@bag-o-browns said:There are a few things are in his favor. 1) He's a hard working kid (man) 2) He's gigantic and strong as hell! 3) Coach Ryan wanted him here 4) If we could use some younger depth, the defensive line is one place it is needed agreed (esp. with point #4).

@flugel said:LDE - C. Williams (C. Mosely) NT - A. Rubin (B. Schaeferling/R. Smith) RDE - S. Rogers (R. Smith) LOLB - K. Wimbley (M. Benard) LILB - D. Bowens (E. Barton/B. Costanzo) RILB - D. Jackson (K. Maiva) ROLB - M. Roth (D. Veikune/A. Hall) Again, without going too nuts on strongside/weakside gaagaa - you look at the names and they're getting alot more attractive to us as fans. That's some pretty good hocus pocus in 1 year's evolution folks. Why knee jerk to part with any of it? - Tom F. i like it Tom. we finally have good front 7 depth now. due to this, the only suggestion i have is inserting Kenyon Coleman in place of C. Williams @ LDE...which also conveniently frees him up for a potential Kolb trade. as you know, i am also a proponent of Rogers getting more reps @ DE (and wish RAC was too, about 32 games ago) and like him A LOT more than CW in our 3-4. Rogers might even be versatile enough to play at either end, depending on the matchup, scheme, and approach for each game. here's my take on the article: Kolb for our #1? hell no. for McNabb? still undecided. Kolb for Rogers? dangle C. Williams and a 4th first. absolute last resort, and that's only if MH, Heckert, EM, and Daboll are completely sold on him. McNabb for Rogers? see above Kolb for Rogers. someone suggested Kolb for Rogers and our 3rd? i wouldn't. our 3rd is a super high 2nd to me and is too valuable imo--i bet we get a great player with it. if Kolb looked like Favre in Atlanta i obviously would though.

@brownsfan4evr said:Judging Brady Quinn as a QB with what we have as far as receivers, o-line, running backs, etc. is like judging a highly skilled surgeon while asking him to use a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to operate on someone with. I agree but I think that as the offensive tools around him improve, we need to see more games where he looks like Chad Pennington than Heath Shuler. He had trouble beating out DEREK ANDERSON for God's sake. I wasn't a fan before and I won't say that I am one now but his work ethic needs to stay strong and he needs to build on the last few games. There is absolutely no reason why he can't have big days against KC and the Raiders.

That throw to Massaquoi was terrible - lucky for us the kid from Independence High School spun around, made the grab and turned it into a big first down.

20 carries 73 yards... 1 TD 3.7 ypc after downing it out. He has the speed for the corners. He just needs to man up and hit the crease. Looked promising. Harrison didn't look so hott but he wasn't given many carries.

God is really with us now! Go defense!

@mastadave99999 said:Charlie Weis ready to save Cleveland Browns' offense? By Mark J. Miller “CharlieYesterday it was the Chicago Bears. Today it is the Cleveland Browns. Charlie Weis is going to save somebody. And he surely hopes he can save himself. After doing some serious damage to his offensive-genius street cred while "leading" Notre Dame to some pitiful losses the last couple of years, Charlie Weis is a free man and he wants to redeem himself with an NFL team. The word yesterday was that six teams had already contacted him about being offensive coordinator for them. Now ProFootballTalk is reporting that Weis could end up as offensive coordinator in Cleveland after the team chucks head coach Eric Mangini under the bus. This would reunite him with quarterback Brady Quinn(notes), who he coached at Notre Dame. It is rumored that Weis met over the weekend with Browns owner Randy Lerner, who was towing Bernie Kosar along with him. Tune in tomorrow when Weis will be connected to another team. Source: ProFootballTalkNew Window I've been saying that'll be Parcells and Weis brought in and we'll keep Mangini for a few weeks now. Imagine if we had the offensive mind of Weis now? Even with this piss poor offense, we'd be able to put up some points.

Geesh

We will get our 5. Its a total trap game! I just dont know who the trap is set for!

Where are the DA fans?

Simply put..mangini is way out of his league especially on the offensive side of the ball and it shows...lerner needs to send this silver tongued liar and poser packing...today isnt soon enough imho...

Does this not freak anyone else out?

Dumbest idea I've heard to date. Look at Parcel's legacy in Miami and Dallas. Miami sucks. Dallas hasn't been successful.

Those who choose Quinn to relieve DA are correct!! Now to see what happens next

@hammertime said:Pure and simple medicineman is a hater. His advice rings true of the 3rd. string mentality. I hate getting crushed week in and week out. We look like a 3rd rate team. So why not put in another qb he couldn't play as bad as Quinn or Anderson.

Ok, were you watching the games when BQ started, he NEVER had enough time to let the play develop. Mangini is one of the worst coaches I have ever seen, he gets canned in NY so sure, why don't we pick him up to have us suck to, he was constantly under the microscope in NY and now he is here, does anyone realize history repeats itself, and as for BQ V DA, look I'd rather have Quinn because he is probably ten times smarter on the field than Anderson, Anderson is a mediocre QB at best, and so far Quinn isnt much better, but at least he has the brains and potential to work things through.

I agree.....quinn did nothing to really inspire me to believe we can win with him. However, I'm more optimistic about the guy with 6 career starts than the guy with 36 career starts improving his game to an NFL level.

@shepwrite said:Sez, it's a smart NFL beat writer saying he thought Massoquoi looked more like a star than Edwards. It's an observation. It says that Edwards is a spectacular athlete but maybe not a great WR: He runs sloppy routes and drops more passes than anybody in the league. It's a smart observation. And we should like it very much, actually. The same thing could have been written about Andre Davis in week 3 of his rookie year in 2002, when he caught 5 balls for 99 yards and 2 TDs (or week 11 of the next season when he had 7 catches for 117 yards and a TD). Or how about Kevin Johnson who in his rookie year had a 7 catch 135 yard game. It was one week. Did MoMass look better than Edwards last week? Sure he did. Did he look like a star? Nah, he looked like a #2 WR who made some plays. It wasn't anything anyone hasn't seen before from numerous NFL WR, including rookies. Put that up back to back weeks, then you look like a star in the making.

Aaron Rodgers from The Green Bay Packs vs BJ Novaks from the tv show The Office HmmmmPoll results from the old forumAre they related?Yes: 5 votesNo: 0 votes

I guess we'll find out what he's made of............now!