unless we get a big name coach to jump on the holm-train

gotta say we give him another year....

@bigbrownsfan said:

What's his bowl record, again?

Glad you asked sir!

2001 Ohio State 7–5 5–3 3rd L Outback — —

2002 Ohio State 14–0 8–0 T-1st W Fiesta † 1 1

2003 Ohio State 11–2 6–2 2nd W Fiesta † 4 4

2004 Ohio State 8–4 4–4 5th W Alamo 19 20

2005 Ohio State 10–2 7–1 T-1st W Fiesta † 4 4

2006 Ohio State 12–1 8–0 1st L BCS NCG † 2 2

2007 Ohio State 11–2 7–1 1st L BCS NCG † 4 5

2008 Ohio State 10–3 7–1 T-1st L Fiesta † 11 9

Alright well lets take a look at this... even with tress's last three bcs game losses he is still 3-3 in BCS games since those first 3 are in the w column. still an amazing accomplishment seeing that 3 of those games were against the number 2 team in the country during a national championship game. Also take into account that last years texas team was a national championship quality team as well.

I honestly dont think you can knock the man (outside the 2006 nc game) for not beating one of the top 3 teams in the country every year for the last 3 years during this bowl game skid. Does anyone honestly think ohio state expected to go to the 2007 nc game after being ranked #5 before the last week where everyone lost?

Its easy to say that ohio state struggles against out of conference competition just because of the last 4 losses... but looking back at the quality of opposition we are playing its usually the very best team from that conference that we are playing...

oh and in discussion on the "bogus call" you claim about the 2003 fiesta bowl

"In the age before coaches' challenges and referee reviews were included within the NCAA rules, the call was subsequently validated by the National Association of Sports Officials[7], and was also selected by Referee Magazine as one of the "Best 18 Calls of All Time."[8]"

but yeah what would that magazine know compared to some hilljack on bleacher report