FJFF.

http://www.wltx.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/01/01/connor-shaw-says-hes-100-medically-cleared/78176826/

@tour2ma said:

Absolutely... and the money won't change him one bit...

On the other hand, I think the Texans have Clowney's complete attention now...

Yeah, Clowney said that he was looking up to Watt as a role model. Now he can see $100 million reason to do so!

@kennel-club said:

Wife beating = 2 games. Weed smoking = 1 year. Way to go Rodger.

/thread

@hx214 said:

If so what is the advantage to keeping Grossman if Hoyer is the starter? Helping Johnny learn an offense that he isn't even running if he isn't starting? Does Grossman really need to help a vet like Hoyer learn the offense? Is Grossman servicable if he has to be used?

The disadvantage of keeping Grossman is you have to pay him a full year of his base salary if he makes the 53 man roster.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS RTG

B. Hoyer 4/7 46 6.6 0 1 1-8 37.5

Need a new QB in the 3rd.

When you've got two quarterbacks, you don't have one...

NM

Not the best writing but still thought you folks would be interested.

Memo to Browns: Start Connor Shaw on Saturday.

@hoorta said:

I said right after the game, there's no way the Browns could possibly sneak Shaw through waivers to the Practice Squad after that performance. 8\9, 123 yards, a TD, and no ints will get you noticed around the NFL real fast.

On the plus side, the NFL owners have agreed to increase the size of the practice squad to 10 (which increases the chances of the aforementioned scenario to happen). Shaw makes the 3 deep simply to protect his position with the club (ie: to keep him off waivers). The chances of a team grabbing Grossman when he was previously available is less than a team grabbing Shaw off waivers.

@jafbf said:

Let's see what happens this season before we all move to the ledge . . . .

FIFY.

Whelp, The Head Ball Coach has spoken. #Toothsuck...

On a semi serious note, I head some of the talking heads yesterday speculating about Grossman and Shaw. Apparently, the way the players association agreement stands, given Grossman's veterans status in the league, that if the Browns have him on the roster at week one, they have to pay him the entire season regardless if they cut him later on. This isn't the case with Shaw. So they were speculating that maybe, the Browns would cut Grossman before week 1, and them pick him back up week 2 with a stipulation that he could be released at anytime. They seemed to think that Shaw would not make it through waivers if the Browns placed him there.

@lonnie-utah said:

Every Connor Shaw Snap From Last Night.

@supertruck97 said:

4 Man fronts, No Blitz, Against a 3rd/4th String prevent defense.

He looked good, but you need to put the situation into some perspective...

They were actually trying stunts and blitzes against Hoyer and Manziel. Shaw had no such challenges.

Ok, I'll give you those things. But here's the positive things that I personally see that are there regardless of the scheme or personnel:

Sharpness and Accuracy of passes. Check.

Quick Release. Check

Throwing on the Run. Check.

Ability to step into the pocket to buy time. Check

Ability to roll out of the pocket to buy time. Check,

Running for yardage when all of your down field options are covered. Check.

Being a "leader" on the field. Check. Watch the play at 0:32 Seconds. As the pocket collapses, Shaw escapes to his left. While he's scrambling, he directs his WR to the stop on the field where he needs him to be and delivers a ball while on the run down the sideline where only the WR has a chance to catch it. That's just savvy football.

Additionally, he looked like he knew where all of his receivers were going to be all of the time.

If you wanted to ding him for something you could say he didn't do a very good job of clock mangement in the 2 min drill, but as they used to say when I was at the Citadel, "Results, not excuses".

Now with all of that, I don't think that changes his status, but based simply on last night, Shaw's positives FAR out weighed his negatives.

I'm simply of the opinion that the Browns are doing themselves a disservice if they don't at least give him a chance with the 2's vs the 3's & 4's. Could he do any worse than Hoyer last night? (No).

One other thing about CS. He's newly married and about to become a dad. Now, I don't know about the rest of you dad's in here, but when I became a father, my whole life changed. The "selfish" life I had led up to that part diminished and I became much more focused and determined. I wouldn't be surprised if Shaw isn't feeling some of those same emotions right now. Instead of partying, his nose is in the playbook (so to speak).

Cheers,

L

Zombo said:

It's 2014 and the fans want an undrafted free agent to start the season at QB.

Kurt Warner was an Undrafted Free Agent....

And Superbowl MVP...

Every Connor Shaw Snap From Last Night.

@the-gipper said:

Are they still doing the Also Sprach Zarathustra intro? Morrison started that I believe.

@the-gipper said:

Morrison coached Sterling Sharpe.....and I can't recall this QBs name

It was Todd Ellis. He's now and Attorney in Columbia and South Carolina's Play by Play announcer.