@lumbergh said:

how about an established TD passer, a leader, team captain, former pro bowler....

hmmm... anybody like that on the roster?

If you are speaking of DA, you have problems. The fact of the matter is this: THAT WAS DA's PAST. He fell apart last season, tried to prove himself again, but was continiously inconsistent with the short passes, made too many incomplete ones by overthrowing and underthrowing them, when he was in trouble, he wouldnt move like Quinn does. DA just waits to be tackled. Hes a loser, hes pathetic and should no longer be a quarterback. Hes nothing. Quinn has already showed that hes more consistent in the pocket, gets the ball down the field, makes quick decisions and barely gets sacked. He lets the ball go before he gets tackled. We appreciate what DA did in 2007 but that was a one hit wonder my friend.

Lumbergh these are the facts. Look at the stats. And not just the stats, tapes of the 08 season when he was quarterback. He was horrible and thats not a matter of opinion. Its a fact. Hes nothing, he sucks. Get rid of him.

Quinn has a chance but has alot to prove. And he will perform and make plays unlike DA. You watch. DA=Tim Couch in my book. WORTHLESS. Sad but true buddy. Live with it.

It seems as though as everybody is OVERLOOKING Jeremy Maclin. Hes an amazing receiver. I say draft him...no questions asked.

@shepwrite said:

On the sunny side... can you imagine this draft if the Browns have the 5, 17, and 18 in round one?

If we move Quinn, it's tough to imagine not drafting a quarterback, but maybe they'd give Anderson another shot. Doesn't seem likely in this offense, but who knows?

As much as I despise K2, he was right in saying they tried with Anderson but it just didnt work out. Keep Quinn and throw that nobody DA in the Lake. Draft Sanchez or Stafford. I have a feeling they will be better than DA in their rookie seasons.

Anything can happen in the NFL. ANYTHING.

When I saw that they were "sitting" on the offers, I thought that they were refusing. When you say you are sitting on an offer, doesnt it mean you refuse it? Or did I misunderstand the vocabulary?

Hmmm....well if you put it that way I say keep him. But heres the thing: he will be a free agent next year so why not let him go and save money? We will be giving him a big bonus check regardless if he goes or stays in 2010. I agree with you but we arent saving our money. I still like the Crabtree/Maclin/Maualuga idea.

Thank Goodness Quinn is staying but Braylon? I say get rid of him. I like the Crabtree idea but Jeremy Maclin is awesome too. Maualuga as well. So many to choose from.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...d_to_be_si.html

@inspecta said:

So, we are 4 pages deep into this thread and not one confirmation of said story.

To the OP, I would venture to say that you should probably hold off on these things, I remember you posted some far fetched rumor last year that never came to fruition.

Thank you!

GO BROWNS!

@clevelandfanforlife said:

is anyone else getting the feeling that this trade is just made up and braylon hasn't been traded? just a thought.

Yes it was made up cuz NFL.com would have reported it already, just like when K2 was traded it was all over the place.

Funny thing is that the person that started this joke is an old faggot. What a loser.

@choco said:

have you even read your own posts?

Yes I have and I am sticking by them. Dumbass.

@ballpeen said:

I agree.

Personal threats should get you banned faster than starting a rumor....and I don't like that either.

Maybe this guy did get his information as he said.....or maybe he just pulled it out of a hat.

I don't think he should get banned for it unless he starts to develop a pattern of starting this stuff...I guess there is a fine line between sharing "information" and just starting rumors.

You are a straight A student....since when is saying you are going to kick somebody's ass, childish? All humans do it no matter what age. Freak.

@old-dawg said:

Speaking of immature and childish....WTF??? You want me to grow up, go to hell and you're going to tear me to pieces AND I"M immature and childish!!! Boy, I graduated college the year you were born and by the looks of it, the best part of you ran down your daddy's leg!! FOff!

