Ndamukong Suh
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I watched the game last night, and this guy is the best DL to come along in a long time. In spite of the fact that Missouri double & triple-teamed him most of the night, he had two sacks (1 officially, but the other was overturned by a bogus hands to the face penalty), 1 FF, 1 Int., and just blew up the run all night. When he wasn't getting sacks or ints., he was harassing the QB all night. It was amazing to see how he manhandled 300+ lb. offensive linemen like they were nothing.
He has incredible strength, tenacity, quickness, and a feel for where the play is going, & arrives at the ball in a very bad mood.
This is a player who would be a double threat for the Browns. They need help stopping the run, and a demon pass rusher. This guy would come in & help shut down both the pass & run, and would be the disruptive force they need alongside Shaun Rogers. He would also free up the LBs to be the playmakers they are supposed to be in this scheme.
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I thought of Alo when watching the game last night since he has been talking about him for quite some time on here. I was very impressed. Now that is a football player Wow. Fun to watch.
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
I doubt we draft a QB. JMO
Bet $20 on it?
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Boyz boyz boyz....As much as I'd love this guy....We will go QB....regardless of which Defensive player we'd love to get....so get on board and back the Qb we take. this is the seeds of QB controversy....i.e. I wanted this "guy" and they took a Qb... so To be right...the Qb must be wrong. i'd love to know how many of the Tim Couch haters"wanted the trade out or Ricky williams or someone else.. fueled the holcomb debate...how many frye haters fueled the anderson debate and how many quinn haters fueled the Anderson debate......I know there is a corelation.
We will Draft a franchise Qb, so get on board. If not you'll just be fuel.
I doubt we draft a QB. JMO
Bet $20 on it?
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A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
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Sorry guys but No DL in the first round our in any next year.....that is the position on this team we have too much depth at! LB's, safeties, Rb's Rt's Rg's YES YES Yes after the QB!
Sorry guys but No DL in the first round our in any next year.....that is the position on this team we have too much depth at! LB's, safeties, Rb's Rt's Rg's YES YES Yes after the QB!
LOL. We don't. Coleman and Smith are 2 down lineman. Mosley(hey, I remember his name!!) and Williams(vastly overpaid Williams) are 3rd down lineman.
Listen, we need a fulltime starter at least at one of the DE spots. While it may not happen, it is a need and if somebody like McCoy would drop to the 7-8 spots in the draft(I doubt Sah does), you would be nuts to pass on him.
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If we dont draft DL in the 1st round, i hope its because we got J. Peppers or Aaron Kampman via free agency. I know they are both 29, but i think they could still be badass for the next 4 years.
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A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
A top 1-5 pick like Suh or McCoy will satisfy the Browns greatly. A QB would as well. The draft is way to far away to make any determination. Things will change.
Though, I would take McCoy right now because Coleman/(forgot his name from the jets) sorta have the "Suh" role down. McCoy could replace Smith and give the weakside a strong boost of athleticism we badly need. McCoy also plays better in space than Suh.
Here's a scouting report on McCoy:
Gerald McCoy, 6-4/295 Defensive Tackle Oklahoma
Gerald McCoy Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire
Strengths:
Impressive size
Cut athlete with good muscle definition
Elite-level athleticism
Explosive off snap
Impressive instincts
Shows ability to disengage quickly
Great lateral agility
Grades out highly with chase tackles
Good vision; finds ballcarrier
Strong; active hands
Penetrates well; knows how to get under a lineman
Displays good pad level
Nice speed; plays fast
Wide pass rush repertoire
Shows good balance and coordination; flexible athlete
Quick hips
Adequate upper body strength
Very good motor and stamina
Durable
Great intangibles and work ethic
Prototype three-technique
Weaknesses:
Lacks some bulk to be a two-gap defensive tackle
Not a fit for every scheme
Not an elite run defender
Struggles against massive offensive linemen against run
Not overly powerful
Summary: McCoy is an amazing prospect and simply great at what he is - a three technique. He isn't going to be Vince Wilfork, and 3-4 teams won't target him. He will fit most 4-3 schemes looking for an elite pass rusher and someone who can disrupt opponents' backfields. He has elite intangibles and should be a definite top-10 pick. McCoy is my No. 1 defensive tackle for the 2010 NFL Draft.
Player Comparison: Kevin Williams. Williams is one of the elite defensive tackles in the NFL with his athleticism, instincts and pass-rush ability.
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I'd go with Suh if he's available. He's special, been that way since forever, not a flash in the pan surrounded by a good team or system (which can happen with QBs). He will be a stud in the NFL. If he could have qualified for the NFL draft out of highschool, he'd have gone somewhere.
