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If the Browns draft Garrett, we plan to be there. If they don't draft him, I'm not sure if I'll survive a brain aneurysm. ?
That said, we're driving down from Austin day of the game, returning home same day, etc. That game is day after my birthday (which is normally a good thing - they have won a lot around my birthday).
Considering all ticket options at this point. Would be great to meet up with some of you.
I do honestly get the vibe this was a chess move to set up the checkmate they envision in their head and it could be something like this.
As long as the goal isn't to actually keep Brock as more than a back-up, this could be a genius stroke.
Agreed. Hell, even if they turned around and swapped Brock to a QB starved team for a low round pick, it's still a good move.
Sashi is becoming a wheeler dealer.
There's speculation on Twitter that BO & the picks were acquired to swap for Jimmy G.
1. OLB Myles Garrett
2. S Jamal Adams
33. FS Budda Baker
and let's throw in:
Desmond King, CB Iowa (assuming he's still available by then)
Thoughts?
Depends on who we have as DC.
If we're still 3-4, I want Allen (stack him with Shelton & Des Bryant), and I really like Adams (he could probably even rover to LB at times), though I'd prefer Foster or Cunningham.
But if we're 4-3, then YES, absofuckinlutely Garrett, Adams, Baker, best avail CB.
Four defensive picks.
"If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast, and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Fix the fucking defense."
Gregg "The Wolf" Williams
Hometown WR-Zay Jones-ECU...22 catches 1 game(ncaa D1 record)..D1 Single Season Receptions record-158..D1 Career leader in receptions-399...in 4 seasons,did not miss a game 49...399 receptions....4279 yards...23 TD's...6'1" 197 lbs. with huge hands that can flat out fly & break some ankles...Gordon who?
Met his old man, former Cowboys LB Robert Jones, at dinner one night, here in Austin. Had a great talk. Super nice dude. As soon as he said he played for the Cowboys, I said "I liked you up to that point." But we talked about Zay ... and so I've followed him a bit this year. Kid looks like a player.
If not taken in the 2nd round, safety Justin Evans from A&M.
I'm hoping we take Evans in the 2nd round. (I personally want all defensive players in the first 4 picks.)
Zombo said:
Trent Green acquired by the Chiefs for the 12th overall pick from the Rams. Started 88 consecutive games for them, two playoff seasons, 3 4,000yard seasons, two Pro Bowls
Mark Brunell for a 3rd and 5th (3 pro Bowls, 3 playoffs)
Alex Smith for a 2nd and 2nd (Pro bowl, 4 consecutive winning years)
Matt Hasslebeck for moving up 7 spots in the first and a third. (super bowl, 3 pro bowls)
Brad Johnson for a first and a third (super bowl, two pro bowls)
Not Hall of Famers, but a collective 11 Pro Bowls and two Super Bowl appearances since the last time we had any stability at all at the position.
We need a starting QB and we have a shitload of draft picks. I hope we don't sit back and watch other teams land starters while we dick around with reclamation projects and middle round reaches.
Garappolo will be starting for someone next year. I don't know if that team will be fools or kings, but if we throw Grif and Kess back out there then we are not really trying.
If Trubisky is a great as some seem to think, then I'm all in on that too.
My model for this team, and perhaps our Brass' too, is the 1989 Cowboys. Coming off a 3-13 team under Landry, Jimmy Johnson cut bait with all the vets and went young, young, young and got a treasure trove of draft picks
The result?
1-15
7-9
11-5 Playoffs
13-3 Super Bowl
But now, Jimmy didn't fuck around at the QB position when he took over. He drafted Aikman first overall and then, just to be sure, drafted Steve Walsh with a first round supplemental pick the same year.
Two first round picks to make sure he got the position right ... and you fuckers are afraid to spend one on the position.
I don't know if there is an Aikman in the draft, I don't know if Jimmy Garapollo is a 10 year Pro Bowl type guy ... but we need to stop fucking around at the most important position in sports. We've brought in about 30 losers while the other three teams in the division trot out the same quarterback and the same coach every freaking year and never draft in the Top 10 ... because they got it right.
Now get it right. Like Trub? draft him. Like Jimmy G? trade for him. Fuck, go ahead trade for Jimmy, draft Mahomo and bring Kessler back too.
But if we are still fucking around with RG3 and Kessler in year two of the plan ... then it's not really a plan.
It doesn't take five fucking years to get good in this league, it can be done in two ... But you gotta get the coach and the QB right. So this coach better get cast a big ol' line in the QB pool this year, because no one has more draft collateral, and no one needs a QB more.
