Steelers: 543 total yards

Browns 197 total yards

That's all that really matters in the end. SO MEASUREMENT THIS BITCHES!!! While I am with everybody that is was a bad call and the Steelers got lucky and away with one it still doesnt excuse the fact that Ben,Hines,Holmes,and Miller lighted the Browns defense up like a Christmas Tree much like I predicted would on Friday when Zombo was spewing out his bullshit about how the Browns defense is back and much better and would shut the Steelers down...

All I gotta say is the Steelers had 540 total yards of offense so and outgained the Browns by nearly 400 yards so why dont the Browns fans start focusing on that instead of continually whining and pissing and moaning about the measurement call which Ill admit was a bad call but it still wouldnt have changed the outcome of the game in any sort of way what so ever...

@lumbergh said:

FYI the Browns have not allowed an offensive TD in seven qtrs, 24 opponent possessions.

FYI the BILLS STINK!!! They have scored a total of 20 points in their last 3 games and their only win of the season was against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who have yet to win a game and are one of the worst teams in football. So keeping them out of the end zone for a whole game doesnt tell me anything because it's as simple as this the BILLS STINK!! The Browns much like they never do wont stop Big Gay Ben, they wont stop the Steelers running game,and their offense like by yo-yo Anderson wont figure out a way how to score against the Steelers defense. If the Steelers offense is clicking like it was on all cylinders like it was in the first half of the San Diego game here in Pittsburgh 2 weeks ago the Steelers should be up by 20 plus points in this game going into halftime much like they were that game against the Chargers...

@mr.-t said:

And you pride yourself on whipping up on an expansion team, (10 years new/old) Now you can go stand in the mirror and wave your terrible towel with excitement. But it will be a short lived.

The Browns are on their way back. I dont expect a winning season this year but after watching the stoolers play a couple of games, I can see them loosing big to the Browns.

The Steelers arent going to overlook the Browns Mike Tomlin would never let them do that and that's all that matters. I will however overlook the Browns and just see no way how the Browns offense scores at all on the Steelers in this game. This is pretty much a warm-up game for the Steelers as far as Im concerned before the real big game next week at Heinz Field against Favre,AP and the Vikings. It's a good game to keep Ben rolling which he will. A good game to ease Parker and Troy back in and have them both have solid games. A good game to have Mendenhall continue to run the ball well and build up more confidence. And a good game to for Ziggy Hood the Steelers number 1 pick who will be filling in for Aaron Smith to play a lot and play well and build some confidence as well. After the game the Browns played against the Bengals 2 weeks ago I was close to maybe taking them seriously this week for this game. But after seeing that performance last week against the Bills even in a win which Buffalo should be totally ashamed of I am not worried in the least bit about this game. Big Gay Ben and this offense will continue to roll and score points while the defense will have it's best game of the season and begin to get back on track with Troy back in the lineup. Steelers win this one going away take it to the bank...

@lumbergh said:

Intercept his pass and run it in for a TD, like Detroilet did, and like Cincy did.

Yea and much like he did in both of those games he will bounce right back and throw another TD or two against the Browns D just like he did against the Bengals and Lions after the interceptions in both of those games. And btw the interception for a TD in the Cincy game was Holmes fault for running the wrong route not Ben's. Ben was not the reason the Steelers lost the Bears and Bengals games.

Zombo said:

Me too.

Everyone of those sold-out coaches that laughed at us as studio hosts last week would have LOVED that win as a coach.

That was a coaches game. Any tiny thing goes wrong and you could lose field position, momentum, and the game.

The game was close from start to finsish, with each side trying not to give up the big play.

Our defense hit hard, swarmed, got after the passer, gang-tackled ... what more could you ask for?

Everyone is acting like we just out-stumbled the 76 Bucs or couldn't beat a college team. We just shut down Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson, Terrel Owens and Lee Evans for three hours without giving them a whiff of the end zone.

This team is playing VERY tough. Two weeks in a row. Tough Defense. Tough Special Teams. Tough Running Game ... If Anderson develops some timing with these young receivers and gets guys like Momass, Cribbs and Harrison in space .... we can be a good football team the rest of the year.

Yeah, I said it ... Good Team This Year.

I'm not sure where all the whiney pansies that cared more about "thanks buttons" and "QB ratings" than tough-ass wins went to, but it's been kind of nice around here the past couple days ... we're talking football like adults during Steeler week.

This is the toughest Browns team the Steelers have faced since Belichick.

