Anybody read . . .
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@inspecta said:
Dear God.....we've been reduced to discussing the shoes our backup QB is wearing to practice.....I knew we were diehard insane fans, but never did I think we would go THERE.It's kind of sad imo. How shitty is our favorite team when we are reduced to talking about a pair of shoes
Masters said:
It's kind of sad imo. How shitty is our favorite team when we are reduced to talking about a pair of shoesI think its the the man love for the QB that is wearing the shoes more than the shoes itself.
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We're not discussing shoes ffs.
We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.
Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.
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I don't understand this whole thing of Quinn being unpopular in the locker room.
That article also said this:
"Monday morning's alleged altercation was just one in a litany of incidents for Edwards since he was taken third overall in the 2005 draft. He was partying with Donte' Stallworth hours before Stallworth drove drunk and killed pedestrian Mario Reyes in Miami Beach in March. Last August, Edwards was stopped for driving 120 mph in a 65 mph zone on Interstate 90 in Avon. Edwards was voted to his first Pro Bowl in 2007, setting a franchise record with 1,289 yards and 16 touchdowns, then led the league in dropped passes in 2008.
He's sure to love the attention and the nightlife in New York, although his wardrobe might need some alterations. His new teammates ragged on him for the ''high water'' pants he was wearing with a gray suit when he arrived in the locker room.
Chances are he'll get them lengthened immediately. Last Friday when Quinn gave tight end Robert Royal the jacket off his back, Edwards checked the label and told Royal, ''You need some Louis Vuitton tennis shoes to go with that.''
Seems likes he gets along with his teammates, and the shoe thing may have just been a goodbye to Braylon.
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@inspecta said:
You can take that notion and shove it up your ass. Other than playground legend I don't know of too many posters who are openly lobbying for Quinn to return the starting role. I think we've all moved on from this point and hoping against hope that somehow DA returns to 07 form and makes us somewhat respectable...Awwww your so cute when you get all fired up for no reason. That was a joke there big guy.
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We're not discussing shoes ffs.
We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.
Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.
We're not discussing shoes ffs.
We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.
Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.
So I was just listening to Reghi (he was at practice yesterday) and he was saying Quinn did it as nod to his departed friend and teammate. Is that really negative or positive? I still see nothing detrimental to a team or not being a team guy by giving a nod to a departing friend/coworker/teammate. As I said earlier its much ado about nothing right now.
Reghi also noted that yesterday while at Cribbs locker, he could tell Cribbs was disappointed and unhappy about the trade of Edwards. Should we get out our torches for him too? Is he now not a team guy too?
Unless any of these guys are actually causing a disruption, it's a whole lot about nothing.
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Some of you need to get back to work. LOL
He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
BE was liked by a lot of people. DQJ said this doesn't make the team stronger. Want to say DQJ is writing his ticket out oftown? Everyone liked BE. Relax people. We need to beat Buffalo so this bs about a pair of fooking shoes can die a horrible death.
Losing is making some people act like little girls with this petty soap opera gossip.
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Some of you need to get back to work. LOL
He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
BE was liked by a lot of people. DQJ said this doesn't make the team stronger. Want to say DQJ is writing his ticket out oftown? Everyone liked BE. Relax people. We need to beat Buffalo so this bs about a pair of fooking shoes can die a horrible death.
Losing is making some people act like little girls with this petty soap opera gossip.
Some of you need to get back to work. LOL
He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
BE was liked by a lot of people. DQJ said this doesn't make the team stronger. Want to say DQJ is writing his ticket out oftown? Everyone liked BE. Relax people. We need to beat Buffalo so this bs about a pair of fooking shoes can die a horrible death.
Losing is making some people act like little girls with this petty soap opera gossip.
Exactly.
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We're not discussing shoes ffs.
We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.
Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.
We're not discussing shoes ffs.
We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.
Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.
Maybe I was asleep for a decade or so, but since when does everything a player does have to be about making a statement? IMO people (here and possibly in the media) are blowing this up to be more than what it really is.
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I wonder if DA wore his I LUV Shaun Smith T-shirt during Brian Cox's morning warm-ups the day he was released? You know, just to show support for his ex teammate.
Of course it's a statement. Why else would he do it? Dude's probably got 23 pairs of cleats specially made for him. You think he needs hand-me-downs?
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@jadbf said:
A statement in support of what again?Let's see, BE is going to a 3-1 team with a good defense and a rookie QB being given a long leash. WOW, Sorry to hear about your luck BE.
Or is it a statement about it's too bad a good friend had to be traded? Again. WOW that statement of support really needed to be made.
When you support someone, you gennerally are supporting them AGAINST something.
As for Cribbs, Masters, No I don't expect players to all be happy about this trade. They have friends, they have opinions about what direction this team should be going. BUt notice how he said "He could tell", not that Cribbs said or did anything specific?
I don't know, support in "hey I will miss you personally".
I don't see how it is wow, if it is a nod to a good friend being traded. This stuff goes on in every sport almost anytime a player is traded.
Was it needed? No. But are they ever needed when any athlete in any sport does that?
As Vegas said, if anyone on that team or Mangini gives this even a thought, it's High Schoolish. I'd also say if anyone in Berea is giving a thought about it, the Browns are in big, big, big trouble.