I know a lot of you guys are wishing for the "franchise" QB, but a disruptive/dominant lineman can have a big effect on a game even if there aren't stats to show it. If Suh or another of his caliber are available...go for it. A strong D and O line can go a long long way towards success, once you've got that you can do pretty good with any decent QB, then focus on finding THE guy.
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I'd like to see how these guys finish the season, theres alot of football left.
Your better players will maintain their dominance the whole season.
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I'd like to see how these guys finish the season, theres alot of football left.
Your better players will maintain their dominance the whole season.
I'd like to see how these guys finish the season, theres alot of football left.
Your better players will maintain their dominance the whole season.
and also I don't think the Browns will pick in the top 5.
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Ndamukong Suh, 6-4/305
Defensive Tackle Nebraska
He's from Portland Oregon. I always wondered why he went clear the hell out to Nebraska.
He's from Portland Oregon. I always wondered why he went clear the hell out to Nebraska.
Here's something of an explanation:
By the end of his junior year, Suh was getting scholarship offers from several Division I schools, including Oregon and Oregon State. After attending the Stanford Combine the summer before his senior year, he had offers from the entire Pacific-10 Conference, as well as Miami, Mississippi State and Nebraska.
One of the primary reasons he chose Nebraska was because of its highly regarded engineering program and the focus the athletic department has on academics for its student-athletes. In December, Suh will graduate with a bachelor's degree in construction management, completing the five-year program in four and a half.
Should football not work out, Suh could easily fall back on a number of career options, including taking over his father's equipment business in Portland.
via here.
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He's from Portland Oregon. I always wondered why he went clear the hell out to Nebraska.
Here's something of an explanation:
By the end of his junior year, Suh was getting scholarship offers from several Division I schools, including Oregon and Oregon State. After attending the Stanford Combine the summer before his senior year, he had offers from the entire Pacific-10 Conference, as well as Miami, Mississippi State and Nebraska.
One of the primary reasons he chose Nebraska was because of its highly regarded engineering program and the focus the athletic department has on academics for its student-athletes. In December, Suh will graduate with a bachelor's degree in construction management, completing the five-year program in four and a half.
Should football not work out, Suh could easily fall back on a number of career options, including taking over his father's equipment business in Portland.
via here.
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Who are some of the top corners coming out next year? We really need a big corner opposite wright that can lay a lick on somebody and help out in the rungame. Any ideas on a big physical corner in the 2nd or 3rd round?
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Who are some of the top corners coming out next year? We really need a big corner opposite wright that can lay a lick on somebody and help out in the rungame. Any ideas on a big physical corner in the 2nd or 3rd round?
nmills said:
Who are some of the top corners coming out next year? We really need a big corner opposite wright that can lay a lick on somebody and help out in the rungame. Any ideas on a big physical corner in the 2nd or 3rd round?Eric Berry, Tennessee and Taylor Mays of USC are top DBs, but they may be safeties.
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Who are some of the top corners coming out next year? We really need a big corner opposite wright that can lay a lick on somebody and help out in the rungame. Any ideas on a big physical corner in the 2nd or 3rd round?
nmills said:
Who are some of the top corners coming out next year? We really need a big corner opposite wright that can lay a lick on somebody and help out in the rungame. Any ideas on a big physical corner in the 2nd or 3rd round?Some possibilities:
- Joe Haden, Florida (5'11", 190 lbs.)*
- Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest (6'0", 190 lbs.)
- Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State (6'0", 198 lbs.)
- Kareem Jackson, Alabama (5'11", 192 lbs.)*
- Donovan Warren, Michigan (6'0", 185 lbs.)*
- Jerome Murphy, South Florida (6'1", 185 lbs.)
- Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA) (6'1", 195 lbs.)
- Patrick Robinson, Florida State (5'11", 194 lbs.)
Also, there are smaller corners who will get drafted high: guys like Kentucky's Trevard Lindley (5'11", 180 lbs.) and Cal's Syd'Quan Thompson (5'9", 191 lbs.). Not sure either one's a good fit for what we need: though Lindley does have borderline shutdown corner potential, he isn't a consistent tackler.
* denotes underclassman
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Good stuff in this thread guys..it sucks that we are so into the draft in sept/october and soo much will change in the next month or two...but one thing will not sway me...and i know we need a QB but Suh is the one..we gotta make that happen
i do not feel as strong about Mccoy DE (Oklahoma) not mccoy QB (texas)...
ALO..you think they draft QB in round 2? if so who do you project still hanging around
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