Zombo

Yea one big difference Zombo Trent Edwards was playing QB for the Bills this week and Big Gay Ben will be playing QB for the Steelers and whether you will admit it or not that's the biggest difference of all. Ben has been playing lights out the first 5 games of this season and he always lights up the Browns. The Steelers offense has scored 86 points the last 3 weeks and is averaging 28.6 points a game in that span. I expect that number to stay the same this week against the Browns if not go up some...You will find out right away come Sunday that this is not the Buffalo Bills offense or Bills football team that the Browns went up against last week...Look for Holmes and Heath Miller to have big games receiving this week...

@the-gipper said:

A 10-6 record will still be enough probably to win this division. On any given Sunday in the NFL one team can beat another. Complacency may crop in a bit to dull the edge. And yes, I actually do foresee BR missing some games...though you may be right about the schedule. No one, no matter how good or bad they were the previous season is guranteed to repeat that success or failure.....if that was the case then the Browns would have been 10-6 last year, right?

Im calling the Steelers to go 13-3 this year maybe even 14-2 if they stay injury free and Ben doesnt go down. Maybe I sound like a homer and that's fine, but I am also realistic as well and if the Steelers stay healthy as I just mentioned they have the potential to dominate with that type of schedule they have. The defense is still all there and the offense with the line,rb's,and wr's as a whole have all improved from this year to last. Along with the kick and punt return game having more speed with Stefan Logan and Mike Wallace, and Daniel Sepulveda returning from injury to do the punting duties. And while Big Gay Ben isnt the most flashy QB numbers wise and isnt going to put up Brady and Manning like numbers he knows how to do one thing that Ill take anyday over good stats or anything else and that's win football games at critical times in the game when he has too. It's all he has done since he has been the starting QB for the Steelers since 2004.

While people are still insistant upon the fact that the Steelers win because of their defense and a lot of that is true, they still dont win 2 out of the last 4 Super Bowls without Big Gay Ben period. It's why previous QB's the Steelers had like O'Donnell,Kordell,and Maddox that also had great defenses around them failed because they didnt know how to win and be clutch and great like Ben knows how to be when he absolutely has to be...

I agree with pretty much everything you say Gipper with the exception of the Steelers record being 10-6. There is no way the Steelers will lose 6 games looking at their schedule unless they have major injuries at QB with Ben going down and on defense losing a guy like Harrison or Polamalu. They play the 3rd easiest schedule in the league and play a lot of the tougher games they do have at home such as the Titans,Chargers,Vikings, and Packers just to name a few. They also play teams like the Lions,Raiders,Chiefs,and Broncos who are all still mediocre to bad football teams that just do not match up well with the Steelers. Plus, the Browns and Bengals as well with all due respect will have a hard time stealing one win from the Steelers this season because they still are not improved enough on both sides of the ball.

While the Steelers could lose a few of those home games I just mentioned, they will win more of them then they lose. They play the Titans and Chargers in primetime at Heinz Field, and the Steelers record in primetime at home since 2004 Ben's first year as the starting QB and under Tomlin as well since he has been here since 2007 has been damn near perfect...Maybe Ill be wrong and you will be right and they will lose 6 games but I just dont see it. They have too much talent on defense, and the offense this season with a healthier running game and a better receiving core and kicking game as well with Stefan Logan returning kicks and Sepulveda punting make this Steelers team very talented across the board and very tough to beat i they are on the top of their game week in and week out.

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

OK, and here we go on the questions for the Defending Champions. (Have to grudgingly give them their due)

1. Will their quarterback continue to be able to pull rabbits out of his hat and make clutch plays to pull out games as he has done often in the past?

He is what he is Not always pretty..just a scrappy Warrior of a QB. He will continue this until the Beating he takes Makes him Stop Playing.

2. Has the Steelers offensive line which started last year in patchwork fashion improved?

This line has Improved as a PASSBLOCKING Line. The Run Blocking still fails to Impress Me. This will keep the Offense a little below par for a Superbowl Contender.

3. Can their Defense repeat as the #1 ranked defense in the league and pull their 22nd ranked offense along with them to win most games?

D is Solid... It will continue until teams figuer out There is ONE Way to beat the Steeler D. Patience to run quick 4 to 8 yard Pass plays and inch you way down field . Have a Good kicker and a Good D. Beat our guys in close games.

4. Will running back Warner Mendenhall contribute to the Steelers running game?

Not sure what Warner means I know him as , Rashard Jamal Mendenhall. He fumbles too much and Our Run blocking is Blaaa... The Running game is an Afterthought in Pittsburgh. I would love that the Running game WAS effective. But it really isnt. The Steelers will still win a lot of games despite this fact.

5. What will be the Steelers final record for the 2009 season?

12-4 (11-5 "IF" the Browns , finally steal one) But its all Just a guess...

Another point that should be made is that the Steelers punting and kick return game are going to be much improved from last season as well. Daniel Sepulveda is going to punt the ball 1000 times better then guys like Berger and Ernster did for the Steelers last season. He is going to pin a lot of offenses back deep in their own end which is going to make the Steelers number 1 ranked defense even that much tougher for opposing offenses to deal with.