That means nothing to me. You are the sob that started this rumor and acted like a child for doing so. Me wanting to break you is not childish. Do your research. You are the immature one not me. Telling me I should have ran down my daddy's leg is pretty original did you come with that by yourself? Its almost like saying you should have been a handjob or a blowjob. I despise rumor people like you. You need to grow up old man.

So if Edwards was traded, wouldnt it be announced by now? My point exactly. Go to hell where you belong Old Dawg.

I do hope Edwards gets out of here but for people to spread stupid lies and rumors is very immature and childish. Grow up.

You still dont get it do you Old Dawg?

I ought to come tear you apart wherever you are. My friend also called me to tell me he talked to Mark Shapiro's kid and he said he heard that Joe Thomas was traded for Troy Polamalu, Larry Fitzgerald AND Jay Cutler. SERIOUSLY. You will hear the news soon!

What a crock you are. You make me sick. Dont ever post false statements like that ever again.

Waste of sperm. Not that I care if Edwards gets traded but my god dont make shit up.

Freak.

Dude, just get off the board. Noboday wants to hear your bS lies. If he was traded, it would now be all over the NFL site, browns site, and a REAL thread on here talking about it. You WISH he was traded. Fact of the matter is this, BE is staying here whether he likes it or not. If he really is traded, great but not so great. He has a big ego, doesnt play well under pressure, and runs his mouth and I certainly wouldnt tolertate that if I was ManKok. The Browns made the correct decision to get rid of that POS K2. Hes another waste of sperm too. He will never get better no matter where he plays. He may have been productive for us but who goes out and injures himself on a bike? Dumb ass humans thats who.

Who goes out and insults the fans and bitches "people dont like me cuz im from Michigan." BE does. We dont need him but then again we do. We are thin at WR. Every great WR drops alot of passes. Look at the WR from Denver last year and his stats, dropped even more than Edwards.

Just stop making crap up for your own sake and stop acting like a 4-year old with these crappy rumors. Grow up already.

GO BROWNS!

Winslow WAS good....until he got injured....then he became stupider and injured himself again. He sucks when hes in pain and will never get better. His knee is finished. To hell with him anyway. He had the gal to ask for more money last year and we didnt give it to him. Thank God. He is all about K2 and was never a team player. He always wanted the ball. I am happy hes gone, screw him. Ill bet you 500 bucks he will suck in Tampa. Heiden was always overlooked and is better than Winslow. Everybody knows it. We never gave him a chance. Yes he may have torn an ACL but you dont see him doing stunts on motorcycles do you? Heiden plays and doesnt talk shit like k2. Rucker? Ehh not a fan, hopefully we will get a good deal out of this. Also winslows dumb comment last year was BS. It wasnt a staph infection it was an STD! You wanna know how I know? I know one of the nurses that treated him. Fact is he WAS great once. Hes a nobody now. This is good I am happy, now Edwards needs to go.

@standish said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

I think he looked really chuffed towards the end of that video, like he's ready to put his heart into this job.

Agreed, why people are criticizing him already I have no idea. These people that hate Mangini are afraid of losing. They look at his record in NY. So what if its rocky? Same thing happened with Belichik here, he sucked but went to different team and won three super bowls. Mangini sucked in NY, went to another team(Browns), and we only hope for what can happen next! Give the guy a chance people! Sheesh!

GO BROWNS!

Endymion said:

I'm surprised at how excited you Brownies are about Mangini. I read numerous posts about how the Browns should do it right and Lerner should hire a GM who in turn will hire the coach. Now the cart seems to be put before the horse doesn't it?

Even some comments made here tend to imply the entire Browns organization is rotten to the core (scouts, personel, ball boys, coaching, existing players, owner, etc). Even if Mangini can coach what has been done to fix the rest of your system? If your comments about the entire organization is correct, then I'd have to agree with the Browns fans that said hiring a GM first would have been the right course of action.

