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  • TN Browns BackerT TN Browns Backer

    I feel like everyone could have a rant post like this concerning Mangini. While I do not support Mangini, I do think Daboll is partially to blame (especially the 4th and 1 call yesterday) and every offensive play.

    Either way, this next month will tell us if Lerner is concerned with winning or finances, and from two perspectives: If he plays Quinn and maybe gets passed the 11 million dollar bonus possibility, and if he fires Mangini. If he does both of these, it shows Lerner TRULY cares despite owing Savage and Romeo money already. Not saying I think Mangini should be fired mid-season (although Ryan probably would only improve the team) but Daboll needs fired too in that situation. Either way, we are going to learn A LOT about our organization and the front office here in the next month and for once im excited about something concerning the Browns, even if it is something as sad as our front office haha

    @tn-browns-backer said:

    I feel like everyone could have a rant post like this concerning Mangini. While I do not support Mangini, I do think Daboll is partially to blame (especially the 4th and 1 call yesterday) and every offensive play.

    Either way, this next month will tell us if Lerner is concerned with winning or finances, and from two perspectives: If he plays Quinn and maybe gets passed the 11 million dollar bonus possibility, and if he fires Mangini. If he does both of these, it shows Lerner TRULY cares despite owing Savage and Romeo money already. Not saying I think Mangini should be fired mid-season (although Ryan probably would only improve the team) but Daboll needs fired too in that situation. Either way, we are going to learn A LOT about our organization and the front office here in the next month and for once im excited about something concerning the Browns, even if it is something as sad as our front office haha

    I'll differ from you in one respect. At this point, with the season lost, letting Quinn earn his salary escalators would hurt his trade value even more than it has been already (teams know that the Browns have all but cut ties with him and he won't be back).... so its more than money at stake...

    Giving him $11 million to ensure he has absolutely no trade value would be really stupid. It was stupid for Mangini to say he'd stand by the winner of the QB competition and then pull the plug after 2 games in the first place, but there's not much that can be done about that now.

    By putting the team in DA's hands they also killed Anderson's trade value too

    I think the best thing they could do is fire Mangini and Daboll mid-season and put the team in the interim hands of Rob Ryan as even though the Jets are struggling I think most people appreciate the energy Rex Ryan has brought to that program and free agents might look at Cleveland a bit differently knowing that changes are being made (even if Rob Ryan isn't given the actual job after the season).

    Credit the fans in Cleveland for not accepting the status quo... Lerner wouldn't be considering any changes if it weren't for them.

  • D DawgTracker

    If the Browns fire mangini he will end up taking a different team to the superbowl imho. Has that ever happened to the browns before because they had knee jerk reactions?

    @dawgtracker said:

    If the Browns fire mangini he will end up taking a different team to the superbowl imho. Has that ever happened to the browns before because they had knee jerk reactions?

    Not a chance, the man is too domineering to ever assemble a talented set of coordinators around himself, and is not nearly genius enough to manage it all on his own. The only SB that ass clown is going to win is by playing Madden

  • D DawgTracker

    If the Browns fire mangini he will end up taking a different team to the superbowl imho. Has that ever happened to the browns before because they had knee jerk reactions?

    @dawgtracker said:

    If the Browns fire mangini he will end up taking a different team to the superbowl imho. Has that ever happened to the browns before because they had knee jerk reactions?

    chris palmer no

    butch davis no

    romeo wherefore art thou romeo umm that would be a no

  • F flipflop

    @dawgtracker said:

    If the Browns fire mangini he will end up taking a different team to the superbowl imho. Has that ever happened to the browns before because they had knee jerk reactions?

    chris palmer no

    butch davis no

    romeo wherefore art thou romeo umm that would be a no

    @flipflop said:

    chris palmer no

    butch davis no

    romeo wherefore art thou romeo umm that would be a no

    you forgot Marty

  • N neohionative

    @flipflop said:

    chris palmer no

    butch davis no

    romeo wherefore art thou romeo umm that would be a no

    you forgot Marty

    @neohionative said:

    you forgot Marty

    terry robiskie too..any other interim coaches i havent thought of

  • GET HIM OUTTA HERE!!!