Also, the Steelers kickoff and punt return game is going to much better as well because of the emergence of a guy the Steelers picked up from the CFL named Stefan Logan. How anybody in the NFL allowed the defending Super Bowl Champs to get this guy is just mind-boggling I dont know if Browns fans or other fans have seen this guy in action yet the last 3 preseason games but Ill tell you right now this guy is a flat out gamebreaker. If anybody has watched him he has Devin Hester like return ability and is capable of taking one to the house anytime he gets his hands on the ball. He is going to return a bunch of kicks for TD's this season for sure, and give the Steelers offense much much better field position when they begin drives.

@dawgpound3 said:

I never mentioned Stallworth. I just mentioned Swann. BTW, I am done discussing and talking with a stooler fan.

Yea you're done because you have nothing to say because you know you're wrong. I clearly said compare Slaughter's number to both guys Swann and Stallworth not just one if you look up above at what I wrote. By the way you never answered my question when you think the Browns will be in the Super Bowl much less win one?? I gotta feeling it's not going to happen this season and probably next as well. At least the Sony Reed guy that post here is a logical Browns fan who is realistic and admits that this team currently is no good and is years away from seriously competing. And then there are morons like you who sit there and say the Browns are better and deeper then the Steelers at rb,wr,and o-line like you did a few weeks back in the one post you made. If any Browns fan on this board thinks that the Browns are actually going to make the playoffs or are close to catching up and competing with the Steelers in this division they seriously need to have their head examined along with their football knowledge...

@dawgpound3 said:

Yadda, yadda, yadda. I could name a ton more amazing catches than Santionio Holmes' catch. Seriously, that catch was lame. The best catch ever made was by a guy named Randy Moss. Oh yeah. It's not a superbowl catch, but it's a xxxxing great catch by Moss.

This picture will make you forget about Holmes real quick.

Dude you have no credibility at all. Especially when you made a post bringing up that snow game with the Bills and the Browns from 2007 which meant nothing and won you nothing yet you're still trying to pass that off as some great win in Browns history. You must be grasping at straws at great games you have seen and witnessed if you had to pull that worthless game up. Show me a Braylon Edwards great catch of signifigance Dawg?? Great catches and plays are not just based on the catch but based more so on when they are made and what games they are made in. Randy Moss did make a great catch there last year against the Jets. But what did that catch and game mean?? Nothing!!! As a matter of fact, the Patriots ended up losing that game in overtime right after that catch was made. Plus, Moss is a jinx and will never win a Super Bowl. He was on the 2 highest scoring teams in NFL history in the 98 Vikings and the 07 Patriots both or at least one of them should have won a Super Bowl and both of those teams with Moss on them gagged. Ill take future hall of famer Hines Ward who has broken every single Steelers receiving record known to man anyday of the week over Randy Moss.

@choco said:

so you've got one guy sayin it, and that makes it fact?

your dumber than i thought.

Well considering Steve Sabol is the president of NFL Films and is a main face for the NFL and is the only person to ever attend all 43 Super Bowls I would say it gives the catch a lot of credibility. Now I probably wouldnt call it the greatest catch of all-time even I think that's a bit of a stretch but other then David Tyree's grab 2 years ago against the Patriots, and John Taylor's game winning TD to win Super Bowl 23 in 1989, Santanio Holmes td catch ranks right up there as one of the greatest catches and greatest plays in Super Bowl history. Ask any NFL expert on tv or around the league how signifcant Holmes catch was and they will all tell you it ranks right up there as one of the top 3 catches ever as well. I know you hate the Steelers like most Browns fans on this board do and that's fine, but sitting there and saying it's not one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl History because of what it meant is absolutely ridiculous...

The main thing I noticed just watching the game as well is how horrible Anderson still is, and how the Browns so-called "improved" defense under Mangini pretty much got torched by Aaron Rodgers and the Packers first team offense.

AdaM said:

Now thats a catch....

Holmes was basically standing in the corner of the endzone waiting for the ball. He didn't even have a defender on him.

Yea you're right it was a routine catch no doubt. Holmes only had 3 xxxxing defenders between him and the ball. I am sure Braylon Edwards would have caugh I mean dropped it like he does everything else that hits his xxxxing hands...

@choco said:

greatest catch of all time? talk about a homer....holy shit. to even think that was better than 'the immaculate reception' is fuking laughable at best.....

its not even the greatest catch in your franchise history, let alone the catch of the year, catch of all superbowls, or all-time.

you get a pass though....i can see how it would be difficult to watch TV with your head constantly up your own ass.

