Yup... have been since I first started seeing him... and then I looked.
Since then every other candidate I've looked at has paled in comparison. It's actually made it hard to put in the work on some of them. But now that I'm trying to rank the also-rans, I'm having to force myself.
So when Rosen doesn't want to play for Browns, or turns in to Ryan Leaf? I wouldn't even consider him if I'm Cleaveland.
If only... well he didn't. Go watch an entire game of his Boo, and get back to me... Lousy ERA? More like a flame throwing pitcher who can't find the strike zone on a regular basis.
We've been through all the outliers who significantly improved their completion % in the pros. The odds are against Allen doing so. Our wildly inconsistent Deshone Kizer actually had a better completion percentage than Allen in college- and now some guys want to draft his clone? No thanks.
Kizer had one of the best OL in college history. He had a lot more talent around him. His college coach even said he wasn't NFL ready. The schemes are completely different also. Do some research on Kelly's scheme vs Brett Vigens. Kelly runs more of a West Coast Offense. Shorter passes with less risk. Wyoming also runs a variant of the WCO, but they stretch the field Air Coryell style. They also rolled Allen out a lot because the OL was bad.
No one ever said that completion percentage guaranteed success. But an inaccurate college QB is only going to get more inaccurate in the NFL.
Not true Mathew Stafford was a big arm inaccurate qb coming out of college. Similar to Allen. Stafford had accuracy problems his first 6 years he didn't complete 60%. The last 3 years he's been around 66% a year. A QB can be coached to be more accurate. They're very similar players except Allen is more mobile and Staffords arm is a little stronger.
Old news Tom. I have long suspected not every player on the Browns roster "loves" playing for Hue. BTW you may well be right in that Williams isn't what he was cracked up to be. playing Peppers a mile off the ball, and his corners 5+ yards off the LOS when the other team is third and two. Go figure.
I hope this is just the early beginning of pre-draft smokescreen, but if the report is even 1\2 true Dorsey is already "locked in" on Josh Allen- he should be fired immediately. We can only hope when Hue coaches the Senior Bowl, he'll "feel the earth move" when he coaches Baker Mayfield.
What's wrong with Allen? Everyone is worried because he played for Wyoming, but he had same HC and OC as Wentz. Craig Boh the HC, coached on 3 National Championship teams with Nebraska. Allen is getting top notch coaching in college. Wyoming is actually a D1 school. Wentz played for a D1-a school and it's the same system.
Mayfield is small for the NFC north. He's what 6'1" They usually exaggerate the height too. A small QB in the AFC North, the cold, and wind. I just don't see anything special there. He gets excited when his team wins? I don't see all the leadership qualities everyone talks about. I see immaturity and some Manziel in him for sure. He'll fall come draft day. Unless Rosen and Darnold don't come out. By the time the process is over Allen will be the clear cut #1 QB.
he cannot carry the load for any team...he just is not good enough...he does not have the power or the vision...especially the vision...to me he is one level above trent richardson...and that's bad...
Crow is nowhere near as bad as Richardson. That's a bunch of bs. He's a career 4.3 ypc player. He has 800 yards this year on 4.4ypc with no QB play for the other team to respect. He had 950 yards last year on 4.8ypc. I would argue Crowell has been the Browns best offensive player the past two years. With 2300 all purpose yards for a team that's 1-30 over that span. Without any semblance of a passing game to keep the safeties away from the LOS. Richardson was a top 5 pick Crowell was an UDFA. Theirs really no comparison. Crowell is a solid RB.
Hue Jackson is the worst head coach i. the history of the NFL.
Corey Coleman was a waste of a pick. He is a fumble fingered homosexual who will NEVER amount to jack schidt
Myels Garrett was also a waste of a #1 #1 pick. He is at best, average. His talent was avaolable on rounds 3 and 4.
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WHAT A PIECE OF SCHIDT HUE JACKSON IS. AFTER THE GAME HE WALKED OVER TO DALTON.....DALTON SAID "YOU COULD HAVE HAD HIM" AND THEN HUE AND DALTON WALKED.OVER TO TALK TO MCCARRON.
MEANWHILE KIZER LOOKS ON AFTER DROPPED PASSES AND ODOOT HUE JACKSON PENALTIES.
