Ray Lewis always said, if you hold a team to 21 points or less, you should win the game. Browns held us to 20.
Inept is one word (offense), and imo it shouldn't be too hard to fix. Make sure that you do, because cheering for the Browns in the playoffs would make my day. 
GL to you guys.
For one thing, I see too many Niner fans talking crap and I don't like it. Disrespectful and unnecessary. Second, there are quite a few teams expected to lose big today, and that just isn't the case. Even though the Dolphins lost, it was just barely. The Rams playing well over the Saints. Vikings playing great against the Panthers. How about the Cardinals against the Ravens?
Even thought some of those teams came back, it doesn't take away the fact that these HUGE underdogs are really playing well today. All Niner fans assuming an easy win better think twice. Any given Sunday.
GL you guys. If Niners lose, I'll make my own thread and you can dish out all the crow I can handle. I will gladly accept it.
Sorry, the only one in there that I see as quality, is Detroit. Bucs and Bengals are WAY worse then their record, Freeman has really fallen off. As for Philly, they are WAY overrated. Regardless of who you beat, we are eight weeks in and lot of you people are acting like you are the 49'ers from the 80's 90's. Not saying you cant be really happy about it, but going to other teams boards and talking trash like some people have, its laughable.
Reasonable response. IMO, the Lions aren't that good, and I think the Bengals are actually a LOT better than people think. Agreed about Freeman. And the Eagles obviously have the talent, but the coaches are coaching the wrong parts of the team. Fix the coaching = fix the problems.
Come back when you have some more quality wins
Beat the 5-0 Lions @ Detroit
Beat the 4-2 Bengals @ Cin
Beat the 4-2 Bucs by 45 points.
We beat the Eagles at Philly.
That's more quality wins than ANY team in the NFL right now.
The 49ers are favored by 9, and I put $$$ on the Niners just now, so I'm literally putting my money where my mouth is. That's how confident I am that we'll win and win big.
That doesn't mean I hate the Browns or hate the fans or city. Quite the opposite. But the Browns really aren't all that good. The closest to proof I can get are the DVOA ratings at pro football outsiders. Our offensive efficiency is 4th, defense efficiency is 4th, and special teams is 1st. Cleveland is 25, 29, and 23 respectively.
I sound like a douche. I'm just being honest.
omg... an honest Browns fan... hi!
I agree with you 100%. I even mentioned what you said as the keys to a Browns win in another thread somewhere.
Monday morning ill be here.
If we lose ill bring BBQ sauce for the crow ill be eating
I'm not going to dish any. If they came to the Niners forum to talk trash, then they would deserve it. We stepped on their turf. So either we eat our crow if we lose, or we stfu if we win. IMO of course.
My fellow Niner fans have come in here with nothing better to say other than Cleveland Sucks.
And Browns fans can only follow with the obvious SF gay jokes.
I preferred chatting with the Lions fans. They were at least adults who understood and could talk stats and scheme.
This is very true. I still post on that Lions forum. Great fans! But here, I got bashed here for saying that I believe the Niners will win, and explained why. I thought I went about it pretty respectfully, but my post was seen as insulting. Gay jokes ensued of course. I don't even live in San Fran.
However, the Niners fans here are the WORST that I've ever seen anywhere else. I was ashamed more than once. So perhaps the outlash I received was the result of previous insults by others. S'all good.
I've been waiting all week for one of you fans to make an intelligent post about your players. This is well written, and makes me fear the man that I barely know. I will be keeping my eye on him all game long. IMO, a great safety is the key to having a solid defense. Ravens, Steelers... look at the Colts when Sanders was in vs when he was out. Packers had great safeties. When the 49ers won all those Super Bowls... top safeties.
Great thread! +Respect for TJ Ward.
Delanie Walker 11 114 10.4 29 3
Walker is Ave is 2.2 catches a game....Again I follow almost every team(Its part of my job). He is in there more because your wide-outs were all hurt, and yes he is more used in the red zone. Nice Player thou.....
Delanie had more catches and yards through his first six games last year than he did this year, and our wideouts weren't hurt. We aren't using him more at all, it's the same as it always was. Also, Alex Smith doesn't throw that often. Walker has 2.2 catches because he sits behind Vernon Davis, and plays in a run-first offense.
Delanie has been praised coach after coach for years. He used to be a wide receiver in college. The dude is a beast. He has been lining up as a WR for a few years now, trying to get a linebacker to cover him to create a mismatch. DW would be a starter on most teams.
I understand if you cover every team, but true Niner fans know Delanie better than you do. I don't mean this to be offensive, but it's like I came in talking about how well I know Robiskie (sp?). I don't, and I will never claim to know any Browns player better than any fan.
