Ndamukong Suh
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Did anybody see Mizzou vs. Nebraska last night? This guy was all over the place, I would really like to here Alo's thought's on this guy. Here is a scouting report on him.
Ndamukong Suh, 6-4/305
Defensive Tackle Nebraska
Ndamukong Suh Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths:
Very big frame
Outstanding muscle definition
Good lower body strength
Elite junior year production
Very active; above average motor
Nice second effort
Good agility
Takes on multiple blockers; run clogger
Highly athletic
Grades out well in chase (pursuit) tackling
Disengages from linemen to make tackles
Powerful
Collapses pocket
Backfield penetrator
Good instincts
Explosive off snap
Great leadership and reportedly solid work ethic
Solid all-around skill set
Good amount of upside
Versatile; can play 1-, 3-, and 5-techniques.
Weaknesses:
Occasionally gets too high in stance; leads to being washed
Leverage technique could be more consistent
Could develop more of a pass-rush repertoire
Multiple knee injuries and surgeries
One-year wonder?
Summary: Suh is an outstanding prospect for the 2010 NFL Draft class because there is so much to like about him. He can play in multiple schemes, which NFL general managers love. His durability could end up being a huge problem dependent on doctors' reviews at NFL Combine like Glenn Dorsey. If he can stay healthy and keep the production up as a senior, he should be a first-round lock. Name pronounced IN-DOM-AH-KEN SOO. "Ndamukong" means "House of Spears" in a Cameroon language.
Player Comparison: Richard Seymour. Seymour and Suh have that great length, explosiveness, and strength that you want in a defensive tackle with the ability to play various schemes.
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first round projection or what? can we get him in round 2?
once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy -
first round projection or what? can we get him in round 2?
first round projection or what? can we get him in round 2?
Kiper has him in his top three behind Bradford and Berry. He's a first round projection.
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Did anybody see Mizzou vs. Nebraska last night? This guy was all over the place, I would really like to here Alo's thought's on this guy. Here is a scouting report on him.
Ndamukong Suh, 6-4/305
Defensive Tackle Nebraska
Ndamukong Suh Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths:
Very big frame
Outstanding muscle definition
Good lower body strength
Elite junior year production
Very active; above average motor
Nice second effort
Good agility
Takes on multiple blockers; run clogger
Highly athletic
Grades out well in chase (pursuit) tackling
Disengages from linemen to make tackles
Powerful
Collapses pocket
Backfield penetrator
Good instincts
Explosive off snap
Great leadership and reportedly solid work ethic
Solid all-around skill set
Good amount of upside
Versatile; can play 1-, 3-, and 5-techniques.
Weaknesses:
Occasionally gets too high in stance; leads to being washed
Leverage technique could be more consistent
Could develop more of a pass-rush repertoire
Multiple knee injuries and surgeries
One-year wonder?
Summary: Suh is an outstanding prospect for the 2010 NFL Draft class because there is so much to like about him. He can play in multiple schemes, which NFL general managers love. His durability could end up being a huge problem dependent on doctors' reviews at NFL Combine like Glenn Dorsey. If he can stay healthy and keep the production up as a senior, he should be a first-round lock. Name pronounced IN-DOM-AH-KEN SOO. "Ndamukong" means "House of Spears" in a Cameroon language.
Player Comparison: Richard Seymour. Seymour and Suh have that great length, explosiveness, and strength that you want in a defensive tackle with the ability to play various schemes.
Ndamukong Suh, 6-4/305
Defensive Tackle Nebraska
He's from Portland Oregon. I always wondered why he went clear the hell out to Nebraska.
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought u just slammed on the keyboard a bit.
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suh's a sure-fire top five pick. he can play DE in a 3-4 or DT in a 4-3. he's ideally suited for a 3-4 team, imo, because he can play DE on run downs, reduce inside to DT when the team lines up with a four-man front, and has the short-area speed and awareness to drop into zone coverage if he's drafted by a zone-blitz team. he can do anything you'd need a d-lineman to.
here's a longer scouting report on him.
most mocks have him going in the 3-5 range to tampa or detroit, for what it's worth. those same mocks have us taking bradford, jimmy "i look like a douchebag ostrich" clausen, or eric berry, the guy we should be taking.
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Ndamukong's undoubtedly the top senior in this year's class. And though some like Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy better, I think Suh's the #1 3-4 DE prospect.
If we don't go QB in Round 1, I'd wager that House of Spears will be our pick. As good as Berry is, I doubt Mangini forgoes the opportunity to bring in his own Richard Seymour, which is a great comparison for Suh (Seymour may be a little more athletic, but Suh plays with more tenacity).