Zombo
Wow ... I missed the boat on those trades. For some reason, I keep thinking Smith to KC was a free agent. But yeah, some great numbers to support your argument, Z.
Though, didn't they go to teams who were already in good position to succeed? Trading for a guy now .. He would be wasted while they build all the other pieces around him. Then he's 5 years down the road, if he stays healthy that long, before the team is ready to compete .. But then you're looking for a franchise QB all over again.
I wanted Garrapolo coming out of college. Just don't like the idea of giving up a high pick on an unknown commodity ... But now that I think about it, all college draft picks are unknown commodity. The words 'Courtney Brown' come to mind.
With 2 high picks, in a defense deep 1st round, we could get 2 difference makers for the front 7. Garrett opposite Ogbah? Then an impact linebacker? And IF (big if) they can lock up Collins, the defense is immediately better. (again, if the draft picks live up to their billing)
Then in round 2, add an OLine, and maybe a good, all around TE, and you start to improve the offense. ( Or maybe even a safety or CB. )
Hey, I want a franchise guy too, but nothing about Jimmy G. or the first 3 guys off the board (Trubisky, Watson, Kizer) ... Jump out and say franchise.
Who knows anymore ... We all want the team to be better .. Infinitely better, and we don't care how they do it .... Just want them to get it done.
I just wish it was a quick fix. Thank God I'm right at the half century mark ... Might see a Super Bowl appearance in my life. Lol
Unless it's a future 1st round pick, beyond 2017, no way. With 2 top 10 picks, the Browns can get 2 defensive studs, some combination of :
1. Garrett or Allen
and
2. Foster/Cunningham/Williams/Adams
Hell, seen some rumblings that project some of the QBs dropping to the 2nd round. So we know as much about the current draft eligible QBs as we do about Jimmy G. Nobody knows it's they're worth reaching for.
Trading away a high pick for a QB, regardless of his talent, and putting him behind that offensive line, is a waste. He'll end up in the hospital in preseason.
Side note : Last backup QB I can think of that got traded for a high pick, and ended up being worth anything, was Favre (who was a 2nd round draft pick), when GB gave Atlanta a 1st ... And I think at that time, he hadn't played for Atlanta at all and not much was known about his NFL potential.
Wear OSU gear. You'll get envy instead and you don't have to betray your roots and cheer for some enemy team. As for NFL...for the time being fuck it. I'll check in on the national game and if it's exciting I'll watch. If not...well its nice to have Sunday afternoon free.
I wore my Buckeye gear to a Longhorns game and got people yelling "O-H!" ... except one person booed and said she was from up north.
I told her everyone has flaws.
i'm from Ohio but live out of state now. I get sympathy whenever i wear my Browns gear
I live in Austin, Texas. Have lived all over the US. I get the same reactions. I have had people point and laugh.
People down here LOVED to comment while we had Johnny Drunkball.
God yesterday I watched possibly the best game of the year and now this travesty. It reaffirms my position of no more browns until they can consistently not be an embarrassment. I don't require them to win the super bowl or even make the playoffs. I Just don't want to feel like an idiot when I wear a browns cap.
I wear my Browns gear like a badge of honor ... It means we're tough ( even if means you can question our taste in football teams ), and it also means we're loyal.
I've been a fan for 40 years ... and will continue to be so. I know people who've jumped off the Browns to other teams, to include the fuckheads in yellow and black. I'm Browns or nothing.
I had a doctor appt a few weeks ago, and my doctor said "Is that a Browns cap? God bless you." And I said "I don't need pity. I cheer for this team because I want to."
I've told all my friends who are Bungles fans, as well as the friend of mind who jumped from Cleveland to Pittsburgh ... "I'll cheer for 0-16 Cleveland before I ever cheer for Cinci or Pittsburgh."
The good news is Brownies get the ball to start the half.
The bad news is that means the offense will take the field.
i wonder what goes through jim brown's head as he watches these games
That he's currently a better player than 95% of the Browns roster .............
We're regressing. Earlier in the season we were good for the 1st 30 min. 🥷
I almost commented that it was below our 30 minute average .... haha ... This team looks like a train full of flaming dumpsters going off a bridge ....
so is Haden
It's bad enough he can't stay healthy, but he's just beyond ridiculously inconsistent. Looks great half the time, looks like he doesn't belong on the field half the time. Interesting that he's gone in the toilet since getting paid A TON of money.
And the rout begins ........... Almost looked like a football team for 28+ minutes ............
2 downs to get 2 yds ... if you don't make it, they're on the goal line. JFC, just run it twice.
