I really don't know what to think about Mangini, but I will take the "best of luck Browns fans," because I think we're going to need it. I'm just glad that Cowher is not in the picture, I don't think I could have handled it. Bad drafts, bad coaching/personnel moves, bad whatever, we desperately need a turnaround.

Zombo said: Yeah, but only since 1999. We've got so many other priorities ... I'm sure we'll get around to looking into that. Zombo #28 in Run D Mr Z it is a big priority, right next to being next to last in sacks. See any run stuffing pass rushers out there- Orakapo?