@playgroundlegend said:

Being in college myself I know some people who know some people,

Pryor has some serious character issues, especially with the way he treats women let alone his teammates.

Explain

@ytownbrownsbacker said:

You sure he didn't play any QB is HS. I thought he converted to WR his senior year. could be mistaken.

Nah I actually went to school with him and his brother.

His brother was the QB and plays for Kentucky. Hartline got hurt like the 1st or 2nd game of his senior year and missed the rest of the year.

Also graduated with Kosta Koufos

EDIT:Guess he did play some QB, didnt know that.

@ytownbrownsbacker said:

He has a lot better speed then people think. A good athlete, was a HS QB. Has very good hands and finds a way to get open against a zone defense. Maybe a Welker type receiver in the right system. I'd take him in the mid to bottom of the 3rd round.

Brian Hartline was not a QB in HS.

@thomas5737 said:

Thats the quickest diagnosis of an NFL draftee being a bust EVER! I know he doesn't have a single yard yet in the NFL, but then again he hasn't been drafted yet either. I think what you meant to (incorrectly IMO) say was that he WOULD be a bust. Or maybe, he is a bust waiting to happen.

You actually think he is gonna make it in the NFL? He is always tweaking something in games and sitting out the rest of them. He shys away from contact more than people think.

@ytownbrownsbacker said:

They might be making a run at Shanahan next year and he has his own people. I too think they are willing to let him go.

Hell no. Shananhan and Jones ego's wouldnt last long together. Not to much. why would Shananhan go somewhere that wont allow him to have full control.

Beanie doesn't run a 4.4. Also, he is a power back and doesn't seem to like contact anymore. He runs away from it which isn't good. He is a bust.

@vegasdogg said:

The Ravens were a good team. They had no HC worth a shit after his D could not bail him out.

Atlanta did well, and so did Miami. They also played shit schedules. I know we'll play a shit schedule next season, I am concerned about the year after when we play "that" schedule.

We'll see how Sparano and Harbaugh and Smith do in 2009.

Atlanta didnt play a shit schedule. They played the NFC south (no teams with a losing record in the division), Vikings are a playoff team, Denver, Chargers a playoff team. That schedule wasnt easy at all.

@lemosley01 said:

The Ravens have a stable front office. ATL has Arthur Blank, who actually has a clue, and Rich McKay.

We have none of that. They also haven't really accomplished anything yet. Let's see what happens next year when they are playing a much tougher schedule. We've seen ourselves that one good season may just be fool's gold.

Arthur Blank gave Vick a huge extension, he doesn't have a clue at all

@vegasdogg said:

The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.

Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.

That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.

Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.

@jewdago said:

notes from watching oregon:

two players really stood out to me: patrick chung and t.j. ward, both of oregon's safeties. they're both smaller guys, 5'11", and chung's got 20 pounds on ward, 210 to 190, but both are absolutely huge hitters. they flat-out demolish people. the guys they hit bounce off the turf. it's fantastic to watch. they also support the run well and come up to level RBs before they can get through the secondary. most of the time, they were there within six yards of the LOS.

chung had a pass interference penalty called on him when he had to defend a slot WR running a wheel route. it wasn't the most egregious penalty ever and wasn't nearly as bad as william moore looked in coverage against northwestern. chung's gonna be a solid guy. definitely the second-best in the draft after mays.

t.j. ward is only a redshirt junior, so he may or may not be coming out this year. based on his low weight, i think he'll stay another year if he wants to be a serious candidate for the NFL.

i didn't specifically watch unger, but the ducks ran all over oklahoma state. their QB and one RB went over 100 yards and another guy had 70+, so i'd say unger blocks pretty well.

jeremiah johnson, their RB, backed up jonathan stewart last year, and is a decent RB. he's solid, not spectacular. he doesn't really make people miss all that much or run them over, but he's a jack of all trades and does everything well. good hands, good vision.

two oregon offensive players looked good: lagarrette blount, a junior RB, and jeremiah masoli, their sophomore QB. blount is a big guy (6'2", 238) and runs with power, dragging people and bowling them over on his way to the end zone. brandon jacobs.

jeremiah johnson won't cut it in the NFL, which is a shame. he's only 5'11", which means he's a slot receiver if he can learn the position. however, he runs with power. he destroyed a oklahoma state DB. completely knocked him on his ass on his way to the end zone. has great vision, too.

one last guy whose name i heard called quite a few times was junior defensive end will tukuafu, who goes 6'4", 278. he had at least one sack and stopped another run behind the LOS. definitely worth a look as a 3-4 DE. he has the size and has produced on the field.

Jeremiah johnson was considered the better back when Stewart was still at Oregon so that is saying something about him. He will be a great pro in a 2 back system.

Masoli is only a sophomore so he has plenty of time.

Prediction???..Pain!! said:

First off, I want to say that as long as Randy Lerner owns the team I am not going to have confidence in any decision that he makes....period. His track record is horrible. Let's hope that he makes the right decision for the sake of all of us.

Now to my question. When the Steelers hired Mike Tomlin, did they mandate to him that Dick LeBeau was going to be his defensive coordinator? It doesn't sound like the right thing to do for a new head coach not to be albe to hire his staff. It seems to be that you would be undermining his authority from day one.