  • P Pissedinmedina

    Everyone says we suck due to the lack of talent on the team. Yet when we get talent like K2 and Edwards, Mangina can't manage the egos. If he thinks he can just draft his way to success, he's wrong. Top talent always comes with egos, dynamic personalities, and they require the head coach to address and manage the issues that tend to follow top players. This fat-ass will always be a ball boy to me. He set this franchise back another 6 years, and no good free agent will even consider Cleveland. Eric Mangina should be working for the government where his dysfunction can be best served. Hey ERIC - Please resign, we beg you. Your player fines, personnel choices (DA worse QB EVER) and lack of general understanding of how to manage a professional football team are painful to watch. You are making me embarrassed to be a Cleveland Brown fan, and I am putting any team support on hold until you are removed from this position. Best of luck selling used cars. Maybe you will get another sucker like Randy Lerner to buy into your bullshit and actually sell a car. Please resign, we can’t not watch you continue destroying this franchise.

    @pissedinmedina said:

    Everyone says we suck due to the lack of talent on the team. Yet when we get talent like K2 and Edwards, Mangina can't manage the egos. If he thinks he can just draft his way to success, he's wrong. Top talent always comes with egos, dynamic personalities, and they require the head coach to address and manage the issues that tend to follow top players. This fat-ass will always be a ball boy to me. He set this franchise back another 6 years, and no good free agent will even consider Cleveland. Eric Mangina should be working for the government where his dysfunction can be best served. Hey ERIC - Please resign, we beg you. Your player fines, personnel choices (DA worse QB EVER) and lack of general understanding of how to manage a professional football team are painful to watch. You are making me embarrassed to be a Cleveland Brown fan, and I am putting any team support on hold until you are removed from this position. Best of luck selling used cars. Maybe you will get another sucker like Randy Lerner to buy into your bullshit and actually sell a car. Please resign, we can’t not watch you continue destroying this franchise.

    I'd be embarassed if I were you too.

  • Everybody talks about the lack of talent...and we are lacking talent. However, we are not playing well in any facet of the game. This is more than just a lack of talent. Less talented teams can beat a more talented team by proper execution and playing smart assignment football. We have been awful at just about everything. We are lacking talent sure, but we do not play smart football, have not progressed (our offense has somewhat regressed...I didn't even think that was possible), just no passion, etc.

    There is more going on here than just a lack of talent. We are not a team. We are playing in synch. Our issues seem to stem from the entire lack of a strategy from the top down.

  • Sorry, the same sources that reported Kokinis was fired are also reporting that Mangini is safe.

    :neutral_face:
  • P Pissedinmedina

    Everyone says we suck due to the lack of talent on the team. Yet when we get talent like K2 and Edwards, Mangina can't manage the egos. If he thinks he can just draft his way to success, he's wrong. Top talent always comes with egos, dynamic personalities, and they require the head coach to address and manage the issues that tend to follow top players. This fat-ass will always be a ball boy to me. He set this franchise back another 6 years, and no good free agent will even consider Cleveland. Eric Mangina should be working for the government where his dysfunction can be best served. Hey ERIC - Please resign, we beg you. Your player fines, personnel choices (DA worse QB EVER) and lack of general understanding of how to manage a professional football team are painful to watch. You are making me embarrassed to be a Cleveland Brown fan, and I am putting any team support on hold until you are removed from this position. Best of luck selling used cars. Maybe you will get another sucker like Randy Lerner to buy into your bullshit and actually sell a car. Please resign, we can’t not watch you continue destroying this franchise.

    @pissedinmedina said:

    Everyone says we suck due to the lack of talent on the team. Yet when we get talent like K2 and Edwards, Mangina can't manage the egos. If he thinks he can just draft his way to success, he's wrong. Top talent always comes with egos, dynamic personalities, and they require the head coach to address and manage the issues that tend to follow top players. This fat-ass will always be a ball boy to me. He set this franchise back another 6 years, and no good free agent will even consider Cleveland. Eric Mangina should be working for the government where his dysfunction can be best served. Hey ERIC - Please resign, we beg you. Your player fines, personnel choices (DA worse QB EVER) and lack of general understanding of how to manage a professional football team are painful to watch. You are making me embarrassed to be a Cleveland Brown fan, and I am putting any team support on hold until you are removed from this position. Best of luck selling used cars. Maybe you will get another sucker like Randy Lerner to buy into your bullshit and actually sell a car. Please resign, we can’t not watch you continue destroying this franchise.

    I don't think Mangini is the answer. However, BE was and is overrated by many Browns fans (look what we got for him), and nothing more than a career tease. He's not worth his salary and he wasn't going to resign here anyway. That water has passed under the bridge. K2 has bad knees and wanted a new deal, one I think the Browns were right not to give him. They basically got one good year out of him and paid him how much?

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