Mangini what are you doing?
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Harrison is in there on passing downs as a check down option and tool to keep LBs honest. You don't want Vickers back there because no LB is going to hesitate to blitz because Vickers may leak out and scorch you. Harrison's role is to give the defense one more very minor thing to consider on 3rd and 6 and perhaps buy the QB and extra second to look over the field and that's all he is good for.
And I really can't believe you said to give Harrison and Vickers the ball more.
Nah, your right, lets just feed Jamal the ball more, instead of the guy that put up 130 yards the last time we face the same team.
That makes more sense. You know we aren't really trying to win the game, so lets bench the guy that moved the ball last time. Let's play for that loss so we can get stuck with the #1 draft choice and not be able to trade down out of it.
Our offense is lighting up the field all over the place using the players we have, so there really is no sense in wasting plays and time trying to find other players on the roster that can make something happen. Our passing game is great and it keeps the offense on the field for a long time and gives our defense a chance to rest up. Running the ball and tiring out their defense makes no sense.
Nah lets just ride this vehicle deeper and deeper into the black hole by doing the exact same things we have been doing.
Ya, Harrison isn't going to be a feature back in this league you'll get no argument from me there, so just give him his two touches a game and put him on ice. On that thought, the Chargers that are coming into town might as well cut Darren Sproles now. He can't carry the load for a full game, so dump him.
Ah yes, and Harrison might scare me as a linebacker on the 3rd down play you mentioned, if he EVER released and leaked out of the backfield. I'll I'm going to see him as is a 180 pound speed bump on my way to the QB.
I've watched Vickers release out of the backfield and make better catches than our great WR core. Then run over 2 CB's after the catch. Not to mention the fact that if I'm a linebacker, I'm going to at least have to make a move to get by Vickers, because there is no way I'm going to bull rush him.
Nah, your right, lets just feed Jamal the ball more, instead of the guy that put up 130 yards the last time we face the same team.
That makes more sense. You know we aren't really trying to win the game, so lets bench the guy that moved the ball last time. Let's play for that loss so we can get stuck with the #1 draft choice and not be able to trade down out of it.
Our offense is lighting up the field all over the place using the players we have, so there really is no sense in wasting plays and time trying to find other players on the roster that can make something happen. Our passing game is great and it keeps the offense on the field for a long time and gives our defense a chance to rest up. Running the ball and tiring out their defense makes no sense.
Nah lets just ride this vehicle deeper and deeper into the black hole by doing the exact same things we have been doing.
Ya, Harrison isn't going to be a feature back in this league you'll get no argument from me there, so just give him his two touches a game and put him on ice. On that thought, the Chargers that are coming into town might as well cut Darren Sproles now. He can't carry the load for a full game, so dump him.
Ah yes, and Harrison might scare me as a linebacker on the 3rd down play you mentioned, if he EVER released and leaked out of the backfield. I'll I'm going to see him as is a 180 pound speed bump on my way to the QB.
I've watched Vickers release out of the backfield and make better catches than our great WR core. Then run over 2 CB's after the catch. Not to mention the fact that if I'm a linebacker, I'm going to at least have to make a move to get by Vickers, because there is no way I'm going to bull rush him.
Best reply to this post tho vickers is hardly ever seen anymore and harrison is about 205. For those worried about his ypc this year has really brot thos numbers down
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129 yds on 29 carries! Let me repeat that ONE HUNDRED and TWENTY-NINE YARDS on 29 CARRIES! That is what Jerome Harrison did the the vaunted Bengels earlier in the year as the Browns gave them everything they wanted!
Present day Jerome Harrison carried the ball, ready, wait for it, 2 f&)(kin carries for 3 yrds. What the heck dude! He is the only guy to have a hundred yrd day against the bungles in what 20 some games.
Talk about getting Blackballed the guy does great things with the ball everytime he touches it. Is perfectly healthy behind a guy that is long past his prime and will not be coming back next year.
I have two theorys on Jerome's standing with Mangini
1. Mangini doesn't want to see another romeo/crennel guy blow up and carry the load.
2. Mangini is mad at Jamal Lewis for talking out against him and getting praise for it, Jerome says something along the lines that he isnt happy and he isnt going to comment on it and mangini benches him. For What missing a block yea right. Like Mangini has the balls to sit Lewis prob get beat up.