FUKCKING CLASSLESS. ABSOLUTELY CLASSLESS.
My boy Ghoolie always calling it like it is. Your spot on in your assessment as always. I think by the draft Allen will be the consensus #1 QB. If Browns draft him, he will turn the franchise around. Rosen is Ryan Leaf all over again. Talented player who is an pooper. His teammates hate him, his coaches hate him. Browns need to stay away from him.
Kosar was about the same age -BUT- with way more experience in college, surrounded by a better NFL team, maybe better everything including drive and ability.
To totally judge Kizer now is difficult to do the jury is still way out on that one, potential maybe, I think so......with this band of gypsies who knows if we'll ever really know, if he survives this season. Name me one other NFL quarterback past or present in his exact situation right off hand, how'd they do?
Mathew Stafford was drafted #1 overall by an 0-16 team. He went 2-8 he had 2200 yards 13tds vs Kizer 1500 yards and 5 TDs.
I am hoping someone can help me out. I am a lifelong Browns fan from Iowa. I've been though the ups and downs and still wear my Metcalf jersey every Sunday. For my sons birthday in November we booked a trip to Cleveland to watch his basketball team (Calvs) on Friday night and my Browns on Sunday. I've always wanted to sit in the Dawg Pound and intend to for the game against the Jags. My question is, my kids are 14 and 12, should my wife and kids sit with me and is it kid friendly in the pound? Any advice for the Cavs game or anything else we should do while we are there? We fly in on the 17th landing at 10am and leave Sunday the 19th at 8pm. Thanks in advance, GO BROWNS
I'm a Lions fan, but I live in Ohio, so I've been to a few Browns games. Theirs nothing like that walk to the stadium on game day. Probably one of the best atmospheres in sports. Like others have said make sure you get up the Rock n Roll HOF. If you got time the Pro Football HOF isn't real far either and worth the trip.
As far as the Cavs my advice would be, start liking a real team like the Celtics. Cavs suck and Lechoke is a bum.
Appreciate the sentiment but please the Lions stink as well. They may stink a bit less than the Browns but Stafford is 55-62. I'm not hating on the Lions because you guys are the NFC's version of the Browns but the template for success isn't there. Yes Stafford has made the Lions better than a cellar dweller but that is about it.
BTW with the direction the Browns are heading I'd take Detroit's limited success in a heartbeat.
Stafford gets the least amount of help of any qb with a positive WPA (win percentage added) in NFL history. He has a game winning drive or 4th quarter comeback in 24.7% of his NFL starts. He's had a RB rush for 100 yards in 8 of 117 games the lowest rate in NFL history. He was drafted to the worse team in NFL history. The Lions have been a bad franchise but you can't put it on Stafford.
We've made a lot of strides over past 5 years. We actually have a winning record under Caldwell. We're not a great team, but coming from 0-16 and not winning in Lambeau in 26 years or winning a road game in 3 years, we have realty improved. If we get a RB to help Stafford we'll be a contender. We're probably a wild card team this season.
I'm a Lions fan and I have a little insight in to this. Lions went 0-16 in 2008. They drafted Stafford #1 and they went 2-14 in his rookie year, which he went 2-8 and missed 6 games. We did get blown out quite a few times, but it was a big step forward from the 2008 team. In 2010 Stafford only played 3 games, but he had 6tds and 1int in those games. The Lions went 6-10 and lost a lot of games that were close. The third year after 0-16, Stafford played his first full season. We won 10 games and made the playoffs the first time in 12 seasons. Stafford had 5000 yards and 40tds. So basically we went 2-14, 6-10, 10-6 after going 0-16. Depending on how the Browns finish this year will tell if progress really has been made. I'd say 4-12 would be a natural progression where you can say ok we improved.
Good game today by the way. I know I was dreading this game, as nobody wants to be the team to lose to a team without a win. Lions had a big game last week winning in Lambeau for the second time in 28 seasons. We were in a short week and came out flat for sure. The Lions in my opinion played one of their worse games today. The Browns are desperate and have nothing to lose, nobody wants to play a team like that. I will give up to Browns coaches a little bit, they came out with a great game plan and those first scripted plays were executed really well. Kizer played his best game perhaps.
Good Luck the rest of the way.
