Feels like the Raiders pick up a first win this week. Don't know why just feels like bad mojo in the air.

@hoorta said:

This is what I didn't agree with. Didn't take much to get the Hoyer Hater Fan Club in full Boo Flat Chorus.

Are you really that fucking stupid? Don't answer b.c you just are. Someone that wants Hoyer to start you are calling a hater. What a fucking idiot.

Putting Manziel in is Pettine ticket out of here.

This is the beginning of the end for Pettine. The owner is trying to force Manziel in. Bye Pettine, thanks for giving the Jags a first win.

@choco said:

I've bashed the Lil guy as much as anyone....but some of y'all are off your rocker.

I seriously believe the stereotypical football fan shares more intellectual real estate with females than males.

You pussies get all emotion, knee jerk reactions and irrational hyperbole ensue for days. Good fucking god....get a grip.

Emotion by nature is devoid of logic. If you have any fucking brains, try being a man and use that logic to balance the emotion.

Some of the most fickle, stupid little girls I've subjected myself to reading. Please grow a set.....

You're welcome.

You need to grow a set and stop crying about what people say on a forum. Blame johnny for sucking.

This is how I think your post went.

Start Hoyer, pray the Bills get the #1 overall pick (hasn't happened since 1985) then get a real QB.

@qcbrowner said:

Well at least JM handles the media better than Leaf did. He's pretty rock solid with the cliche answers. His MO is pretty much:

"I need to do better."

"Coach and I have sat down and talked about it, and we've moved on."

At least he has that part of the job done pretty well.

He is smart enough to say the right things to the media, but dumb enough to keep making those mistakes... In the end it doesn't matter b.c he is still doing stupid things.

When your owner falls for this crap you know the franchise is in trouble.

When you have two QBs you really have none. So when you have three you sit and hope the Bills can do something they haven't done since 1985 which is get a #1 pick...

I am afraid just like every time with Pettine the run defense will suffer this year. Teams the Browns play use he run game as a staple with defense. If they can't stop the run then the rest will be moot.

@brownsfanatic said:

Start johnny football. Remember how russel wilsons struggled almost his entire rookie season, if we have to go through that go through it. We drafted him in the 1st round so lets get him all the experience. Throw him in the fire vs pittsburgh

Russell Wilson has brains , something that Manziel is missing which is why he can never be compared to Russell.

It was a dumb move to say a deadline in the first place. You have the owner trying to shove Manziel down Pettine's throat and you have a new HC who wasn't first, Second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth choice that might be in over his head.

Johnny Manziel is looking more like Ryan Leaf each and every day.

Johnny's first time where money can't help him. Immature garbage QB... Just like I knew he would be.

Manziel didn't look that good.

Zombo said:

Sounds like you are 0% on him and you feel the need to post it in every fucking thread.

Zombo

Probably b.c you guys feel the need to respond in "every fucking thread"

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Biggest mistake is letting your dumb ass join the Browns Board.

"Boohoo this guy isn't 100% on Johnny Mistake."

Makese wish the Browns never draft Johnny Mistake.

Manziel is the biggest mistake this team will have made when all is said and done.

Gordon needs a suspension to set him straight.