Draft homework
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Very nice solon, you put in alot of work. Great read, depressing as hell but very informative.
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Drum roll please..............in first 7 draft classes 99~2005.........20 picks in first three rounds..............Only Brodney Pool is left on our team!!!!!!!!!
1 for 20.....wooohooooo!!!!!!! 9 of 20 OOF ///// 10 of 20 on other teams//// and only 4 start!!! BE, Winslow, Faine and Gerard Warren.
Frye, sean jones, chaun thompson, Northdrop, andre davis and chris crocker are backups.
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Too much work to let die:
Baltimore....... In the 7 draft classes 99'~05
7 of the 17 picks in first three rounds of those draft Classes...Still with team
5 of 17 out of football
12 of 17 still in league
5 play for other teams
jamal lewis casey rabach start, ///// Devard Darling, Chris Redman and Kyle boller backups
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The online stream I was watching was pretty grainy, but I'm pretty sure Robiskie was out there Sunday.
Plus, it's extremely rare that a team has two early round rookie receivers contribute in the same year. Normally, a team has at least one established starter, leaving the two rooks to compete for the same spot. With Braylon gone, we may now get a chance to see both Robiskie and Massaquoi audition for starting jobs.
Hopefully, at least one of them will grow into a legit starting wideout. Unfortunately, very few teams have managed to draft two early round wideouts and have both of them succeed. You can find a lot of failures on this list:
2009:
Browns: Brian Robiskie, Mohamed MassaquoiDolphins: Patrick Turner, Brian Hartline
2008: Redskins: Devin Thomas, Malcolm KellyBengals: Jerome Simpson, Andre Caldwell
2007: Titans: Paul Williams, Chris Davis2006: Steelers: Santonio Holmes, Willie Reid2005: Titans: Courtney Roby, Brandon Jones, Roydell Williams2004: Jaguars: Reggie Williams, Ernest WilfordNiners: Rashaun Woods, Derrick Hamilton
2003: Cardinals: Bryant Johnson, Anquan BoldinRams: Kevin Curtis, Shaun McDonald
2000: Bengals: Peter Warrick, Ron DuganSteelers: Plaxico Burress, Danny Farmer
Browns: Dennis Northcutt, JaJuan Dawson
Eagles: Todd Pinkston, Gari Scott
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Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
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Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
I think this new staff might already be choking themselves w/ that leash.
We all know it takes a few years for a draft class to pan out, but right now, the only guy I see from this draft being a significant contributor in 3 years is Mack. I hope I am wrong.
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Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
I think this new staff might already be choking themselves w/ that leash.
We all know it takes a few years for a draft class to pan out, but right now, the only guy I see from this draft being a significant contributor in 3 years is Mack. I hope I am wrong.
Masters said:
I think this new staff might already be choking themselves w/ that leash.We all know it takes a few years for a draft class to pan out, but right now, the only guy I see from this draft being a significant contributor in 3 years is Mack. I hope I am wrong.
WOW, I know it was one game. But Momass showed something in that game, and everything I read says he has the skill set to do very well. Sure if you expect him to be a #1 superstar like Edwards it's a stretch, but I think he'll be a quality wr for years to come.
the rest of the draft I agree the jury is still way out on.
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Masters said:
I think this new staff might already be choking themselves w/ that leash.We all know it takes a few years for a draft class to pan out, but right now, the only guy I see from this draft being a significant contributor in 3 years is Mack. I hope I am wrong.
WOW, I know it was one game. But Momass showed something in that game, and everything I read says he has the skill set to do very well. Sure if you expect him to be a #1 superstar like Edwards it's a stretch, but I think he'll be a quality wr for years to come.
the rest of the draft I agree the jury is still way out on.
WOW, I know it was one game. But Momass showed something in that game, and everything I read says he has the skill set to do very well. Sure if you expect him to be a #1 superstar like Edwards it's a stretch, but I think he'll be a quality wr for years to come.
the rest of the draft I agree the jury is still way out on.
Like I said in one of the other threads, even Andre Davis and Kevin Johnson had days like MoMass did (if not better if you go by TDs). I just don't see him as a player the team couldn't easily replace or as a guy you don't see on just about every NFL team.
I certainly hope I end up wrong.
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Hey I liked Kevin Johnson
i have his jersey
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Hey I liked Kevin Johnson
i have his jersey
Hey I liked Kevin Johnson
I liked him as well.
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WOW, I know it was one game. But Momass showed something in that game, and everything I read says he has the skill set to do very well. Sure if you expect him to be a #1 superstar like Edwards it's a stretch, but I think he'll be a quality wr for years to come.
the rest of the draft I agree the jury is still way out on.
Like I said in one of the other threads, even Andre Davis and Kevin Johnson had days like MoMass did (if not better if you go by TDs). I just don't see him as a player the team couldn't easily replace or as a guy you don't see on just about every NFL team.
I certainly hope I end up wrong.
Masters said:
Like I said in one of the other threads, even Andre Davis and Kevin Johnson had days like MoMass did (if not better if you go by TDs). I just don't see him as a player the team couldn't easily replace or as a guy you don't see on just about every NFL team.I certainly hope I end up wrong.
Just curious what you use to make that decision already? What does he do that you don't like?
I understand not guaranteeing he'll be good. But it sounds to me like you already think he's a bust of a second round pick and I just don't get it?
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Masters said:
Like I said in one of the other threads, even Andre Davis and Kevin Johnson had days like MoMass did (if not better if you go by TDs). I just don't see him as a player the team couldn't easily replace or as a guy you don't see on just about every NFL team.I certainly hope I end up wrong.
Just curious what you use to make that decision already? What does he do that you don't like?
I understand not guaranteeing he'll be good. But it sounds to me like you already think he's a bust of a second round pick and I just don't get it?
Just curious what you use to make that decision already? What does he do that you don't like?
I understand not guaranteeing he'll be good. But it sounds to me like you already think he's a bust of a second round pick and I just don't get it?
I was going by what we see right now. So far, I have not seen anything out of MoMass to believe he is anything special or more than WR filler by NFL standards. Throw in how he followed up his big game and I question his long term value. I wasn't trying to imply he is a bust or will be. I am sure that kid will be around the NFL for a long time. I just question that he is a legit #2 WR, in that he's a guy any team would be more than satisfied w/ at the #2 spot. He certainly doesn't look the part of a #1.
Then there is the fact that it is the Browns we are talking about.
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Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
Alo...I know that....that's why I was against it from the beginning. Two wr's in second round not my choice especially with what was on the board.....and I hope veikune is the player they think he is....second round LB's should start. This is the points I have made of the evaluation process of this regime....After the utter futility of our first ten drafts....they are on a very very very short leash with me!
ALO...I revise my position....want nothing to do with McCoy....Mallett 1st / Clausen 2nd
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