I don't see anything wrong with that... the website that is.
And Pink unis? Well.... wait and see imo.
One more thing, Do Browns fans go to your board and do the samething??
Actually they did about 8 years ago. And I know this sounds petty and weird, but listen to the story:
My Niners had just KILLED the Bears in 2003. The following week was the game against the Rams, and freakin Credic Wilson caught the pass that would have setup the field goal to help us win the game and be 2-0 to start the year. But no, he's an idiot, he didn't go down, and then we have no time left on the clock to use our last timeout. We go on to lose in OT. 1-1 instead of 2-0.
The following week was the Browns at home. I remember thinking "good, we'll win this game". And out of freakin nowhere, all these Browns fans joined the forum and trolled us HARDCORE. I remember wondering why because they sucked (0-2 at that point). The game was at home and I was sure of a 49ers win. Wouldn't you know it though, there were more Browns fans in the stadium than 49ers fans for the game. I was livid. When the Browns made plays, the stadium was louder than when the 49ers made plays.
In retrospect, I realize now that there was a huge caravan of fans that came to San Fran, and they were the ones that trolled the forums. Apparently they planned that trip for months in advance.
Browns won 13-12. That game still sticks in my craw. 8 years ago. I had such high expectations for my team that year, but the OT loss, followed by a poor home crowd and loss to the Browns sealed the fate that year. I'll never forget the forums... the horror.... THE HORROR!
You should come troll us again. Would be fun.
Gee and u think the Browns were playoff calibre when Braylon was there ? look at the history and the record. Why dont u use the Jets as an example considering they are the neutral team ? Why would they let Braylon go and replace him with Burress who has nvr played in the NFL in a while ? Which NFL team in its right mind will do that ? Also after he was let go, how many NFL teams came with a contract for him ?
About the same amount that went after Carlos Rogers, who leads the league in Ints.
About the same as Ted Ginn Jr, who is an MVP candidate on special teams.
About the same as Dante Whitner, who eventually cracked the starting lineup, and is one of the reasons for our recent success with the pass D.
How many teams would have gone after Alex Smith if he didn't resign? How about 0? He's now a top 10 QB (QB rating wise).
It's all due to coaching imo. Braylon will be very motivated to perform because he's not only playing for a contract, but because he's on a winning team, coached by great coaches.
I'm not worried.
I dunno.
I've been a faithful follower since 1989. This team reminds of the great teams of the early 90s. They aren't THAT good, but they don't make mistakes, they force turnovers, and they take advantage of them.
In previous years (last 6-7), the 49ers would always find a way to blow a game, or not take advantage of something. I'm sure you Browns fans can relate since you've had similar seasons. But this year really is different. We aren't lucky. We really are good. Mistakes are rare. I still get the "oh no here it comes, we're gonna blow it" feeling... but it's never happened. Now with swagger and confidence, I really feel like this team can perform at an even higher level.
And the 10-6 record just isn't going to happen. That would mean we have to lose 5 more times. Pick 5:
Cleveland
@ Washington
Giants
Cardinals (Home & Away)
@ Ravens
Rams (Home & Away)
Steelers (Home, Monday Night)
@ Seahawks
@ Ravens is the best chance for a loss. If the Steelers can start playing at a higher level, that might be tough. But it's home and Monday Night, we should win that. Home against the Giants, and a win there gives us the lead for the bye week in the playoffs. 5 divisional games are all winable.
I'll even give you a loss to the Browns. Loss to the Ravens. And either a loss to the Steelers or Giants.
That's 12-4. I just don't see a 10-6 happening at this point.
Damn, you guys are more positive than the Lions fans. At least 1/3rd of them predicted the loss. I've seen about 1-2 people here predict it.
Niners will win. This isn't a trap game because Harbaugh has made it clear that this is a must-win game for us. Our pass defense is horrid overall, but if you look at our last few games, it's one of the tops in the league. I bet top half at the very least. Ask Stafford and Megatron how our pass defense is. Megatron got 100 yards in garbage time. We'll be OK in pass defense imo.
Special teams... if Cribbs can break one early... that's the only way I can see possible doom.
I've never seen so many disrespectful 49er fans in one place. But I don't see many respectful Browns fans either.
Game anyone? I asked about Hillis with no response. Who are the offensive players that will explode on Sunday? Defensive players?
IMO, Delanie Walker will have another big game, and of course Braylon wants this game BADLY. He will have good numbers. On defense, Chris Culliver! woot woot!
But I do not know Browns players well enough to predict who will bring it. Please advise.