Well here is the video of Sabol calling Holmes catch the greatest catch of all-time so there ya have moron...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/pittsburgh-steel...eatest-TD-catch

@kosar_win said:

Actually, I believe you are confusing the Squealer's SB game with the time Eli Manning led the Giants down the field to beat the Patriots. You know the one, where Plax pinned the football against his helmet to make the Greatest Catch in Super Bowl History.

No I have the game and the catch right. Santanio Holmes catch with 34 seconds left to win the game has already been named by Steve Sabol the head of NFL films as the greatest catch in not only Super Bowl history but greatest catch of all-time. As for the Giants game with the Pats it was David Tyree that caught the pass against his helmet you xxxxing moron not Plaxico Burress. So I guess your credibility is already shot there with that statement...

@flugel said:

Okay, remember what I said about moral victories not counting earlier today? There's an exception to every rule folks!

- Tom F. (Your buddy Flugel gets a Basketball Jones when we double dribble Steeler QBs on hard surfaces)

Moral victories how?? Did the Browns put Big Gay Ben out for the entire playoffs with this hit?? Did it cause the Steelers to lose any playoff games and make Ben play horrible in the 2 playoff games and Super Bowl?? Oh that's right the Browns did none of that and Ben went on to have one of the greatest end of game drives ever in the history of the Super Bowl, culminated with one of if not the greatest catch and play ever in Super Bowl History by Santanio Holmes...

@snatch98 said:

I've been keeping my mouth shut but I had to respond to this comment and the thread in general. FIrst off the preseaon game was played on a Thursday, there is a ungodly amount of construction downtown because of road work and preparing for the G20 summit in September. The Casino just opened as well so traffic patterns are a damn nightmare. I wasn't really paying attention to the stands but it seemed like a good number of people showed up for a PRESEASON GAME. As far as Timmons is concerned the comment above is asinine. Timmons is going to be a monster this year. Look what he did last year in limited time on the field. He closes as fast as Polamalu in the open field, hits heavy and has good instincts. Yes the Steeler fans are going to miss Larry because he was a great steeler but from a on the field perspective Larry was going to be on the bench this year anyway. Why do you think he essentially forced a release/trade etc?

I get it everyone here hates the Steelers just like I hate the Browns but at least make some sense. There are a few Retards around here but I know for a fact there are plenty of knowledgeable individuals here. You may want to make it seem that way.

EDIT: ANd the last i checked our preseason game wasn't blacked out, like yours is about to be....so much for people not buying tickets and showing up for the game on thursday.

Saying that the Steelers are going to miss Larry Foote and that Timmons is not going to be as good or better then Foote might be the stupidest thing ever posted on this site...Did any Browns fans happen to catch how good Timmons played last season and what a huge impact he had on the Steelers number 1 ranked defense...

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Dude , WE see 2 or 3 Threads on the 1st couple pages on this Message Board degrading the Steelers every time we pop on (Year Round) ? WE don't start the Threads ... If there was NO Thread there would be Little to NO response from us. Obsession ?? Yes there is an Obsession... but we are not Obsessed with your underachieving Squad from Americas North Coast. We spend (at least I do ) 10 times more time on Our Boards. I just stop by once a day or so to see what the Topics are. And am AMAZED at the BS I see flying around here as if it were Gospel truth. Sad Sad sad.... And we have to be threatened to be Banned because we speak up ?? Now there is a Set of BALLS !!! Sack up and hear Both sides clearly. Not downing the Browns , as I said I respect the Organization and it History. We were at the feet of the Browns for a LONG Time , and Now that we are not we have to hear a bunch of fabricated BS ?? Just Respect and YOU will in return Gain Respect. And dont judge us all because we have some azz Wipe Rouge fans

running around... We ALL do !!

It's all the same shit too. The Steelers cheated to win all of their Super Bowls,Harrison is on roids,Ben is gay. As you said everything that is mostly said on these boards by a lot of these Browns fans is fabricated. Ive said it before and Ill say it again when the Browns finally do beat the Steelers which I am pretty certain they will at some point again in my lifetime I will come on here and give my props. I'm sure when the Browns do finally win against the Steelers you will see Browns fans on here shooting their Jiz acting like they just won the xxxxing Super Bowl.

Formerly Stone said:

Not necessarily...I have met plenty of Browns fans who are willing to say "yeah, we suck, and have for a long time, but they're my team and I love them" You have to have all the respect in the world for fans like that. It's idiots who, because the allegation is against a Steeler player they "know" the truth and drag down the other members of this board by saying they all "know"!

I know dude believe me I got two pretty close friends that have been Browns fans all their lives and both of them while they dont like the Steelers dont spew out half of the stupid shit that comes out of some of these pathetic morons on this site...