DONTE STALLWORTH
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I think everyone is forgetting the dumb ass that ran out in front of his car on a fricken causeway when donte was in the far left lane and had no where to swerve
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the problem with this case tho is that him being over the limit, high ect didn't have a bearing on him hitting the guy. the guy ran out infront of his car. the reason stallworth didn't get more time in jail was because the guy he hit should not have been crossing the road there. substitute stallworth for any other driver on the road and it woulda been the same result. if he swerved off the road, or drove through a park it would be different, but outside of dui, he was following all the traffic rules at the time, and wasn't driving outta control.
he did his time and took the punishment for his mistake. no need to go out and try and continue to tear down his life.
you honestly just said being drunk and high had absolutely no bearing on him hitting the guy? I wonder why they even charge people with DUI if it makes no difference whether or not you're impaired. I never said once the guy who died was being an idiot. I could be wrong so don't crucify me for this, but if I remember correctly it was made obvious that there was ample opportunity for him (stallworth) to either switch lanes or stop. He tried to alert him, but police officers believed his impairment caused him not to do the right thing.
You're making the situation seem like the guy jumped out in front of his car, and that's not what happened at all. As i've stated a hundred times, a regular joe would be in jail for years and years, and would have absolutely no opportunity to gain his regular job and career back. If you believe that not to be true then you are simply foolish. So why should it be any different, just because he's an NFL player?
and i've never heard one mention as to that guy leaping in front of the car as to commit suicide. if you can find a reliable article to prove me wrong, i'd be happy and eager to read it. But from everything I read, he was illegaly crossing lanes of traffic when Stallworth hit him. and guess what? thats still vehicular manslaughter, whether or not the guy is wrong.
but if I remember correctly it was made obvious that there was ample opportunity for him (stallworth) to either switch lanes or stop. He tried to alert him, but police officers believed his impairment caused him not to do the right thing.
You remember incorrectly. It was the exact opposite. Stallworth would not have been able to stop, swerve or switch lanes even if he were stone cold sober.
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He was hurt most of the season he came here. Then he gets a DUI vehicular manslaughter conviction. No thanks.
He was hurt most of the season he came here. Then he gets a DUI vehicular manslaughter conviction. No thanks.
moving on is a good thing when you have nothing
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but if I remember correctly it was made obvious that there was ample opportunity for him (stallworth) to either switch lanes or stop. He tried to alert him, but police officers believed his impairment caused him not to do the right thing.
You remember incorrectly. It was the exact opposite. Stallworth would not have been able to stop, swerve or switch lanes even if he were stone cold sober.
You remember incorrectly. It was the exact opposite. Stallworth would not have been able to stop, swerve or switch lanes even if he were stone cold sober.
i've been looking and i honestly haven't found any definitive answer either way. He claimed he "swerved as much as he could", but it's hard to say. I'm not denying Reyes was at fault here, in fact he has good blame. What i keep saying and no one will talk about is this
How is it fair that given the circumstances and the evidence that Stallworth should be given a gigantic second chance when you and I would not? No matter what part Reyes played in this, our lives would never be the same. We'd have to settle for less our entire lives. Yet because he catches a football well it's business as usual. What is fair in that?
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The uncapped year is all about dumping underachieving players without adverse salary cap consequences. Based on Stallworth's 2008 production, he's the poster boy.
If someone will give us a late round pick for him, great. Otherwise, cut him before another roster bonus is due. Edwards is gone. We don't need another club rat acting as a de facto mentor to our young receivers.
Being a third receiver to Moss and Welker, Stuckey would put up big numbers IMO. Kent State's other QB/receiver Julian Edelman is an UFA rookie who had over 100 yards receiving for the Pats yesterday when he was forced to step up in the offense. Stallworth's 2007 season with the Patriots didn't translate.
In 11 games and 7 starts he had 170 yards receiving for the Browns in 2008. That's only 60 yards more than Robiskie's disappointing rookie season with a whole lot more time on the field. I'll take my chances giving Robiskie or Stuckey that time.
