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I didn't know that part of WWI - I'd like to see the Smithsonian one of these days, and see that Flag they made. What a great story
about the Scots. What a sad story for the troops on the two ill-fated ships. I don't remember seeing this bit of history at the Wright-Pat
Air Force Museum - which is spectacular to see - 4 giant hangars, an all day adventure.
American Red Cross erected monument on cliffs over looking the area in 1920, pretty impressive structure.
Bit of Military history you guys may or may not know off, back home in Scotland on Isle of Islay they have been holding memorial services for two US troop carrying ships which were lost of the coast of the island during WW1, there has been a documentary made of this but not sure would be available to view in US at moment, might as it on BBC America sometime or YouTube, but very interesting stories behind he two tragedies. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-43988158
Accurate and fair review. My question (and i'm too lazy to look it up myself) how does this for a 3rd start compare to say Mariotta or Winston from 2 years ago? Guys who were starting right away on shitty teams.
Here you go Mark O,
accuracy and Ints seem the big worry compared to the other two guys, and with those traits being his issues coming out of college, lets hope he can sort them out.
Class way to go out though.
https://www.uninterrupted.com/watch/Yg27kIi6/andrew-hawkins-moves-on?playlist=6gQFCzfj
@ghoolie said:
OH MY GOD, THIS IS THE FUNNIEST FUCKING THING EVER IN BROWNS HISTORY.
So Ghoulie, what would be your move if if you were the GM after that video coming out and player basically not wanting to come to Cleveland ?, would you still Draft him in the knowledge your likely only gonna have him for 4 years until his rookie contract runs out and he goes elsewhere.
Lets hear the all knowledgeable Ghoulie's thoughts on who the Browns should draft at #1 and #12.
OK, that's cool. I don't mind that for getting things revved up.
But my question is this: What the fuck is that statue in the background? I have never seen that. It looks like some gnomes or trolls with flames of bacon coming up behind them. WTF?
Gipper,
Thought you'd know that statue is memorial to Cleveland Firefighters, it's been there for years.
Instead of looking at the guy no one circled here with the 3rd down marker in his hand with a big red vest right at the 16 yd line?
Give me a break. if you every played QB at all you know that's were to look, not some damn official who can go where he wants. Worst excuse ever.
All I'm trying to say was that's what Hoyer was following and if the official is normally standing right in front of the 3rd down marker guy, you would often assume that the official is who QB's might look at as the guide to where LOS was, that was just the question I asked in the initial post as to what the guidelines were for the officials in these situation. Just showing indicator as to why Hoyer stupidly did what he done, not making any excuses for him.
@douche-nozzle said:
I'm pretty sure that a QB is busy watching his receivers and several other things about the 22 players on the field. I don't think a QB pays any attention to where an official might be standing.
Original excuse though
Well I think if your actually able to see the Video of the clip, you will see that Hoyer knows exactly where the Official is and thats the exact spot where he holds up and moves sideways as he throws making sure he doesnt cross what he thought was the LOS.
Having been to the game and annoyed by our 4th Quarter performance, went back and watched it again on TV and noticed the Linesman moving 5yds downfield from the LOS when Hoyer threw that TD pass. Not being up on the exact rules of how officials are meant to place themselves, having looked through a lot of the film for the rest of the game they seem to stay on the LOS until the ball goes by the line or if its an obvious pass they may move slightly up the line, but on this occasion the Linesman moved 5yds upfield pretty much right away and obviously looks like Hoyer expecting him to be stood on the LOS kept the ball until last moment and threw what he thought was a good TD.
Rumor I am hearing is that the Browns may want to actually get two of the Top Ten picks in this draft.
They would use their #4 pick perhaps on Watkins....but then use their #26 plus their multple picks in the draft to move up from #26 to 8,9,10 to select Teddy Twatwater if he slides to those slots.
It would take a big package of up to 3-4 picks to move up that far, but that would give the Browns both Watkins and Bridgewater.
I was saying the exact same thing, with all indication of Browns going all out to win this year, why not even use next years #1 pick for trading back up, as if all goes well that pick would be in the 20's next year anyway.
I had vision of if Browns went D with 4th pick on Clowney, and then moving back up to 8 or 9 to get either Watkins or QB, but def think jumping back up into top 10 again would be a good move this year.
Will I have to use something like Stubhub to get tickets or will I be fine on the Browns official website?
Browns official site would likely be fine depending which game you wanted to go see, Stubhub may be better or other such sites to pay a little bit more for better seats which wont be available through the browns site. Were you planning on coming over for more than one game, if this likely to be a one off trip or at least a rare one, sometimes cheaper in long run to come over when two home games in a row and spend 10 days across, plenty things to do if its your first trip across.
Carucci is precisely correct. As bad as Weeden sucks, they have seen Campbell every day since he has been here and have no apparent interest in turning to him to guide this team. As he noted, like the Angel of Death in Egypt, they passed over Campbell to give the starting job to Hoyer when Weeden went down injured. And they went back to Weeden when Hoyer got hurt.
I reiterate: Weeden has the next two games against tough opponents KC and Balt. to prove himself. Then after they bye, if he doesn't improve, then the give the ball to Campbell
(or Vince Young...or Matt Leinert...or who knows)
I dont think you can afford to keep giving Weeden the start anymore if there are any hope left of squeezing into the playoffs, Campbell has got to be put in. A career 60+% comp, and never a season with more Int than TD's is a lot better option that what we are seeing from Weeden.
Below is the Stats for WR this season so far by Yds per game. Gordon is in amongst what you would call all Elite recieves in this League, so why would anyone trade that assist away in the hope of getting another one anywhere like it. We took the risk on the kid with 2nd round pick in the supplemental draft and while he plays we have a WR we have not seen for many years, so suspension looming or not keep hold of him, and hope he stays clean for a couple of years so the Drug policy reverts back to as if he never been tested positive, and he will be starting with a clean slate, and hopefully by then he will realise what a oppurtunity he has been given to become a great WR in this league.
Jimmy Garoppolo, out of Eastern Illinois (Tony Romo's College) FCS QB, but getting some buzz already and few higlights seen, looks like could be worth scouting more come draft time.
Now lets get ready to play some Football, no more distractions required.
I just want to see one game. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen any time soon - can't afford to fly to Cleveland, and the Wembley games sell out pretty much instantly, except for the £150-£200 tickets.
Correspond with Howiedawg and Garth or Kmac who come over every year. They might give you some hints on how to come over inexpensively.
Unfortunately it is quite an expensive trip over, think H & G just hide the expense from their wives, and myself its usually my one holiday a year which purposedly save for that reason. Easier with H & G as can share the hotel costs, coming over on your own is bit more expensive. But certainly worth the expense that is for sure.
Blows my mind this thread is 20 deep about a 4th string QB......Only Browns fans give a shit about a 4th string QB
When your 4th string Qb might be just as good as your 1st I think you always have to take some interest especially when its one of Lombardi's love child interests. But yes I know what your saying, It would be good to just have that QB that is head and shoulders better than the others rather than this 2nd guessing every year as to who might be starting come opening day.
Zombo said:
I think Hoyer is strictly competition for Thad, I don't see two those two having similar athletic abilities as Weeds and Camps who are big boys with big arms ... but apparantly Camps is looking Bigger and Better so far ...
Yeah was just reading that myself, and if honest I can quite easily see Campbell pushing ahead of Weeden come pre-season games. I am sure Chud and Co. wont be stubborn enough to keep going with Weeden if they are seeing Campbell as the obvious better QB to start for the Browns, So all good as far as I'm concerned think I'm having prob one the best feeling about an upcoming season as had in good few years.