Harrison could be a playmaker but there is no way that anyone including this moron can even tell that. Check his college stats he was a monster.
GET THE GHOST THE BALL!!!!!!!
129 yds on 29 carries! Let me repeat that ONE HUNDRED and TWENTY-NINE YARDS on 29 CARRIES! That is what Jerome Harrison did the the vaunted Bengels earlier in the year as the Browns gave them everything they wanted!
Present day Jerome Harrison carried the ball, ready, wait for it, 2 f&)(kin carries for 3 yrds. What the heck dude! He is the only guy to have a hundred yrd day against the bungles in what 20 some games.
Talk about getting Blackballed the guy does great things with the ball everytime he touches it. Is perfectly healthy behind a guy that is long past his prime and will not be coming back next year.
I have two theorys on Jerome's standing with Mangini
1. Mangini doesn't want to see another romeo/crennel guy blow up and carry the load.
2. Mangini is mad at Jamal Lewis for talking out against him and getting praise for it, Jerome says something along the lines that he isnt happy and he isnt going to comment on it and mangini benches him. For What missing a block yea right. Like Mangini has the balls to sit Lewis prob get beat up.
Harrison could be a playmaker but there is no way that anyone including this moron can even tell that. Check his college stats he was a monster.
GET THE GHOST THE BALL!!!!!!!
Wasn't to far off was i guys! you know it to be true
not bad for a change of pace back or a scat back huh?
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129 yds on 29 carries! Let me repeat that ONE HUNDRED and TWENTY-NINE YARDS on 29 CARRIES! That is what Jerome Harrison did the the vaunted Bengels earlier in the year as the Browns gave them everything they wanted!
Present day Jerome Harrison carried the ball, ready, wait for it, 2 f&)(kin carries for 3 yrds. What the heck dude! He is the only guy to have a hundred yrd day against the bungles in what 20 some games.
Talk about getting Blackballed the guy does great things with the ball everytime he touches it. Is perfectly healthy behind a guy that is long past his prime and will not be coming back next year.
I have two theorys on Jerome's standing with Mangini
1. Mangini doesn't want to see another romeo/crennel guy blow up and carry the load.
2. Mangini is mad at Jamal Lewis for talking out against him and getting praise for it, Jerome says something along the lines that he isnt happy and he isnt going to comment on it and mangini benches him. For What missing a block yea right. Like Mangini has the balls to sit Lewis prob get beat up.
Harrison could be a playmaker but there is no way that anyone including this moron can even tell that. Check his college stats he was a monster.
GET THE GHOST THE BALL!!!!!!!
Wasn't to far off was i guys! you know it to be true
not bad for a change of pace back or a scat back huh?
Wasn't to far off was i guys! you know it to be true
not bad for a change of pace back or a scat back huh?
After watching JC's locker room interview, I believe there is some underlying tension between Mangini and Harrison. When Cribbs was asked if they were playing hard in order to save their coach he said "Yeah. The system works.....It's all about trusting in your coaches. Let them coach". But when Harrison was asked the same question, he kind of skirted away from answering it. He said something about playing for themselves, but he never came out and said anything about trying to keep Mangini around. I don't necessarily believe that is why he was benched, I do believe it was because of his blocking (or lack thereof), but it doesn't seem like Harrison is too happy with Mangini, either.
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Wasn't to far off was i guys! you know it to be true
not bad for a change of pace back or a scat back huh?
After watching JC's locker room interview, I believe there is some underlying tension between Mangini and Harrison. When Cribbs was asked if they were playing hard in order to save their coach he said "Yeah. The system works.....It's all about trusting in your coaches. Let them coach". But when Harrison was asked the same question, he kind of skirted away from answering it. He said something about playing for themselves, but he never came out and said anything about trying to keep Mangini around. I don't necessarily believe that is why he was benched, I do believe it was because of his blocking (or lack thereof), but it doesn't seem like Harrison is too happy with Mangini, either.
