Homotron said:
Oh please. 38-3 and you'll probably see back ups now. Honestly the Browns and their lovely fan base deserves worse. Classy group in the stands chanting "she said no, she said no" I'd run it in to the 50's and not think twice about it. You deserve it. Happy New Year, get your ass stomped. They'll get the first round bye. The first unit needs the game time reps.
Like I said.
Embarrassing is right.
But no awards for class go to Pittsburgh either.
LMAO!!! OK, it is a deal Peterbell! If Mangini is still the Browns head coach after December 31, 2010 I don't get to post on here for a year!The way I arrived at Dec 2010 is guessing that 1) He has a three year contract, 2) He will not have been able to turn the corner by the end of the second year, 3) Teams seem to be willing to eat one year but not more of a coach's contract, and 4) If they wait longer than December the best candidates will get jobs elsewhere. All speculation but maybe I am right. Anyway you got a deal!
Interesting predicament here.
Oh boy. The old "arm strength" argument. Listen up. Nobody has ever lost a game because their arm strength wasn't good enough. Well you know. Within limits. They lose games by throwing it to the wrong person, making a bad read, that kind of stuff.
The Browns are going in the right direction.
They're jelling as a team.
They're playing tough and with heart.
They're building an identity.
They have a promising young QB.
They're better than their record.
That's progress. Why mess it?
PS: Even WRRebel sees progress:
Logical people question a coach when a team has had losing seasons. I don't think anyone would deny that there has been progress from last year. That said, this year could have been better.
Bottom Line: Stop making excuses for Mangini. I like him. But, if he doesn't win games for me...then he loses my support. PERIOD. No f*cken excuses. It's the NFL and everyone has excuses. Win or GTFO. Let's beat Cinci and split the Balt/Ptt homes games. If this doesn't happen than this season will considered a dissapointment and justification for the removal of all coaches.
You can have that opinion just fine, but be careful or you'll wind up exactly like the Jets (you sound like one of their fans). It's always win now. A bad game, and it's "we need a new OC"... a hundred yard rusher and it's "we need a nose tackle to stuff the run."
These people don't have clue, but because they have their torches and their mob and their radio call-in shows and their chubby chowder heads, they usually get what they ask for... a new this, a new that, ... it's always the next thing and there's never an end to what needs to be fixed. They see all the bands but demand a refund because they never saw the parade.
So here's an idea: think twice about what constitutes success over the course of a season. Think about what ingredients the teams that win have in common. Pittsburgh, New Orleans, New England, Indianapolis, Giants, Ravens (ah em, sry). Think about it.
I don't care about style points. No one felt sorry for us when we lost in this fashion so don't apologize for winning that way.There are some things that WON'T be discussed this week about the players on the field.
1. Eric Steinbach. The performance here is UNACCEPTABLE for the last two weeks. He's consistently being dominated unless he's pulling on power runs (and sometimes ineffective even then). On 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter he got destroyed. He got destroyed on the audible where Delhomme got sacked right on the snap. The proof is in the video. He's just not cutting it. With the right side being so suspect, you can't have Eric Steinbach stink.
2. Brian Schaefering is not Robaire Smith. He's not able to hold his position very well in the run game and it shows.
3. We miss Scott Fujita in a BIG way. He not only provides talent and leadership but he sets the edge on the run plays that no one else seems to be willing to do in his stead.
4. No one is going to talk much about the contributions of Abe Elam but he's made some key plays the last two weeks and I have a new appreciation for his contributions after I heard on NFL Playbook about how hard it is to play safety opposite a rookie. Between he and Kenyon Coleman, I don't want to hear about how we "gave away" Mark Sanchez.
5. Speaking of the secondary, can any of them not named Haden just tackle when needed?
A note about 'giving away' Sanchez. Sanchez will either be Elite or not. The bottom line is that this organization hasn't invested that kind of energy or commitment (nor could it) into that position. They got serviceable players and coached them up. In the meantime, while no one was looking, they went and got themselves a qb. RE secondary... wow. just wow. They need to do better.
not the best but at least its not Joe Buck or Matt MillenOh and please stop showing Tory Holt left hand
He should never try to shake hands with Brian Baldinger, somebody once, correctly, pointed out.
I never cease to be amazed at how cocky Browns fan gets when you have just a modicumof success. You guys acted like the Jags were a joke compared to the Browns. Well, guess what?
Best and most accurate thing I got from looking at your profile was "Gender Not Set"
If he does, It will not be here. The front office is set up now so that the wheels will not fall off even if we have to change president.
I hope you're right. What the team has done this year is nothing short of exhilarating. I love being behind a team because of what they stand for and how they play, especially seeing that all pay off.
PS: Spent 4 years in Oberlin. Nice place.
That's EXACTLY why the Browns didn't want Bryant. And I haven't forgotten about his "I ain't carrying the vets pads in training camp" either. I see a Randy Moss or Terrell Owens in my crystal ball for Dez.Guys like McCoy, Hillis, and Fujita are the template for the types of players the Browns want on the team.
I agree and I'm loving the browns' new personality. Why do I have a sinking feeling it's all going to hell after holmgren decides to return to coaching?
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...11/post_55.htmlDuring his news conference in New England on Wednesday, Belichick said: "This is probably more of a West Coast team offensively than what we saw last week [in Minnesota] with [coach] Brad Childress. "[i'm] not sure exactly who's doing what, but the foundation of this offense is clearly from the roots that Mike [Holmgren] had and what he did in Seattle."
Dude. That totally explains why the Patriots got their shit mixed up in their diapers today. They thought they were playing west coast.
Homotron said:
Should be a good game. I didn't get to watch many games today with errands, work on the house and the gf's truck. Solid win that's for sure and I wouldn't be surprised to see a close game next week. However you did forget to include how Hillis ran against the Steelers. He didn't. I imagine the Jets will bottle him up as well. I guess we'll find out. I'm just glad the Patriots lost.
I don't think the key this week will be Hillis. I think it will be containing McCoy. What I mean is that the jets can maybe bottle up the browns running game but that that's not the key to winning. McCoy was what like 3 of 5 on third down? Turned broken plays into good ones. You got yourselves a QB and he's still an unknown.
I hear that, but lineman can't even flinch or it is a false start. I am pretty sure there had to have been a little movement with everyone just standing around pretending not to know what was going on.
Linemen can't "flinch"... but they can motion with their arms, as long as they're not engaged in motion that simulates the start of the play.
I said it in another thread....J-E-T-S, the Jets are NEXT NEXT NEXT...to get xxxxing beat down!
Seriously, you squeaked by the Lions this week and we dismantled the Pats. Get ready to get got by the Browns next Sunday! Just ask the Saints and Patriots.
lol. I didn't say we were going down.
If we do, it will be because our Coach Snackhappy licks vomit chunks. If we don't, then I'm fine with Snackhappy.
That trick play where Stuckey scored was amazing. I have never seen anything like that before. Can someone with a little knowledge explain why that was a legal play? I thought O-linemen had to be set in their stances before the ball is hiked. Here is the link to the play so everyone can enjoy it again.http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...out-of-WildDawg
They were set in their stances. Their stances just happened to be upright.
Congratulations. You have set the record for fastest fan of next weeks opponent to come on this board.So many storylines next week. Lots of national attention (even more so that we are good now). You better pray you can shut down Peyton Hillis. I dont care how good your run D is. Between the Ravens and Patriots he has 328 yards rushing alone. Thats against the top D's in the NFL. So watch out
Hillis is a goddam beast. Hillis is right: they've got a team now. Left side, check. QB, check. Playmakers on offense, check. A good blue collar team in the building.
