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In 2011 Cincy was (14-15) on 3rd and 1 with him at FB. That's exactly why he is here, short yardage

I'm calling it. Greco to center Schwartz to right guard and drafting @ #4 Jake Mattews or Greg Robinson at RT

@jiggins7919 said:

With as many picks as we have, I think that it's a forgone conclusion that we're going to try and make some kind of deal. Trading back into the top ten would be EXPENSIVE, but this is also a deep, deep draft, so even trading back into the top 15 would a huge difference, and something that might even land us C. J. Mosley. Getting ridiculously high caliber players like Watkins and Mosley would be absolutely insane, but still doesn't help us with our offensive line issues. The damn Browns do this to me every year.... they somehow get me excited even though we have new coaches, new front office, and an unproven quarterback. In my worthless opinion, our entire season depends on a young man from St. Ignatius high school...Brian Hoyer. If Hoyer is really the player I think he is....we're not going to just win 4 or 5 games.

I'm with you man. Everyone who thinks the browns need a QB in the first round should read this (http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2011/08/11/an-rsp-flashback-qb-brian-hoyer/ ) and re-watch the games Hoyer played in last year. Completely different team with BH at QB. Brian Hoyer on the upcoming season "Have 9-1-1 on speed dial and bring out the caution tape because we are about to murder the AFC North"

@the-gipper said:

Rumor I am hearing is that the Browns may want to actually get two of the Top Ten picks in this draft.

They would use their #4 pick perhaps on Watkins....but then use their #26 plus their multple picks in the draft to move up from #26 to 8,9,10 to select Teddy Twatwater if he slides to those slots.

It would take a big package of up to 3-4 picks to move up that far, but that would give the Browns both Watkins and Bridgewater.

2 scenarios

IMO I think it would be better to trade down from #4 to 6-8. This would give the browns a second rd pick to then use to move up from #26 to the mid teens 12-18 range depending on who we trade with.

1st rd. pick 6-8

1st rd. pick 12-18

2nd rd. pick 35

or

trade down from #4 to 6-8. Giving the browns a additional second rd pick to then use on potential QB or BPA that falls.

1st rd. pick 6-8

1st rd. pick 26

2nd rd. pick 35

2nd rd. pick 36-42

@walterwhite said:

We have to find a way to draft this guy, maybe if we trade down.

Sweet jesus, this guy can lay the wood and break up the pass.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1957539-why-calvin-pryor-is-a-first-round-safety-in-todays-nfl

I know everyone wants all of these offensive weapons but we need to draft the BEST players... I think Calvin Pryor is one of them. Good post.

Okay this is kind of off topic but he was a former #1 pick. I was reading Evan Silva's (Rotoworld) tweets about Sam Bradford and the Browns. He was asking for Browns fan input on whether or not as a fan you would be happy if Cleveland traded a 3rd round pick for Sam Bradford and his $14.15mil contract. If you were to pick a QB in the draft with your #4 pick you could get (Carr or Manziel or Bortles or Bridgewater) + $7mil in future cap space (compared to Bradfords salary). What do you do? I just want to get some input from everyone

You need 2 QB's on any given team, but you don't have to draft 5 of them lol. I like the approach of drafting Bortles, Bridgewater, or Manziel with the 4th pick and then follow that up by getting Jimmy Garoppolo in the 3 or 4th round.

Manziel coming in at #1... interesting. I'm at work and ESPN is blocked or I'd put up the player comments, maybe when I get off

