We Won
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I'm jacked. We won.
Team played hard as hell.
Wimbley: Another sack.
Rogers: Center/Guard for Buffalo will be having nightmares for weeks. He threw them around like ragdolls.
EWright: Shut out TO in the 2nd half and a fantastic job of coverage on his INT.
OLine: Wow, stud play. As DA said in his post game interview, they faced 8 in the box nearly all game and STILL opened holes.
Jamal Lewis: Ran with an attitude today.
Zastidil (sp?): MVP. Our punter won the game today.
Cribbs: Sans a drop (that would have changed nothing as he was double covered on the 2 yard play) had another fantastic game. The 31 yard run was great to watch.
Great to get a win!
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^^^Thats how we should be thinking.
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BUT WE STILL SUCKED UP THE PLACE!
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BUT WE STILL SUCKED UP THE PLACE!
BUT WE STILL SUCKED UP THE PLACE!
We should place bets on when Jauron is fired.
Then we can follow up with a pool on how long Mangini lasts.
The was a win by attrition, I think. We'll see if winning is contagious or if it is really about the players, coaching, and gameplanning/execution.
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SUPERBOWL!
SUPERBOWL!
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Can the Browns stop the Steeler Football Machine?
If they lose it will be Modell's fault for taking Ozzie Newsome to Baltimore in 1996.
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Jauron will be fired by the end of the season if not earlier unless a major turn around happens
Mangenius will be here for a very long time
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Gotta say, most Browns fans have re-earned my respect. With the exception of one thread I saw here where someone was predicting a playoff run this season most Browns fans know that when you can just eek out 6 points against the Buffalo Bills - a team that truly IS trying to lose to get their Coach fired (I don't think the Browns are doing that - YET) at BEST you're just a step above an NFL embarrassment.
Truly it may be the best thing for Lerner to tell Mangini that he DOES have job security for the next several years, coax him to play rookies and subs to see what type of depth he has on the team right now, and then fire his ass in the off season when some decent coaches might be available.
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Ok it was ugly, matter of fact it was hideous, but it was a WIN. We were 3 points better than the bills this week. That is all there is to be said. We won. 1-4 isn't anything to brag about but we aren't the Chiefs, Rams, or Raiders. Can we please be happy that we are out of the Offer column? Sometimes you win by offense, sometimes by defense, and today through special teams. Stop posting stats or complaining, we won! What BQ would have won by 7, 10 or 14? Can we please just celebrate it because it isn't going to happen often this year!
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Sorry, but I get little comfort from this win.. I said this before.. If this team is rebuilding..which it is.. What does it gain us to play and DA win one or two more games and get no growth out of the QB position. DA has shown he is unable to learn from his mistakes. He is making the same mistakes he made last year and from game to game.. DA actually is sucking worse the more he plays.
With Quinn we at least have a guy who I believe will learn from his mistakes and improve.. Quinn looked very good in his limited starts last year.. He did not suddenly forget how to play football. I am not sure what happened at the beginning of this year..But if we are to grow as a team, and develop the QB position.. we need to go with Quinn cuz DA just continues to crap his pants every week. If we want to move forward as a franchise for the future.. we need quinn in there.. If all you care about is winning 2 or 3 games this year and sucking again next year too..then DA is your guy.
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Mangini is a defensive minded coach, he knows just the threat of DA's arm will stretch the defenses. Quinn doesn't scare anyone with his arm so the defenses stack the box snuffing out even our running game. I don't think eithe qb is our future but I think I prefer watching a game with DA in it.
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Exactly ....baby steps..learn how to win..even when its damn ugly...its contagious!!!!!
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Mangini is a defensive minded coach, he knows just the threat of DA's arm will stretch the defenses. Quinn doesn't scare anyone with his arm so the defenses stack the box snuffing out even our running game. I don't think eithe qb is our future but I think I prefer watching a game with DA in it.
Mangini is a defensive minded coach, he knows just the threat of DA's arm will stretch the defenses. Quinn doesn't scare anyone with his arm so the defenses stack the box snuffing out even our running game. I don't think eithe qb is our future but I think I prefer watching a game with DA in it.
The box was stacked today and BUF CBs were on a island all day. Don't let the fact that CLE ran all over BUF slightly crappier than CLE's rush defense, that features LBs that are from the bottom of BUF's depth chart, fool you into BUF respected DA's arm.
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Can the Browns stop the Steeler Football Machine?
If they lose it will be Modell's fault for taking Ozzie Newsome to Baltimore in 1996.
Can the Browns stop the Steeler Football Machine?
If they lose it will be Modell's fault for taking Ozzie Newsome to Baltimore in 1996.
The Browns stand a better chance of stopping the Steelers than Baltimore does of stopping the Bengals. How the hell did you guys lose to a team who needed overtime to defeat us when we are rock bottom ? Man that has to be the height of suckitude ! For all your stud players you lost to the Bengals ... oh the shame ... agony agony ...
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question is with Diaboli (or how ever you spell the OC's name) other then horrible, maybe he is not calling the plays to let Quinn go downtown some, I mean he has a NFL arm, not a DA arm but enough to get the box unstacked.
“What Can BROWN Do For You!” Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division. -
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question is with Diaboli (or how ever you spell the OC's name) other then horrible, maybe he is not calling the plays to let Quinn go downtown some, I mean he has a NFL arm, not a DA arm but enough to get the box unstacked.
question is with Diaboli (or how ever you spell the OC's name) other then horrible, maybe he is not calling the plays to let Quinn go downtown some, I mean he has a NFL arm, not a DA arm but enough to get the box unstacked.
true .... see these are questions that the coaches should be answering. We can not go into our future games without a passing game. JL or JH or whoever is going to get snuffed ! having said that we as fans can only support our team so, go DA ... go Browns !
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@planet-0range said:
The Browns somehow found a way to win but also regress.FACT: DA has a better starting offensive line than Quinn did, which is helping the running AND passing game
FACT: Even though DA has a better line and running game, Quinn has thrown for more yards than DA in the same amount of time, with less pass attempts and a much better QBR
FACT: No way in hell would Quinn have gone 2 for 17 with a pick and 22 yards.
FACT: DA is slow as hell, and although he may be able to release the ball quick enough to avoid the sack, he cannot equate the rush into positive yards with his feet
FACT: Brady Quinn has had waaaay less experience and NFL starts than DA
FACT: Planet Orange has swalloed more loads from Brady Quinns dickhead then any cocksuccker on the planet
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