Whats the deal with these two? At the beginning of camp everyone was saying how NFL ready they are to step in and produce right away...I dont even see them on the field. Cribbs is not a WR lets face it. I just dont understand how Cribbs can be getting playing time and the rookies cant.

st. clair..false start, and 2 sacks on one drive..that is so embarassing

mz. said:

We're better than this. Way to make us look like fucking scumbags, Breeze.

If you lived and grew up in Charlotte your whole life and had to put up with panthers fans like this one, you would be agreeing with me. Im not trying to personally attack anybody, I'm just a huge Browns fan who has gotten sh!t from Panthers fans (who dont know what there talking about most of the time) my whole life.

@panthersfan said:

For the record Rosario will be a starter at the next passing team he gets on. With Smith on this team he is Jakes 1st, 2nd, and 3rd read. He will floourish in the 1st offense that uses his athleticism regularly in the passing game. And we are talking about a guy many of your own fans have stated that he doesn't fit your scheme. I have even heard a couple people talking about just cutting him outright. Then you come on here acting like you know everything insulting someone who only wanted to get a browns fans perspective. This is the reason I can't stand these forums everyone who post knows they are doing it so anonymously so they think they can be assholes without any repercussions. Cause I guarantee you wouldn't say that to my face. Go back to watching your 4-12 bottom feeder team that your so proud of.

yea i would say it to your face..i say it to panthers fans all the time. The browns have a better city, fan base, and history then the panthers will ever have as a franchise. Whats your next trade proposal? Dwayne Jarrett and Dante Wesley for Braylon Edwards?

this is what bothers me about Panthers fans...I'm from Charlotte and i hear stupid crap like this all the time. You are overrating Rosario way too much. This is just another example of a Panthers fan who lacks football knowledge. Why the hell would we trade a starter who would benefit your team immediatly for a backup TE and a backup RB who just got drafted? Go back to Bank of America Stadium and eat your cheese and drink your wine douchebag

That would be alot of money invested in the defensive line

according to espn the deal is only worth 3 million. That is not alot. I would have taken him back for more than 3 mil.

I attend the university of south carolina, so i saw brinkley play alot last year. Coming into last year most scouts said he would be going first to second round. The first 3-4 games of the season Brinkley was never seen around the ball. He had about a tackle a game. As the season went on though he started to play better. His playing weight during the season was 270, and he showed up to the combine at 250. He is a sure tackler, but he is not very fast and has trouble going from sideline to sideline. Eric Norwood coming out next year would be a much better pick for the browns imo

Eric Norwood is coming back for his senior season

My question is will Ryan run the 4-3 or the 3-4

@kosarfan said:

Add or change the list as you think ....

The fans I can't handle are the gazilion BAND WAGONNERS that jumped on board and call themselves Patriot fans.

Fan ranks in my estimation, top to bottom:

#1 - Browns (have to to put up with the crap we've been handed)

#2 - Steelers

#3 - Green Bay

#4 - Giants

#5 - Panthers

Add to the list .....

hahahaha man if you lived in charlotte you would know the panthers are at the bottom

@greythan said:

Is that right? ESPN shows Williams as the RE.

I'll admit I'm not familiar with Houston so you may be right. If that's the case, we'll probably see more Jason Wright to help chip on the right side. Might hurt our ability to get more Harrison unless the staff feels he can help with blitz pickups.

He does play both but in most cases he does line up at LE. I know for a fact in college he played LE, because Manny Lawson played RE. So i think the texans like to put him where he is most comfartable.

The only problem is Mario lines up on the RT more often than he does on the LT. So really Shaffer will have his hands full.

Crabtree

reminds me alot of andre johnson when he was coming out

big, physical, runs good routes, and has great hands

\ said:

Not a very good first post.

So explain to me why we should hold onto BE when:

1. He is a headcase

2. His drops are NOT fixable. He has been labled a drop-artist since he played at Michigan and everyone knows this except you apparently.

3. He gets way too many false start penalties.

4. He Pouts when the ball doesn't come his way.

Did you notice last night he DROPPED the first ball thrown to him? And only got 2 other throws after that? Thats because Quinn realizes he can't rely on him like he can K2. Who also has some issues.

well this is my first post on the new board but i have been a member on the old board for years but did not post often,

my point is if you trade him you will hurt the team more than you would have if you kept him

i do know people labled him as a "drop artist", but were you making these posts last year?

No he played at a level of the top WR's in the league

you dont just play like shit overnight...he is still a very good reciever, and its only his 4th year

Whoever thinks we should trade braylon is stupid

he still takes on double teams and plays well

yes he has dropped a ton of passes but its not like he can't go back to how he played last year

drops are fixable

and who are we going to play in his place?

Steptoe? Sanders? Hubbard? or another rookie

we need to rebuild the defense not trade away pro bowl caliber players