mikeyP72 said:
Carry Yds Avg TDGreene 20 72 3.6 0
Hillis 19 82 4.3 1
U do the math skippy.
Hmm I'll take ten less yards for no fumble. Plus we had another back go for another 50 plus yards. You keep fumble happy Hillis, and we'll keep our backfield, and keep winning thanks.
You can be plenty happy. Just don't gloat.And admit you were wrong about Hillis
I get being excited after having your team suck for awhile. Jet fans have been in that positon way to many times.
Hillis is good, but what did he have like 80 yards? Plus he had a fumble. I think Greene's numbers were better, and their isn't a bunch of Jet fans lined up to blow him. You need a good back to compete in this league. Congrats, you got a pretty good one.
The Jets have been seeking media attention and have been getting it ever since Rex was hired. They lobbied hard to get on Hard Knocks, acquired high profile player regardless of character, and Rex is a one man show by himself. Can you blame the Jets for craving attention having played second fiddle to the Giants for all these years and with all those unsold PSLs? They needed to generate excitement (or at the very least intrigue) somehow.A team that quit on their HC doesn’t start off 8-3. Even during the 4-12 season, the team played hard until the end in my eyes. They quit on Mangini during the actual collapse and I suspect it has something to do with the way Mangini handled Favre. You can’t sell the team concept when Favre, in his own office disconnected from the rest of the players, are sending pictures of his weewee to female Jet employees.
You saying the Jets feel second fiddle to anyone is laughable. Wasn't it your team that ran off to Baltimore and became a great team after years of sucking in Cleveland? And now you have another pretty crappy team with not a lot of talent, over achieving for a few games, and suddenly they are some kind of dynasty.
Jets will give them the beatdown they deserve. The Jets are just a better team. Mangini will never a be winning coach. He's gone this year anyway.
Zombo said:
Belichick? He was a Giants assistant back then.Zombo
Don't know why I wrote Belichek. Schotty's old man was the coach. With that being said, watch for the double reverse, in which Cochtery loses eight yards. Schotty calls it once a week. it is sort of a NY Jet tradition.
You do not want to guarantee anything. What if the Browns do somehow score 34 points? Then that leaves you with shit in your diaper. This is clearly why I dont talk smack anymore.
I can guarantee that the Browns won't score in the 30's. Heard from all the Lions fans how they average 37 points at home, and megatron..(one catch 15 yards.) will light us up.
Jet offense is the concern. If we lose this game. Sanchez throws two picks and we lose a close low scoring game.
It is a good test for both teams. It will answer a lot of questions for both and will probably raise others.The issue that New Yorkers need to grasp is that Braylon Edwards is persona non grata in Cleveland for a reason. This guy figuratively pissed on the fans. They would have loved him unconditionally if he would have given a damn but he didn't. He was above everyone. He repeatedly wouldn't pay for stuff on trips. He'd sound off and quite honestly, had the worst set of hands in the WR business. Perhaps the hands are better now, who knows? You just can't fix the "want to" part. Think of it like a poor man's Randy Moss. He was always so worried that the fans hated him because he was from Michigan...HELLO! McFLY! The fans hate you because you don't try and you're a jerk.
I can't remember a comparable Jet. Kerry Rhodes?
Good point. Cromartie is another with that rep, and if things start to go bad, with these kind of players things can go bad in a hurry. Holmes, (even though he had a huge catch on Sun.) drops the ball, and points for a first down even when we are down. That drives me crazy. Braylon had some big drops last year, and because of the diwi, I don't think he'll be back.
Ryan and Tannenbaum decided to take on players like that because of talent. And I think with a strong enough locker room, they can be motivated to play up to their potential.
BTW my first bad football lose was 86 Jets, Browns, Gastineau late hit on Kosar. Double overtime lose. Belichek's first coaching job. Sucked... been a die hard hard luck fan ever since.
Be careful man. Don't dig your own grave. Saints and Pats fans aren't on this board anymore for a reason. They talked so much shit and had nothing to say after losing. You don't want to be one of them, now do you? Cover your ass.
Don't think I talked shit. I said it will be a close...3 point game. Yeah this game worries me, but I know that it won't be the Browns scoring 34 points.
I don't think the Jets will score in the 30's either. This will come down to turnovers and mistakes.
Anyway, just the fact that Rob Ryan is allowed to talk to the media means that Mangini is thawing a bit...
If you were realistic and objective you'd see that Eric Mangini has the ability to coach in the league and coach well. Those statements come from people in the NFL, not from me. He beat Belichick and Fisher in successive weeks in 2008 and was 8-3. They tanked and the media turned on him. Jets fans buy that media. They parrot it like it's gospel. I live in it so I'm not guessing.At a minimum, you should be able to acknowledge that he's turned this team around and he's learned from his personal mistakes. You can't separate out the current Jets success from Mangini. The foundation was laid in 2006. When you go to the playoffs with D-Rob as your 0-technique....that's saying something. For my money, Mangini's firing in NY was not about X's and O's or even tanking. It was about Woody wanting the change. You can't sell PSLs without an outgoing, salesman coach. Admittedly, that's not Eric Mangini's strength. If you think it was because he couldn't coach...you're mistaken. Tannenbaum saved his own ass (and no one can blame him, I suppose) but it was media driven and political.
Hillis didn't do shit against the Steelers and the Saints. Even without Jenkins, he isn't going to run over the Jets. We'll stack the box and our secondary can stop whatever receivers..Stuckey?...the Browns have.
Our offense will be the question mark. Browns have a good D, and I see this being a 10-7 9-6 type game. But if you think you are dropping 34 points on the Jets? not gonna happen.
As for Mangini, I think he did get a raw deal here in NY. He's a good football mind, and I think between him and Tannenbaum, they brought in some good players. I think that Favre coming in was a horrible idea, and it hamstrung Mangini, and then he took the fall
But I've been a Jet fan for 25 years, and Rex makes watching and being a Jet fan more fun. Mangini is boring, and I think ultimatly his teams reflect that. Last years run was great, and we're 6-2. I think the Browns were overlooked by the Pats and the Saints, and I don't think the Jets will do that.
We'll see. As for the Braylon broken leg comment, maybe its fans like that that made him not want to play in your city anymore..we'd rather have him here, driving around the upper west side drunk off his ass, catching td's on sunday. Stay classy Cleveland