1. QB, Johnny Manziel - Houston

2. OT, Jake Matthews - St. Louis via Wash

3. DE, Jadeveon Clowney - Jax

4. QB, Blake Bortles - Cleveland

5. WR, Sammy Watkins - Oakland

6. OLB, Anthony Barr - Atlanta

7. OLB, Khalil Mack - Tampa Bay

8. QB, Teddy Twatwater - Minnesota

9. OT, Greg Robinson - Buffalo

10. CB, Justin Gilbert - Detroit

11. OT, Taylor Lewan - Tennessee

12. LB, C.J. Mosley - NYG

13. WR, Mike Evans - St. Louis

14. DT, Timmy Jernigan - Chichago

15. DT, Louis Nix III - Fag Steelers

16. TE, Eric Ebron - Baltimore

17. S, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix - Dallas

18. WR, Marquise Lee - NYJ

19. OT, Cyrus Kouandjio - Miami

20. OT, Zack Martin - Arizona

21. S, Calvin Pryor - Green Bay

22. WR, Calvin Benjamin - Philly

23. DE, Stephon Tuitt - Kansas City

24. CB, Darqueze Dennard - Cincy

25. CB, Bradley Roby - San Diego

26. RB, Carlos Hyde - Cleveland

27. OT, Antonio Richardson - New Orleans

28. WR, Brandin Cooks - Carolina

29. TE, Jace Amaro - New England

30. WR, Odell Beckham Jr. - San Fran

31. DE, Scott Crichton - Denver

32. WR, Allen Robinson - Seattle

I don't believe he is in question for the job, but what he did with Youngstown State and how he changed it into a powerhouse during his time there is what Cleveland needs. He also resurrected the Buckeyes to a national title and other chances at titles. He gets Ohio football and would be excellent at coaching/preparing for opponents especially in Cleveland weather.

I don't believe we need to move up, but if a QB needy team like Minnesota moves up/threatens to move up to #2 then we might need to consider a trade if we want one of the 3 "bluechip" qb's

www.fanspeak.com/ontheclock

@jafbf said:

I'm not thrilled that it happen, nor was I rooting for it, but I'm okay with it at this point.

Yeah, they went through multiple QB's, RB's, other Players and so forth, but a lot of other Teams had to deal with player injuries as well.

My biggest concern was how we just flat out collapsed after the Bye.

Also, I was still seeing some freakin' Clock Management issues even in the last game of the Season.

At this point I have to agree with the FO - the Team to me looked worse and had seriously regressed throughout the Season.

Some of the ways we found to lose and the continual mistakes we kept making . . . something was just not working out.

Could Chud have turned things around?

Quite possibly, but I also think that we should have seen a better Season than we did.

Nailed it. Nothing upsets me more as a fan then terrible clock management. That's the shit you can control and should be able too, unlike injuries.

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

I want a different Youngstown boy coaching this team....Stoops.

I'll take either at this point! I have a friend who coaches at Boardman, he led his freshmen team who collectively were 1-13 last year to a 8-2 record. Hired

JT would change this team just like he did with Youngstown. But it will never happen

Reminds me of Jake Locker with a slightly more accurate ball. I think his RB Storm Jobnson helps him create plays and play as well as he does. His speed is his biggest upside but in the nfl everyone is playing fast. I think he's more of a product of his environment then an elite talent capable of performing at a high level in the NFL. . Don't get me wrong he can play in the NFL but is he just another Jake Locker?

@d-bone said:

If we get a flop, then it wasn't a good trade. If we get just a solid NFL starter, then it's a steal. If we get a pro bowl caliber player, then it's a rape.

100% agree we still need to see, but we have the ammo for a QB or any talented player on the board. The rape comparison made me lol for about 2 min. good post

@poeticg said:

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb trade. Trent tied Jim Browns rookie rushing record with 9 TD's last season. What the fuck ever, spin it however you want, whatever makes you sleep better at night. The Browns sucked running the ball this year, not only did they suck but they were mad boring to watch try and run the ball. Obi, McGayhee, Wickerbasket and all the other crap that toted the ball were boring...

At least Richardson showed highlight material and was exciting to watch. Had they not traded Trent and instead just replaced Weeden with Hoyer before fucking everything up, we would probably have two more Probowlers in Richardson and Hoyer.

Just because they were boring to watch doesn't mean it was a bad trade. I didn't like the running game either this year, but it wouldn't have looked any better with TRich. It's called coaching and offensive game planning something we didn't have this year