Weis to Cleveland, without Mangini, could be a possibility
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Interesting article. I actually like Weis as an OC and with the right head coach it could be good. However, if Mr. Randy Lerner is planning on firing Mangini he better not hire Weis as the OC before he hires a head coach. All I have to say is hire the GM or President of football operations and let him do the hiring!!
Weis to Cleveland, without Mangini, could be a possibility
Posted by Mike Florio on December 8, 2009 5:37 AM ET
As NFL suitors line up for the services of Charlie Weis (or, possibly, as agent Bob Lamonte tries to create the impression that NFL suitors are lining up for the services of Charlie Weis), we've caught wind of a fairly surprising rumor that the Browns could be in play to land Weis as offensive coordinator.
Our first reaction (and likely yours) was that there's no way Weis would work with coach Eric Mangini, given Weis' close relationship with Patriots coach Bill Belichick and the intense hatred (if there's a stronger word to describe the emotion than hatred, then that) between Belichick and Mangini, due to Spygate and other complications.
But, as the fairly surprising rumor goes, Weis would land in Cleveland as offensive coordinator after the termination of coach Eric Mangini. There's also another fairly surprising rumor that Weis met over the weekend with owner Randy Lerner and G.M. trainee Bernie Kosar.
We're not sure what to make of it, and we're putting it out there primarily because it's an intriguing possibility.
Most intriguing about this possibility is that it would make the Browns more like the Raiders, who routinely hire assistant coaches before hiring a head coach, and then force the head coach to work with men whom the head coach possibly wouldn't have hired.
The move also would be odd because the Browns supposedly are looking to hire a big-name football executive, who presumably would have an opinion as to whether Weis should be hired, before or after a head coach is hired.
The obvious connection between the Browns and Weis comes from quarterback Brady Quinn. Weis coached Quinn at Notre Dame, making him into a guy who was regarded as one of the top picks in the 2007 draft, before he slid all the way into the 20s.
But, again, if the attraction to Weis comes from his connection to Quinn, the notion that both an offensive coordinator and a quarterback could be foisted upon a new head coach suggests that maybe the Browns should consider changing their color scheme to silver and black.
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(devils' advocate): let's blindly hire another guy that just got fired.
we would really need to explore the details why his production at ND dropped off before giving him an OC job here.
but really, who wouldn't be a step up from Dabolls?
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I like how they think that hiring him as an OC is reterded before you hire a head coach? Well, it is except that did it ever occur to anybody in the media that we DO have a head coach? Some media ball ticklers are praying for a Mangini firing and RIzzo even said today that "he won't be our coach in a month". The witchhunt for Mangini has become comical. Anyway, I think Wies here could only be a good thing.
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(devils' advocate): let's blindly hire another guy that just got fired.
we would really need to explore the details why his production at ND dropped off before giving him an OC job here.
but really, who wouldn't be a step up from Dabolls?
(devils' advocate): let's blindly hire another guy that just got fired.
we would really need to explore the details why his production at ND dropped off before giving him an OC job here.
but really, who wouldn't be a step up from Dabolls?
That's true, but....
I can't really stand college football but from what I understand their offense was excellent despite winning just 6 games or whatever. So, if he's hired to simply run the offense, I'm all for it.
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this article admits itself that it's all rumor-based fodder.
what's the point of posting this, really?
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I seriously doubt weiss would even entertain the thought of working under an idiot like mangini...there is no way in hell that happens ,it would be good though in no time we would have a cable like incident with weiss losing his job for beating the crap out of mangini...
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I seriously doubt weiss would even entertain the thought of working under an idiot like mangini...there is no way in hell that happens ,it would be good though in no time we would have a cable like incident with weiss losing his job for beating the crap out of mangini...
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this article admits itself that it's all rumor-based fodder.
what's the point of posting this, really?
this article admits itself that it's all rumor-based fodder.
what's the point of posting this, really?
Yeah what is the point? Maybe I should have posted something like : "Who are we going to draft next year" (when we do not even know what spot we will be drafting or who are GM will be) or "Lets beat a dead horse and talk about Mangini some more" or "Lets make a former browns player GM because they were great players in the 80's"
I posted it because it was Browns news on a national credited website with a very respectable writer. I know it is rumor based but I'd rather read rumors about the Browns then think about how Mangini Sucks, how Pittsburgh is going to beat us, who we will draft when were not sure where will be drafting yet.
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No thank you. We whiffed on the only good branch of the belichick tree. He is in Denver with an 8-4 record with Kyle effing Orton steering the ship.
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Firstly its written by Mike Florio..moron #1..
Rumors..not one shred of any proof or sources, This is Mike
trying to be relevant..and continuing is peresonal agenda against Mangini.
Charlie Weis is collecting 18 mill from ND
Hey Mike show me proof Eric and Charlie aren't friends..bet they are
Another BS article by the Steeler fan trying to stir the pot
Who are e playing Thursday,,OHHH..I see..weak ass attempt
at trying some sort of distraction for the Browns///punk Florio
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No thank you. We whiffed on the only good branch of the belichick tree. He is in Denver with an 8-4 record with Kyle effing Orton steering the ship.