It's all Harbaugh. The ONLY reason that Alex Smith is doing well (adequate really) is because of the coaching, and our ability to run the football. Insert nearly any QB in for Alex Smith, and I guarantee that you will see instant improvement. That said, Kaepernick is worse. If Alex Smith goes down, we're done. That's a fact.
The reason why we predicted so low (I posted in that thread btw) is because we have the same exact roster. We didn't go out and sign big names (a-la Eagles). We kept it in-house. And our draft was bad... or so we thought. Aldon Smith is a beast afterall. Chris Culliver is now our starting corner. We did rather well. And Carlos Rogers, former first round pick with the Redskins, is lighting it up.
It's all the coaching. I've watch every Niner game from beginning to end. I've been a fan for YEARS. I've never seen a team so motivated and play games so detailed before, especially on defense. Sure, we've had lapses at times, but they are less and less as the season goes on. We've also had an extra week to prepare for this game, and it's at home, so we're pretty confident.
I HATE the 49ers fans that join this forum just to bash a great franchise and its fans. They do not represent the true fans of my Niners.
Hey guys.
First of all, I'm very disappointed as to how my fan-brethren are treating the fans of one of the greatest franchises in history of sports. The Cleveland Browns have a history that very few teams can match. Ironically, the 49ers also have a similar history (with less success) being formed together in 1946 to make a part of the AAFC. The Browns were winners, while the 49ers were just around. We're also linked in another way. When the Browns reformed, they took so many ex-49er players that they could have been called the 49ers jr team... and that's not a compliment. We were a dismal 6-10 or 4-12 team, and I believe you were even worse that year.
I respect great Browns players such as Bernie Kosar, Marion Motley, Ozzie Newsome, Otto Graham (perhaps a top 5 QB of all-time), and Jim Brown (top 5 RB). I freakin LOVE the fan-base (right up there with the Bills imo), love the dawg pound, love the city, and you better believe I love the uniforms! This is such a great team that's suffered more than any team should suffer.
That said, it's time to talk about the game, and I do not think you are going to like what I'm about to say. Keep in mind, this is my opinion, and I reserve the right to be entirely wrong and eat crow on Sunday, which I will definitely come back for. Here we go:
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First the Browns. They are 3-3. Their 3 wins came against 2 win-less teams (Dolphins/Colts), each of which was a 1-score game. The other win was against the hapless 2-4 Seahawks, that had no RB, no QB, and no WRs. A collective 2-17 of ultra-suck. The losses aren't much better. The Browns lost to the upstart Bengals at home with a rookie QB & rookie WR, blown out by the Titans (mediocre team), and the Raiders, who lost their QB halfway through the game. All 6 teams that the Browns have played against are sub-par.
The Browns ranking on defense is wildly exaggerated in my opinion. The QBs they have faced are arguably the worst bunch 3 backup QBs, 1 rookie QB, 1 hapless QB (Henne), and an old QB that was new to his team by only a few weeks (Hasslebeck). With the exception to the Raiders, the Browns also haven't faced any decent running backs this year. The last game speaks volumes to me. The offense had the ball for 42 minutes, and managed 6 total points... could have been 12 without the blocked field goals, and could have been 28 if all scores were touchdowns. But if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass on the ground when it hops. As you can see, a 3-3 record is deceiving in my opinion.
The 49ers are actually BETTER than people realize, even at 5-1. First start off with 3 East Coast games, all being wins. The Eagles at the time were considered heavy favorites, especially at halftime when the score was 23-3. Alex Smith was finally allowed to throw the ball (almost 300 yards) and was able to win the game. A good win against an OK Bengals team (great on defense, horrid on offense). Finally, their most-impressive win against a previously unbeaten Lions team. Megatron was basically non-existant until garbage time. Our defense knocked their RB and QB out of the game. (BTW, we've knocked multiple QBs and RBs out of games: Romo, Stafford, Best, Blount, etc). Our defense appears to be bad on the pass, but we have one of the highest turnover rates in the NFL on defense. Our secondary has improved so much that I finally have confidence for the first time in nearly a decade. If it wasn't for a 50+ yard field goal, and an overtime pass, we would be 6-0. We might have the best front 7 in the NFL on defense. Harbaugh is the best head coach I have seen in the last 15 years for my beloved Niners. He needs to grow up a tad, but I still love the guy. Unclassy handshake, still love the guy.
We've had an extra week to prepare for this game. We've played and beaten 4 possible playoff teams already. The Browns have to travel to the West Coast for this game. The last time an East Coast team went West to play us, they lost 48-3. That team was better than the Browns imo.
All signs point to a 49er win... and possibly a blowout. I predict a win by 20 or more. Please don't hate, it's just what I see. I'll gladly come back for crow if I'm wrong. Pour it on too, because I would deserve it.
Here's to a good, injury-free game!