I am guessing Cribbs answered the questions in the correct manor to not give a sound bite. Reghi was now just saying a lot of players were saying yesterday they didn't think this move helped the team (which leads me back to my original point of finding it silly people focus on Quinn/the shoes instead of the rest of that article).
I'll also say, if there is any truth to that part of the article, and if Mangini really gets worked up about a pair of shoes, this team is doomed to fail.
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@jadbf said:
A statement in support of what again?Let's see, BE is going to a 3-1 team with a good defense and a rookie QB being given a long leash. WOW, Sorry to hear about your luck BE.
Or is it a statement about it's too bad a good friend had to be traded? Again. WOW that statement of support really needed to be made.
When you support someone, you gennerally are supporting them AGAINST something.
As for Cribbs, Masters, No I don't expect players to all be happy about this trade. They have friends, they have opinions about what direction this team should be going. BUt notice how he said "He could tell", not that Cribbs said or did anything specific?
Again, why does it have to be viewed as Quinn making a statement at all, instead of as a minor tribute to a friend? Its people here that are making it into a statement. Not EVERYTHING a player does is ALWAYS about making a STATEMENT.
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Some of you need to get back to work. LOL
He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
BE was liked by a lot of people. DQJ said this doesn't make the team stronger. Want to say DQJ is writing his ticket out oftown? Everyone liked BE. Relax people. We need to beat Buffalo so this bs about a pair of fooking shoes can die a horrible death.
Losing is making some people act like little girls with this petty soap opera gossip.
He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
Don't be naive.
He's too smart to not realize what wearing the shoes of a traded player means; it means he wants to be in that player's shoes (ie. traded).
That's all there is to it. He feels slighted, and he's making his desires known.
He wants out.
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@jadbf said:
I must not watch enough sports I don't remember hearing about players weaing other players clothes to practice as a nod to thier friend being traded.To me THAT's the highschool mentality. "Bye Braylon, we'll miss you!"
Tomorrow it's Braylon's Wolverine's letterman sweater.
Maybe Edwards pinned Quinn right before he got traded?
If it was to support a guy that wouldn't even know about it but for the "off chance" that Marla would ask him about his cute orange shoes, it's got to be the gayest thing I've ever heard of.
Let's hope it was some form of protest.
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@jadbf said:
I must not watch enough sports I don't remember hearing about players weaing other players clothes to practice as a nod to thier friend being traded.To me THAT's the highschool mentality. "Bye Braylon, we'll miss you!"
Oh, they wear clothes, use some dudes glove, batting helmet, bat, etc. Usually for a day or two. Now if they show up later outside of practice, then you got something of a jab.
Of course it is a bit schoolgirlish. So are good by parties for people who leave a job or other stuff like that imo. Let's remember, most pro athletes go about their lives like they are still little kids. They are being paid to play a game.
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He and BE were friends. Quinn made a statement of support. If Mangini takes it as a fook you to him, or Quinn meant it that way, it's High Schoolish. If you guys think that is what's going on here you're crazy.
Don't be naive.
He's too smart to not realize what wearing the shoes of a traded player means; it means he wants to be in that player's shoes (ie. traded).
That's all there is to it. He feels slighted, and he's making his desires known.
He wants out.
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@jadbf said:
How much would I be willing to be that MOST of those players who traded (or more likely left via free agency) we not considered "difficult" players. Did anyone in Boston wear something of Manny's?Again, I think context is everything in a situation like this. And Quinn should be smart enough to understand that context.
Oh, I'd agree in most other cases the guy wasn't considered "difficult".
Everyone doesn't always think or expect something as innocuous as this to cause any kind of stir.
Only Quinn knows what his true intention/meaning was. Everything else is rampent rumor and speculation. So is drawing conclusions about what kind of teammate or team guy Quinn is based on a pair of shoes.
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Masters said:
As opposed to being cynical.Seriously tho dude, Quinn is a very smart guy. He's not stupid enough to wear the guys shoes and not expect people to think he wants out of Cleveland. So, if he didn't want people to think that, he wouldn't wear the shoes.
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Masters said:
As opposed to being cynical.Seriously tho dude, Quinn is a very smart guy. He's not stupid enough to wear the guys shoes and not expect people to think he wants out of Cleveland. So, if he didn't want people to think that, he wouldn't wear the shoes.
Seriously tho dude, Quinn is a very smart guy. He's not stupid enough to wear the guys shoes and not expect people to think he wants out of Cleveland. So, if he didn't want people to think that, he wouldn't wear the shoes.
That has nothing to do with intellegence. Again, why does it have to be more than just a nod to a teammate and friend? Because people want to read into it. Jesus, you could read shit like that into everything and anything if you really wanted to.
It's a pair of freakin shoes.
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@jadbf said:
See I don't even think it has to be taken that seriously.I think Quinn could be saying as little as "Braylon didn't get treated fairly here".
It doesn't have to mean he wants out too.
This I fully agree with.
Right there you get back to my other original point, which is making Quinn wearing the shoes out to be a fact about anything. It can mean nothing more than "hey, you will be missed (like something to a falle comrade)", "Braylon didn't get treated fairly here", or it could me "I want to be in Edwards shoes". You can draw all kinds of different conclusions if you really want to.
To me, its a pair of shoes, and move on (unless Quinn is still wearing them today and on Sunday).
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