Personally, I'd be happy with Suh, Berry, or McCoy. I'd rate all three higher than Aaron Curry, which shows how talent-rich next year's draft will be.
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first round projection or what? can we get him in round 2?
first round projection or what? can we get him in round 2?
UH, I heard Mel Kiper this morning say that he could actually be the #1 overall pick in next year's draft, so no, it ain't likely he would be around in the second round. I would like to see the Browns get a shot at him with their first round pick.
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I watched the game last night, and this guy is the best DL to come along in a long time. In spite of the fact that Missouri double & triple-teamed him most of the night, he had two sacks (1 officially, but the other was overturned by a bogus hands to the face penalty), 1 FF, 1 Int., and just blew up the run all night. When he wasn't getting sacks or ints., he was harassing the QB all night. It was amazing to see how he manhandled 300+ lb. offensive linemen like they were nothing.
He has incredible strength, tenacity, quickness, and a feel for where the play is going, & arrives at the ball in a very bad mood.
This is a player who would be a double threat for the Browns. They need help stopping the run, and a demon pass rusher. This guy would come in & help shut down both the pass & run, and would be the disruptive force they need alongside Shaun Rogers. He would also free up the LBs to be the playmakers they are supposed to be in this scheme.
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I thought of Alo when watching the game last night since he has been talking about him for quite some time on here. I was very impressed. Now that is a football player Wow. Fun to watch.
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
I doubt we draft a QB. JMO
Bet $20 on it?
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
I doubt we draft a QB. JMO
Bet $20 on it?
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A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
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Sorry guys but No DL in the first round our in any next year.....that is the position on this team we have too much depth at! LB's, safeties, Rb's Rt's Rg's YES YES Yes after the QB!
Sorry guys but No DL in the first round our in any next year.....that is the position on this team we have too much depth at! LB's, safeties, Rb's Rt's Rg's YES YES Yes after the QB!
LOL. We don't. Coleman and Smith are 2 down lineman. Mosley(hey, I remember his name!!) and Williams(vastly overpaid Williams) are 3rd down lineman.
Listen, we need a fulltime starter at least at one of the DE spots. While it may not happen, it is a need and if somebody like McCoy would drop to the 7-8 spots in the draft(I doubt Sah does), you would be nuts to pass on him.
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If we dont draft DL in the 1st round, i hope its because we got J. Peppers or Aaron Kampman via free agency. I know they are both 29, but i think they could still be badass for the next 4 years.
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A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
Here's a scouting report on McCoy:
Gerald McCoy, 6-4/295 Defensive Tackle Oklahoma
Gerald McCoy Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths:
Impressive size
Cut athlete with good muscle definition
Elite-level athleticism
Explosive off snap
Impressive instincts
Shows ability to disengage quickly
Great lateral agility
Grades out highly with chase tackles
Good vision; finds ballcarrier
Strong; active hands
Penetrates well; knows how to get under a lineman
Displays good pad level
Nice speed; plays fast
Wide pass rush repertoire
Shows good balance and coordination; flexible athlete
Quick hips
Adequate upper body strength
Very good motor and stamina
Durable
Great intangibles and work ethic
Prototype three-technique
Weaknesses:
Lacks some bulk to be a two-gap defensive tackle
Not a fit for every scheme
Not an elite run defender
Struggles against massive offensive linemen against run
Not overly powerful
Summary: McCoy is an amazing prospect and simply great at what he is - a three technique. He isn't going to be Vince Wilfork, and 3-4 teams won't target him. He will fit most 4-3 schemes looking for an elite pass rusher and someone who can disrupt opponents' backfields. He has elite intangibles and should be a definite top-10 pick. McCoy is my No. 1 defensive tackle for the 2010 NFL Draft.
Player Comparison: Kevin Williams. Williams is one of the elite defensive tackles in the NFL with his athleticism, instincts and pass-rush ability.
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I'd go with Suh if he's available. He's special, been that way since forever, not a flash in the pan surrounded by a good team or system (which can happen with QBs). He will be a stud in the NFL. If he could have qualified for the NFL draft out of highschool, he'd have gone somewhere.
I know a lot of you guys are wishing for the "franchise" QB, but a disruptive/dominant lineman can have a big effect on a game even if there aren't stats to show it. If Suh or another of his caliber are available...go for it. A strong D and O line can go a long long way towards success, once you've got that you can do pretty good with any decent QB, then focus on finding THE guy.
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I'd like to see how these guys finish the season, theres alot of football left.
Your better players will maintain their dominance the whole season.
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