Cowher can be a bonehead at times. However, his teams were really competitive, and he worked miracles with subpar players. Kordell Stewart QBed the team to two AFC Championship games!!! Has Schottenhiemer ever had a losing season? He couldn't coach the play-offs but in terms of regular season he's been golden and he's seemed to be able to help get great players in the draft. Most of you Brownies are rooting for SD (which is a team with a huge Schottenhiemer fingerprint). As a fan base, I'd think you'd have to be highly disappointed in not getting one of those two. You didn't even interview Marty.

Whats not to be excited? He is the very first head coach we ever hired that actually HAS head coaching experience. The others did NOT. We are going to beat you "Squeelers" next year. Bet you $1000.

Steeler SChuck said:

What - no Cowher, no Shanahan, no Marty?

Told yinz that the stains ain't paying any coin for a premier HC, but I'm usually right and yinz are usually not.

Well, well - Mangina. Couldn't win after getting the drama queen QB and spending a bazillion dollars in FA. Stool pidgeoned Belicheat, not that I didn't mind that but still a sell-out. How much is this guy costing yinz?

Anyway, congrats on getting the guy who's going to save the franchise. Maybe Brett comes with him?

Regards

..... an'at

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This is America. Either learn how to speak English or get the f out. We are gonna beat your asses next year I promise you that. Go Browns!!!!

@raiderman said:

THIKA I find it funny that someone who is a Browns fan can call another franchise helpless. Since you guys have so many super bowl rings. Or for that matter played in so many super bowls. Your owner is a joke. You make references to Al Davis, and that is fine. Although if you knew anything about football you would know that Al Davis has done more for the NFL then any other owner. His work for the African American quarterback and work during the AFL/NFL merger has made the NFL what it is today. Not to mention the fact that your team had just hired another coach from the Belicheck regime in Mangini without hiring a GM first. So instead you guys are going to go after a guy from Baltimore who is from the same mold as Phil Savage. As far as Rob Ryan goes, you couldn't be more wrong about what you are getting. First you must understand his defensive scheme. It is a man to man defense which success is based upon a 4 man pass rush. Considering Wimbley hasn't panned out like Browns fans would like, you guys are going to run into the same problems Oakland had. You guys will get rid of your 3-4 defense, because like the Raiders you don't have the personnel to run that scheme. Ryan will bring a 4-3 man to man passive defense to your team. There shouldn't be any mention of "aggressive" when speaking of his defense. because that isn't what you are getting. Now as far as Crennel goes as a Raider fan I DON'T want him as a coordinator. He is a defensive minded coach who couldn't build a competent unit through the draft. He is kind of like Marvin Lewis in Cincinnati. You can't survive long in the NFL is the unit that you specialize in struggles.

I think you are a very ignorant fan who wouldn't survive on a board like Raiderfans.net. Not to mention that fact that Raider fans are the most loyal and hardcore fans int he NFL or for any sport for that matter. To all other Browns fan good luck with the upcoming season. It is going to be interesting to see that you guys do with Edwards in and Winslow before next seaon considering they only have one year left on their contracts. I live in Toledo, OH but am a die-hard Raider Fan. I will see you guys in Cleveland in 2009. Nice board just get rid some guys like the guy who started this post. He is really bringing your board down with dumb and useless comments.

Are you kidding me? See my friend thats where you are wrong. Cleveland fans have been and always will be the most loyal fans in all of the NFL. Do your research. You are the kind of fan that WANTS to be known as the most loyal but will never EVER happen. Deal with it.

DA is nothing. He is a horrible quarterback, plain and simple, hes another Tim Couch. I hope he leaves. Just look at what he does. He doesnt know how to get rid of the ball, doesnt run, doesnt do squat. Quinn? 10000 times better. Hes much quicker in the pocket, is more consistent and accurate when throwing, and GETS RID OF IT QUICKLY. Quinn is the man for the job. Screw DA. He may have my first name but thats means nothing. To hell with him.