Spend the $4 million or so that Stallworth would count against the cap next year on a real player (remember, Opie signed Stallworth to an absurd 7 year $35 million contract $10 million of which was guaranteed).
So, is this discussion over?
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I would say his second chance would be not going broke or going to jail for the rest of his life like any other person would do. He's just going to pick up where he left off. To me, if he get's back in the nfl it will be like he's taking one big year long vacation to be honest. Sure some people make the most out of second chances but for every one guy that does, about 100,000 dont.
For all we know that guy might of wanted to die. He seen that $300,000 car coming and darted for it knowing his family would be better off. Then again, maybe Stallworth passed out drunk and swayed left of center taking him out. None of us will ever know. We can only HOPE justice will prevail in the end.
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You remember incorrectly. It was the exact opposite. Stallworth would not have been able to stop, swerve or switch lanes even if he were stone cold sober.
i've been looking and i honestly haven't found any definitive answer either way. He claimed he "swerved as much as he could", but it's hard to say. I'm not denying Reyes was at fault here, in fact he has good blame. What i keep saying and no one will talk about is this
How is it fair that given the circumstances and the evidence that Stallworth should be given a gigantic second chance when you and I would not? No matter what part Reyes played in this, our lives would never be the same. We'd have to settle for less our entire lives. Yet because he catches a football well it's business as usual. What is fair in that?
i've been looking and i honestly haven't found any definitive answer either way. He claimed he "swerved as much as he could", but it's hard to say. I'm not denying Reyes was at fault here, in fact he has good blame. What i keep saying and no one will talk about is this
How is it fair that given the circumstances and the evidence that Stallworth should be given a gigantic second chance when you and I would not? No matter what part Reyes played in this, our lives would never be the same. We'd have to settle for less our entire lives. Yet because he catches a football well it's business as usual. What is fair in that?
There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
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i've been looking and i honestly haven't found any definitive answer either way. He claimed he "swerved as much as he could", but it's hard to say. I'm not denying Reyes was at fault here, in fact he has good blame. What i keep saying and no one will talk about is this
How is it fair that given the circumstances and the evidence that Stallworth should be given a gigantic second chance when you and I would not? No matter what part Reyes played in this, our lives would never be the same. We'd have to settle for less our entire lives. Yet because he catches a football well it's business as usual. What is fair in that?
There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
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And didn't they come to an agreement becuase he gave them so much money?
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I'm very shocked that this topic hasn't even been mentioned yet. Stallworth is elligable to play again on the Browns next season. What will the team do with him?
We need him. He is a good play maker and we really lack a #2 reciever. Will Mangini and/or Holmgren put up with what has happened off the field?
I REALLY NEED SOME RESOLUTION HERE.
I'm very shocked that this topic hasn't even been mentioned yet. Stallworth is elligable to play again on the Browns next season. What will the team do with him?
We need him. He is a good play maker and we really lack a #2 reciever. Will Mangini and/or Holmgren put up with what has happened off the field?
I REALLY NEED SOME RESOLUTION HERE.
NO WAY!!!!!
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i've been looking and i honestly haven't found any definitive answer either way. He claimed he "swerved as much as he could", but it's hard to say. I'm not denying Reyes was at fault here, in fact he has good blame. What i keep saying and no one will talk about is this
How is it fair that given the circumstances and the evidence that Stallworth should be given a gigantic second chance when you and I would not? No matter what part Reyes played in this, our lives would never be the same. We'd have to settle for less our entire lives. Yet because he catches a football well it's business as usual. What is fair in that?
There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
can you honestly, without any qualms, type back and say we would of gotten that same treatment? Honestly, do you even believe that for 1/100th of a second? Come on now, don't even pretend that's a possibility.
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There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
can you honestly, without any qualms, type back and say we would of gotten that same treatment? Honestly, do you even believe that for 1/100th of a second? Come on now, don't even pretend that's a possibility.
can you honestly, without any qualms, type back and say we would of gotten that same treatment? Honestly, do you even believe that for 1/100th of a second? Come on now, don't even pretend that's a possibility.
