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  • the funny thing is that, now that we almost have the personnel to make the 3-4 work, people are bitching about it and wanting to abandon it.

    yes, it takes specific athletes who are often in short supply. however, there are only 5-10 elite pass rushers in the NFL anyway. what's missing from our defense is creative schemes. pittsburgh creates pressure all the time just by how they scheme. yes, they also draft well, but savage has given us 2 OLBs who could rush the passer if they were well-coached in wimbley (who just needs to be told what to do and made to spend some time getting stronger) and hall, who's already shown flashes, and someone who can man the middle in d'qwell, as evidenced by his leading the league in tackles.

    could we use another quality linebacker? yes. to run the 3-4, you really need 6 quality linebackers, 5 at the bare minimum. however, i know that our main problem is the scheme, not the players. they're not being put in position to make plays or succeed. aggression is the key to winning on defense and our coaching staff is passive. it's that mentality that is strangling our D.

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    the 3-4 just needs to be dropped. This FO seems unable to get the proper personnell even after 4 years. the 3-4 needs almost perfect personnell to thrive.

    Is it the personal, or the coaches.

    See SD with Wade Philips as DC and Marty as HC. Now see them with Norv Turner at HC and formally Cotrell as DC.

    And remember what happened to PITs 3-4 when Lebeau left them for those few years.

  • good point. maybe the problem is a little bit of both.

    :neutral_face:

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    good point. maybe the problem is a little bit of both.

    I am sure there is both. But if I had to weight it, I'd say 70% coaching and 30% players. I don't believe the D can show up for halves and some games, and say the players are the biggest issue at this point.

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    Gee another good discusion with no sign of Lum/Stan or Sev....but yeah, we only talk about BQ....

    nice job bringing up BQ, JADF.

    The plan before the season was to start Robaire. Him going to IR was a pretty big blow.

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    The plan before the season was to start Robaire. Him going to IR was a pretty big blow.

    Sure, but Williams was to start opposite Robaire. They didn't pay him and ship a 2nd rounder to have him rush "situationally."

    Though this seems what he is best suited for. Oh well.

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    Gee another good discusion with no sign of Lum/Stan or Sev....but yeah, we only talk about BQ....

    nice job bringing up BQ, JADF.

    The plan before the season was to start Robaire. Him going to IR was a pretty big blow.

    It was to be Robaire on one side and Williams on the other, with Roger at NT. You know, the lineup the put out there week one against DAL?

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    Thanks Stan

    how did you know my name is Stan?

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    Gee another good discusion with no sign of Lum/Stan or Sev....but yeah, we only talk about BQ....

    nice job bringing up BQ, JADF.

    The plan before the season was to start Robaire. Him going to IR was a pretty big blow.

    It was to be Robaire on one side and Williams on the other, with Roger at NT. You know, the lineup the put out there week one against DAL?

    Yep, that's what i just said. Nice work masterbater

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    nice job bringing up BQ, JADF.

    The plan before the season was to start Robaire. Him going to IR was a pretty big blow.

    Yep, that's what i just said. Nice work masterbater

    Uh huh.... that is what you just said......where everything is about Corey Williams (save JADBF entertaining jab) and your input is what's above. Yup, that what you just said.

  • Corey Williams would be fine if the linebackers behind him could tackle and avoid pancake blocks.

    When Corey Williams went out against Baltimore, that's when Ray Rice went crazy.

    When Rogers AND Williams are in together, the defensive line plays decently. there are still some big plays but that is mostly on the linebackers (See Wimbley, Andra Davis and Willie McGinest.)

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    Good post and welcome.

    No...if you don't have good backers....you have the Browns version of a 3-4.

    very well put it's not really his job to stop the run as much as it is his job to eat up blockers so the lonebackers can stop the run. Our linebackers tho some are promising just seem to suck. Could it just be defensive play calling? I'd like to think so but on either end i say.. Corey williams great pick-up. This year we'll have a draft to work with to get some real impact talent.

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