much work but I did a quick first two years of Ravens 99 and 2000 Draft....
4 picks 1999... 1st rd Chris McAlister, no second, no third, 4th round Brandon Stokely 4th round Edwin Mulitalo, no 5th no 6th, 7th rd Anthony Poindexter
3 still playing in NFL 1 out of league 3 of 4 still in NFL , 1 of 4 out of league , 1 still plays for ravens
2000:
6 Picks
rd 1 Jamal Lewis
rd 1 Travis Taylor
rd 3 Chris Redman
rd 5 Richard Marcier
rd 6 Adalius Thomas
rd 6 Cedric woodard
3 still playing, 3 out of league, none still with ravens.... 6 of 10 still playing in league... 4 out of Nfl..... They did better in 99 and 2000 than we have in 1 whole decade...they did better with 10 draft picks than we have with 69(thru 2006)
we had 24 picks in those two draft years...only one still in league....northdrop
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I did a quick first two years of Steelers 99 and 2000 Draft....
99' 11 picks:
Troy edwards, Scot Shields, Joey Porter, Kris Farris, Amos Zereoue, Aaron Smith, Jereme Tuman, Malcolm Johnson, Antonio Dingle, Chad Kelsay, Kris Brown
3 still in league...(1 played a pretty long time), 8 out of league...One still with Steelers.
2000: 9 picks:
Plaxico Burress, Marvel Smith, Kendrick Clancy, Hank Poteat, Danny Farmer, Clark Haggins, Tee Martin, Chris Combs, Jason Gavadza
Still in league Clark haggins and Marvel Smith just cut this year so I will include him(each played 10 years).....haggins played ten years for the team that drafted him!!!
2 still in league + 2 that played 10 years and Plax {who'd still be playing(neb)}
SO 20 draft picks 5 still in league + Plax and + Haggins and Marvel smith who both played 10 years....
1 still with team, 8 still in NFL - (*plax) who'd still be playing....*haggins and smith who played 10 years. That's 8 of 20
Still not great but 800% better than The Browns.... AGAIN WAY BETTER THAN THE BROWNS DID in 99' and 2000(plus pitt drafts after 2000 Kill us)
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OK to finish with 2007 and 2008 OOF = OUT OF FOOTBALL
2007 7 Picks: 4 with team....3 out of football
JT,BQ,Eric Wright, Brandon Mcdonald,{ Melila Purcell,Chase Pittman and steptoe} OOF
2008 6 Picks: 2 with team....2 out of football + 2 on Dev squad
Beau bell(oof), Martin Rucker (dev squad), Ahtyba Rubin, Paul Hubbard(dev squad), Allen Patrick(oof) Alex hall...
For a Grand total of I'll be generous and include the two practice squad players.....
53 PLAYERS OUT OF 82 DRAFTED BY BROWNS ARE OUT OF FOOTBALL AS OF DRAFT CLASS THRU 2008....
12 OF 82 STILL WITH THE BROWNS + 2 DEV SQUAD 12 OUT OF 82 PICKS!!!!! 6 OF THOSE FROM 07', 08'
HERE IS SOLE REASON WE SUCK AS A FOOTBALL TEAM........ONLY 29 PLAYERS DRAFTED IN 82 TRIES PLAY IN THE NFL!!!
ONLY FKN 12 ARE STILL WITH THE BROWNS AND HALF THAT ARE GUYS IN THE LEAGUE 2 YEARS OR LESS!!!
RAVENS DRAFT CLASS OF 1999 AND 2000 = 6 of 10 still playing in league...AND THEY ONLY HAD 10 PICKS IN 2 DRAFT CLASSES...
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Very nice solon, you put in alot of work. Great read, depressing as hell but very informative.
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Drum roll please..............in first 7 draft classes 99~2005.........20 picks in first three rounds..............Only Brodney Pool is left on our team!!!!!!!!!
1 for 20.....wooohooooo!!!!!!! 9 of 20 OOF ///// 10 of 20 on other teams//// and only 4 start!!! BE, Winslow, Faine and Gerard Warren.
Frye, sean jones, chaun thompson, Northdrop, andre davis and chris crocker are backups.
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Too much work to let die:
Baltimore....... In the 7 draft classes 99'~05
7 of the 17 picks in first three rounds of those draft Classes...Still with team
5 of 17 out of football
12 of 17 still in league
5 play for other teams
jamal lewis casey rabach start, ///// Devard Darling, Chris Redman and Kyle boller backups
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