No thank you. We whiffed on the only good branch of the belichick tree. He is in Denver with an 8-4 record with Kyle effing Orton steering the ship.
i disagree. for the last time: mcdaniels would not be doing here what he is out there. the talent isn't here. and mcdaniels hasn't proven himself yet, he's just beaten a few teams. remember mangini's first year? he beat the patriots and made it to the playoffs and had he proven himself? not even close.
weiss on the other hand has proven himself as a coordinator. he has success backinig him up and impressive resume. mangini and mcdaniels have nothing but a few upsets on theirs.
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No thank you. We whiffed on the only good branch of the belichick tree. He is in Denver with an 8-4 record with Kyle effing Orton steering the ship.
i disagree. for the last time: mcdaniels would not be doing here what he is out there. the talent isn't here. and mcdaniels hasn't proven himself yet, he's just beaten a few teams. remember mangini's first year? he beat the patriots and made it to the playoffs and had he proven himself? not even close.
weiss on the other hand has proven himself as a coordinator. he has success backinig him up and impressive resume. mangini and mcdaniels have nothing but a few upsets on theirs.
i disagree. for the last time: mcdaniels would not be doing here what he is out there. the talent isn't here. and mcdaniels hasn't proven himself yet, he's just beaten a few teams. remember mangini's first year? he beat the patriots and made it to the playoffs and had he proven himself? not even close.
weiss on the other hand has proven himself as a coordinator. he has success backinig him up and impressive resume. mangini and mcdaniels have nothing but a few upsets on theirs.
I'll say it again...Kyle Effing Orton.
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i disagree. for the last time: mcdaniels would not be doing here what he is out there. the talent isn't here. and mcdaniels hasn't proven himself yet, he's just beaten a few teams. remember mangini's first year? he beat the patriots and made it to the playoffs and had he proven himself? not even close.
weiss on the other hand has proven himself as a coordinator. he has success backinig him up and impressive resume. mangini and mcdaniels have nothing but a few upsets on theirs.
I'll say it again...Kyle Effing Orton.
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No thank you. We whiffed on the only good branch of the belichick tree. He is in Denver with an 8-4 record with Kyle effing Orton steering the ship.
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How about what is intriguing about weis is that he is a PROVEN offensive coordinator in the NFL with I believe 3 SUPER BOWL rings.... It would be foolish not to consider him for the job... I would LOVE to see him in Cleveland!
How about what is intriguing about weis is that he is a PROVEN offensive coordinator in the NFL with I believe 3 SUPER BOWL rings.... It would be foolish not to consider him for the job... I would LOVE to see him in Cleveland!
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Lerner was alittle TOO intrigued with a proven D coordinator with multiple super bowl rings- RC
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Is Weis really that good? What has he done outside of new england? Do we even know how good he was at New England?
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Interesting article. I actually like Weis as an OC and with the right head coach it could be good. However, if Mr. Randy Lerner is planning on firing Mangini he better not hire Weis as the OC before he hires a head coach. All I have to say is hire the GM or President of football operations and let him do the hiring!!
Weis to Cleveland, without Mangini, could be a possibility
Posted by Mike Florio on December 8, 2009 5:37 AM ET
As NFL suitors line up for the services of Charlie Weis (or, possibly, as agent Bob Lamonte tries to create the impression that NFL suitors are lining up for the services of Charlie Weis), we've caught wind of a fairly surprising rumor that the Browns could be in play to land Weis as offensive coordinator.
Our first reaction (and likely yours) was that there's no way Weis would work with coach Eric Mangini, given Weis' close relationship with Patriots coach Bill Belichick and the intense hatred (if there's a stronger word to describe the emotion than hatred, then that) between Belichick and Mangini, due to Spygate and other complications.
But, as the fairly surprising rumor goes, Weis would land in Cleveland as offensive coordinator after the termination of coach Eric Mangini. There's also another fairly surprising rumor that Weis met over the weekend with owner Randy Lerner and G.M. trainee Bernie Kosar.
We're not sure what to make of it, and we're putting it out there primarily because it's an intriguing possibility.
Most intriguing about this possibility is that it would make the Browns more like the Raiders, who routinely hire assistant coaches before hiring a head coach, and then force the head coach to work with men whom the head coach possibly wouldn't have hired.
The move also would be odd because the Browns supposedly are looking to hire a big-name football executive, who presumably would have an opinion as to whether Weis should be hired, before or after a head coach is hired.
The obvious connection between the Browns and Weis comes from quarterback Brady Quinn. Weis coached Quinn at Notre Dame, making him into a guy who was regarded as one of the top picks in the 2007 draft, before he slid all the way into the 20s.
But, again, if the attraction to Weis comes from his connection to Quinn, the notion that both an offensive coordinator and a quarterback could be foisted upon a new head coach suggests that maybe the Browns should consider changing their color scheme to silver and black.
Interesting article. I actually like Weis as an OC and with the right head coach it could be good. However, if Mr. Randy Lerner is planning on firing Mangini he better not hire Weis as the OC before he hires a head coach. All I have to say is hire the GM or President of football operations and let him do the hiring!!
Your comments presume (and the writer of this article concludes) that Mangini is getting fired. He isn't.
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Wasnt there a article during the offseason about Mangini or Daboll or both of them talking to Weis about Quinns strengths and play calling ideas? That doesnt sound like a guy that has a grudge againt Mangini
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