After watching JC's locker room interview, I believe there is some underlying tension between Mangini and Harrison. When Cribbs was asked if they were playing hard in order to save their coach he said "Yeah. The system works.....It's all about trusting in your coaches. Let them coach". But when Harrison was asked the same question, he kind of skirted away from answering it. He said something about playing for themselves, but he never came out and said anything about trying to keep Mangini around. I don't necessarily believe that is why he was benched, I do believe it was because of his blocking (or lack thereof), but it doesn't seem like Harrison is too happy with Mangini, either.
how can he be by all rights he should of gotten first crack at the starting rb position and a alot sooner than this year
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After watching JC's locker room interview, I believe there is some underlying tension between Mangini and Harrison. When Cribbs was asked if they were playing hard in order to save their coach he said "Yeah. The system works.....It's all about trusting in your coaches. Let them coach". But when Harrison was asked the same question, he kind of skirted away from answering it. He said something about playing for themselves, but he never came out and said anything about trying to keep Mangini around. I don't necessarily believe that is why he was benched, I do believe it was because of his blocking (or lack thereof), but it doesn't seem like Harrison is too happy with Mangini, either.
how can he be by all rights he should of gotten first crack at the starting rb position and a alot sooner than this year
how can he be by all rights he should of gotten first crack at the starting rb position and a alot sooner than this year
True. He hasn't been consistent by any means, but he still possesses the ability to break open big runs. This season he's been like DA. When he's good, he's really good, and when he's bad, he's really bad. Only, when JC is bad, he doesn't throw interceptions. JC should have been playing a lot more, Lewis should have never seen the field this year.
I can't wait to see Davis when he comes back.
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Harrison could have taken a knee at the goal line with 44 secs to go........but he is playing for himself............hell he was inactive a few weeks ago.
He is a free agent next yr so I would have run it in too........and handed the ball to Mangini and said eat me.
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Watch some of the early Browns game from this year and watch Harrison picking up the blitz..He wasn't and getting QB's stuck!..he was an unwilling blocker and Mangini had the balls to bench his ass until he commited to being a total back..which means doing everything not just some things..Apparently he came around.watch him pass block now..That shows Mangini is coaching the right way..Do it right consistently and you play..Don't you won't//Good for Harrison, he's a better NFL player thanks to coach Mangini.
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Watch some of the early Browns game from this year and watch Harrison picking up the blitz..He wasn't and getting QB's stuck!..he was an unwilling blocker and Mangini had the balls to bench his ass until he commited to being a total back..which means doing everything not just some things..Apparently he came around.watch him pass block now..That shows Mangini is coaching the right way..Do it right consistently and you play..Don't you won't//Good for Harrison, he's a better NFL player thanks to coach Mangini.
Watch some of the early Browns game from this year and watch Harrison picking up the blitz..He wasn't and getting QB's stuck!..he was an unwilling blocker and Mangini had the balls to bench his ass until he commited to being a total back..which means doing everything not just some things..Apparently he came around.watch him pass block now..That shows Mangini is coaching the right way..Do it right consistently and you play..Don't you won't//Good for Harrison, he's a better NFL player thanks to coach Mangini.
I have to agree. I've always said Harrison should see more touches, but the blocking wasnt there. You see the potential in him, and get him to perform as a complete back. Thats what I saw yesterday. However you look at it, that comes from coaching... and you have to tip your hat off to Mangini for that one. I will say this, we have three young talented backs that if we put them in a position to succeed, develop them to full potential... Harrison, Davis and Jennings is a trio that is scary. Of course we'll have to wait till next year to see exactly how good this new running regime will be.
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should have taken a knee.....he gave them a chance to tie it.....
it was a nice game, but is probably an anomaly.
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should have taken a knee.....he gave them a chance to tie it.....
it was a nice game, but is probably an anomaly.
I thought the same way at the time, and theoretically Chiefs could have scored a TD, then went for 2 to go for the win (Shanahan style), but I mean there's no guarantee we'd have scored, you never know what could have happened, what if he fumbled it the next play? What if Quinn threw it and intercepted it? What if they screwed up a FG? etc, I think it was fine.
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