this move reeks of past browns regimes that mortgage the future in order to save their own necks

this reminds me of Jim Paxson trading a 1st for Jiri Welsch

Phil "The Toolman" Taylor

An allusion to a show that has been out of the social consciousness long enough to be ironically hip as well as a good description of his skillset...this kid has all the tools to be a great run stuffer

I think Korey Stringer deserves a mention, he made the pro bowl the year before he died and would have had a long career ahead of him

the first page (stopped reading after that) of this thread is embarrassing

nmills said:

and your an idiot.

i very very rarely give a shit about grammar on messageboards

but if you are going to call someone an idiot, it loses it's weight when you write "your" when it should be "you're"

it is ridiculous how much these guys make before ever taking a snap in the nfl

hadden isn't a sure thing

DQ Softserve can walk for all I care

Wali Rainer 2.0, when a team is as bad at stopping the run as the browns have been the past few years a MLB is going to get alot of tackles

which doesn't necessarily mean that player is overly talented

Tim Couch

Courtney Brown

Winslow

Edwards

this is depressing...

woah, pretty cool

i wish we could see the browns' board

@sisky-fringo said:

i could be wrong but i think it was 11, and he'd probably still be wearing it in the Browns archives if his Dad's #80 didn't come free.

he bought the number from aaron shea

He's a Niner now so the point has become moot

edit: traded for a 5th round pick

Taylor reminds me abit of Cato June (safety at Michigan, played OLB in the pros at a Pro Bowl level in '05)

I love Bradford's accuracy, his arm strength and ability to get through progressions

I am (as I'm sure most browns fans would be) deathly afraid of his injury issues

I'd rather stay put and hope Berry falls to 7

2nd round could adress QB

@thaak said:

He actually had good WR stats in college.

He did have good stats, but i attributed that to the long ball and outrunning coverage, I never saw him meet the ball at it's highest point or break in and out of cuts the way a WR should

I think he's an unbelievable athlete just not a WR, imo

He has never been a WR, good return guy in college...that's about it

T.O. is a going to be a distraction on a team likely looking from the outside in on the playoffs, remember how hard the browns played in the final 4 games of the season...i doubt T.O. is willing to put that sort of effort in when the games are 'meaningless'

Vincent played very well in a contract year with one of the best QBs in the league throwing him the ball...i'll pass on overpaying for him

If all we want is vet leadership bring in someone who won't be a cap burden or a distraction

I'd go with Joe Thomas, a stud who won't be given the chance to leave (franchise tag him for his career if need be)

@erie-dawg said:

Yeah and if you drive thru that sh*thole town you wouldn't even know they had a MLB team.

PNC is a really nice park...too bad the product on the field is terrible

i'm more insulted by this half hearted apology than if he would have stuck by his words

Has anyone mentioned the Vols -- Tampa Kiffin Connection?

Kiffin Sr. was Tampa's long time D Coordinator and coached Berry last year

I don't see him slipping past Tampa, but Berry is #1 on my board (as far as the browns needs are concerned)