I bring this up b/c if Pioli is hired and he believes that McDaniels is the second coming would it be wise to dictate to him his staff?

Im pretty sure Lebeau wasnt going anywhere and im sure Tomlin knew that when he came in.

Raheem Morris I hope, I think he is one guy who could sneak up and be named HC too.

@tk39 said:

I was just hoping that they could work together and find a happy medium.

I was just thinking Martz - Quinn - Edwards - Winslow - (and the slight posibility of Crabtree). Sounds good to me.

Martz has been fired from numerous jobs for a reason, terrible play calling and refusing to run the ball. This guy had Steven Jackson at RB and refused to use him. What do you think he is gonna do with Jamal Lewis as his main RB

Honestly that HC/OC duo makes no sense what so ever. You combine a guy who likes to pound to the rock, with someone who is like 90/10% in favor of the pass.

This is huge, Shanahan is a proven HC and would do a great job here imo. We could pick up a RB in the draft that he sees fit. What he did with the Denver team is great, yes they choked at the end of the season. But they had no RBs, a horrid defense and a QB who is Elway one game and Ryan Leaf the next.

mz. said:

If that's the case, I'd prefer Mangini or Schwartz to Ferentz. Wouldn't everybody?

Perhaps Pioli could convince McDaniels to come over as OC????

He wont be allowed to. The Patriots have him under contract and will not be able to leave.

Ferentz was so 6 years ago. Please pass on him

@calfoxwc said:

The best Browns first round pick hasn't declared yet...

but I wonder where he will be projected to go in the first round? Could the Browns trade down a little, pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd this year...

and still get this kid?

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Aaron Maybin Scouting Report

Projected Draft Position

by FFToolbox Writers

Position: DE

School & Year/Status: Penn State - Sophomore

Height & Weight: 6'4 - 236 lbs.

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

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Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State

Aaron Maybin has wasted no time in becoming one of the most productive pass rushers in college football. Maybin was highly recruited out of high school in Maryland, and came to Penn State in 2006. After redshirting his first year on campus, Maybin played in every game of his redshirt freshman year. He recorded 12 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 1 forced fumble, and broke up a pass in coverage, in 13 games last season. Maybin came out of high school weighing only 220 pounds, but has already added 16 pounds of muscle. He has the frame to add more bulk without losing any speed, which is something NFL scouts will be looking at. Maybin has outstanding speed for his size, and is much stronger than his size would suggest. He does his best work coming off the edge and simply running by offensive tackles. Maybin isn't only a speed rusher though. He has excellent technique, and does a good job of using his hands to keep blocker from cutting his feet out from under him. Maybin is taking full advantage of his starting role this season, having tallied 35 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and even breaking up 2 passes in coverage. Maybin will be watched closely by NFL GMs because he's not only an excellent defensive end prospect, but his size and athleticism would make the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker a fairly easy one. If Maybin declares and has a good combine, he could go as high as the second round.

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PSU Football Notebook: Maybin center of attention for Trojans

Monday, December 29, 2008

By Ron Musselman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

LOS ANGELES -- Penn State All-American defensive end Aaron Maybin was a no-show yesterday, but Southern California's players and coaches are well aware of how destructive he can be on the field.

He finished the season with 12 sacks, the fourth-best total in the country.

"The biggest thing that impresses me about the guy -- obviously he's a tremendous athlete -- is his effort," Southern California offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian said. "He plays hard. He plays football the way you want it to be played.

"He doesn't slow up."

Maybin, 6 feet 4 and 235 pounds, was a first-team All-Big Ten pick. He finished sixth in the nation with 19 tackles for losses and forced a team-high three fumbles.

Trojans quarterback Mark Sanchez said it's hard not to notice Maybin when he watches tape of Penn State.

"The guy is sprinting all over the field," Sanchez said. "I haven't seen him walk once. I haven't seen him bend over and put the hands on his hips, a sign that you're tired. He's a phenomenal athlete.

"He's going to be fun to play against. Hopefully he doesn't get his hands on me."

Maybin was running with the second team Saturday after violating a team rule and then did not attend yesterday's Rose Bowl news conference.

"When we start warmups, he's with the first team," Penn State defensive tackle Jared Odrick said.

Maybin, a redshirt sophomore, and Odrick, a junior first-team All-Big Ten selection, are awaiting feedback from the NFL draft advisory committee before deciding if they are going to leave school a year early.

Maybin is projected as a first-round pick, while Odrick is expected to go in the second or third round.

Is better and would be a great pick up

I would rather have RAC coaching the Dline, while Mangini is the Defensive coach.

@bigbrownsfan said:

He sucks? LOL - ok. He sucks NOW because KC lost half of their offensive line over the last couple of seasons. He is/was a power back with speed. He is better than tap-dancing Nellie that we have now, I will say that.

So before everyone throws on their Buckeye Blinders and starts chanting "We Are" at me for my PSU ties, let me say this: we don't want him. He was a mouth when he played at State College, he was a whining brat when he was at PSU (hence the reason he never got to first string until his senior year) and Vermeil was right when he said "for some people it is time to take off the diapers".

LJ is a whiny, locker room disruption. We surely do not need those headaches to go along with the issues we already have. So I will pass on LJ......

Any RB couldve ran behind that o line.