Maybe he means if we were in Donte's shoes. A rich football player with deep pockets. There is no way the average income person could of got off like he did. Sucks I accidentally clicked thanks when I ment to hit quote for his post lol.
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And didn't they come to an agreement becuase he gave them so much money?
And didn't they come to an agreement becuase he gave them so much money?
They came to an agreement because he chose to take responsibility for his actions. If he truly tried to fight it or buy it off, he would have gotten off completely (maybe some probation) because of the circumstances.
The money to the family was to stave off a civil suit.
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There is nothing that says we would not have gotten the same treatment under the same circumstances.
can you honestly, without any qualms, type back and say we would of gotten that same treatment? Honestly, do you even believe that for 1/100th of a second? Come on now, don't even pretend that's a possibility.
can you honestly, without any qualms, type back and say we would of gotten that same treatment? Honestly, do you even believe that for 1/100th of a second? Come on now, don't even pretend that's a possibility.
Given the unique circumstances, I absolutely do believe so.
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And didn't they come to an agreement becuase he gave them so much money?
They came to an agreement because he chose to take responsibility for his actions. If he truly tried to fight it or buy it off, he would have gotten off completely (maybe some probation) because of the circumstances.
The money to the family was to stave off a civil suit.
They came to an agreement because he chose to take responsibility for his actions. If he truly tried to fight it or buy it off, he would have gotten off completely (maybe some probation) because of the circumstances.
The money to the family was to stave off a civil suit.
So even if the average person did get off the hook, in civil court they would of lost everything they had, not to mention half they're paychecks would of went to this family for the rest of their life. So technically what I said is right, the average person would of lost everything.
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A source told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that while the financial terms of the settlement with the family have not been disclosed, Stallworth was covered by two insurance policies: a car insurance policy and a $5 million umbrella policy.
Tell me, how many five million dollar insurance policies do you have?
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They came to an agreement because he chose to take responsibility for his actions. If he truly tried to fight it or buy it off, he would have gotten off completely (maybe some probation) because of the circumstances.
The money to the family was to stave off a civil suit.
So even if the average person did get off the hook, in civil court they would of lost everything they had, not to mention half they're paychecks would of went to this family for the rest of their life. So technically what I said is right, the average person would of lost everything.
So even if the average person did get off the hook, in civil court they would of lost everything they had, not to mention half they're paychecks would of went to this family for the rest of their life. So technically what I said is right, the average person would of lost everything.
not so... have you ever looked at people who have nothing who are sued in civil court for more money than they can possibly afford? Do you know what actually happens in those situations?
If you do, educate me. I doubt it is as drastic as you claim.
But even if what you say is true, that doesn't mean they lose everything. They can still work, they can still make a living at what they do best.
What you are really bitter about, isn't the dumb choice that was made, but rather the fact that he has more wherewithall to handle the consequences. Don't hate the rich because they are rich.
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Given the unique circumstances, I absolutely do believe so.
well i'm done bringing this up to you haha. If you can really feel me, a middle class American would get the same opportunity of a multimillion dollar athlete after being convicted of DUI manslaughter, well good for you i guess. I don't care the circumstances, the facts are the facts. You simulate the situation 1,000,000 million times, 999,999 of the people get a hefty jail sentence and their lives tarnished.
That's just common sense, to think otherwise is literally crazy.
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No what bothers me is the fact that YOU think what he did was ok as long as does his time. What if it was your mother this drunk hit and killed? I bet you would be crying a different tune. You dont know me so dont act like you do fool. He earned his money and yea, thats fine with me. I wouldnt of been able to do what he did BUT, he killed a man and doesn't deserve crap IF it was his fault. IF it was his fault and that man didn't want to die, you think it's ok for him to keep doing what he's been doing. I can already tell you have a few dui's by way you talk. You even look like a drunk.
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Hundreds of thousands of people have served more jail time then he has for doing non lethal stuff. What about them? You going to tell me that a man growing his own pot deserves the same sentence as someone who gets drunk and kills a man while he just got off work trying to support his family?
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