I came to this board months back after Seneca was dealt to the Browns from Seattle to rejoin holmgren. So yeah, seahawks fan but not here to argue/troll/ruffle feathers. Back then I was trying to give you guys some insight about a guy you didn't know much about.

I will say that after watching Jake play, Seneca isn't going to be a step down. He's solid, else holmgren woudln't have picked him up. He knows a thing or two about evaluating QB's.

I've seen a lot of comments on various sports sites talking about wallace like he's terrible or something. Here in seattle he did pretty good for the time he spent behind a shaky oline with no running game after the hutch/alexander days.

Much like the hawks you guys have nothing to lose.

Here's to hoping they let seneca loose to do what he does best, run around and be unpredictable. No doubt he is unpolished, and hey it's going to lead to some bad throws and turnovers but can't imagine it would be much worse than the last year or so of Jake Delhomme's play, and seneca gives you the bonus of being fun to watch. Pair him up with Cribbs and give them some time to get on the same page and it could be really fun to watch.

Overall, I will say this. . .Seneca may not be a long term starter, but he never LOST any games for us here in Seattle, and that's something I think you guys are accustomed too....QB's that lose the game with their shoddy play, but Seneca won't leave anything out there.

hope that at least helps give some confidence in him. If anything he's going to be more fun to watch than delhomme.

@bonedawg said:

brings in 2nd stringer Seneca Wallace to not compete for the QB position in 2010. To be continued....

I registered here to post the other day about seneca, from a seahawks fan perspective. I really think some of you guys are underestimating him. Wont make any guarantees but I wouldn't be surprised if he's your starter for most of the season, and I wouldn't be surprised if he exceeds expectations by a long shot.

jake would be okay in the backup vetaran role for quinn or w/e qb the browns draft but you're better off with wallace as your starter.

okay i'll buy that big ben isn't the smartest peanut in the turd but actually orchestrating these kinds of meetings in some sort of screening process? Not buying it.

also calling this thread the 'truth' about anything is kind of dumb. There's a big difference between 'truth' and 'what i heard from this guy at a club'.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Super Bowl rings aren't a "get out of jail free" card, nor are they a love potion. If a girl doesn't like you, move on. Don't try to force yourself on her, or else you'll just get in trouble.

Nobody said that. But untill proven otherwise, some broad making an accusation is a far cry from the image of ben having to drag some girl into a public restroom and rape her while his buddies and her friends wait outside the can.

I'm just saying.

@bonedawg said:

Not after I just got out from under being accused of rape. Serious lack of insight by Worthlessberger.

Accused but never convicted. So you're going to pass on getting all kinds of ass and living the life you want just because some chick may or may not have attempted to blackmail you out of some cash?

untill there are charges and evidence to the contrary, ben's just a dude trying to get his with some birds trying for a cash grab. Maybe in the end it's proven otherwise, but it's not like he's married and being unfaithful or anything.

or do you honestly think that a 28 year old guy with two superbowl rings really has to force girls into the sack

if you were single, 28, and a superbowl winning QB - you woudln't be out trying to pick up young college tail?

as much as I hate the steelers as a hawks fan still feeling the pain of the ref's fist in the junk after SBXL, I really don't see them getting rid of a 2-time SB winning QB who's still young unless he's actually convicted or admits to something, let alone is actually charged.

for a 5th or 6th rd pick you guys just got a steal.

As I posted on another thread about wallace, he may not be a super-star starter but he's solid. He keeps his cool. Not only has he been a solid back-up in seattle, the guy is smart. Not some idiot that's going to mouth off to the media or have off-field issues. Sure he's made some mistakes in games but that's going to happen off the bench, especially with the lack of support in the form of a decent line the seahawks have had.

When hasselbeck was down wallace played with a tweaked groin and that limited his usually stellar ability to scramble; he still played fairly well in those games despite his biggest asset being taken away from him.

I've never been a browns fan (not a hater just never a fan) but you can bet if he makes it as your starter I'll be watching every week. Seneca is FUN to watch. And he can play receiver as well so look for him to have a lot of fun back there with Cribbs.

If i were you guys, I'd be excited. I always thought when hasselbeck was done here, Seneca would get his chance to prove something, and it sucks that he won't get that chance here in seattle but more power to him being a starter.

I saw your QB's play last year, so anyone already saying he can't cut it should give him a shot first.

as a hawks fan I would love a 4th rounder for sims. He hasn't done much here to prove he'll be in the league very long.

Seahawks fan here; I like to follow our guys when they head out to other teams. Guys like Leonard Weaver whom the fools in control here let go, only to see him become a pro-bowler with a huge contract, when there were a lot of us who saw him play his first pre-season game and knew he'd be big.

Just want to say I hope Seneca Wallace does some great things with your team. The jury is still out on whether or not he can be a starter but I will say that over the years he's proven himself as as solid a back-up as there is. Also realize the guy can do so many other things; he's quick, he can catch, etc. - put him back there with Cribbs and see what happens. He may not be a long-term solution as a starter but I've seen Brady Quinn play and you definitely got yourself an inexpensive improvement in Wallace. He's worked with Holmgren forever so he knows what his expectations are.

Whether he ends up being a starter or not, your team just got much more solid. He was tossed out here during some pretty desperate and dismal situations but he kept his cool. If your team ends up changing around the offense to something a little more suited to holmgren's liking, he will be an invaluable asset to have in the locker room, let alone on the field.

-k