https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/03/browns-should-be-relieved-not-getting-watson-now-front-office-put-to-test-terry-pluto.html

@laiccm said:

Yeah...I noticed how you picked out Josh Gordon to make your point but not Albert Bell who ran over kids or Jim Brown who probably been beating women for decades...

I just saw a friend I know post this hypocrisy and I know he voted for Trump.

Your points are weak...if you were that much on a pedestal you should've stopped watching the league a long time ago

You don't know what happened nor do i...all we know is that the court said Bye....didn't even arrest him..like Kareem Hunt.

I give up the picks....what has picks gotten us before?

If he wasn't a QB with numbers he would be a footnote? Isn't that every player??lol

Is this Ghoolie?   I see he's been absent a few days at another Brown's forum....

just a loose thought - It's been reported that Deshawn Watson had no interest in the Browns.   Zero.  

so his visit was

1. being professional and seeing if the Brown's front office could "wow" him  

or

2. Visiting just to stir the pot / cause a shit storm with fall out

3. Help him in his quest to land at a more preferred location. 

I'm going with 2 or 3

@laiccm said:

Business is business.....it's never personal...lol "Late great Nino Brown"

That's a great saying, but it means that business is done by people who never, ever, ever let any "personal" issues into it.   And that is often wrong....

@laiccm said:

No because that would mean Nick Foles and Flacco are better than Marino Jim Kelly...and as explained that means Lamar Jackson is much better than Baker. You eblieve those things?

if Superbowl wins are the ultimate metric, then Eli is as good as Peyton.   Maybe better because he has two Superbowl wins and no Superbowl losses....

@canton-dawg said:

Bummer.

Now they need to see if they can get Jimmy G.

to my eyes - in the playoffs, it looked like the 49rs won in spite of Jimmy G, not because of him.   I'm not sure he's that big of an upgrade.   

According to Mary Kay Cabot's Browns sources,  this is all just some mental masturbation by sportswriters

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/05/browns-are-all-in-on-baker-mayfield-and-wont-be-trading-for-aaron-rodgers-browns-insider.html

was that my imagination, or did Ben R. stay moping on the bench instead of going out for the  handshakes?  

@tinythinker said:

This summary (last updated January 2020) gives us perspective on that...

Two bright spots are Mike Vrabel in Tennessee and maybe Kliff Kingsbury who is trying to help Arizona turn a corner.

We can also add a new Belichick alum to the overall list, Joe Judge, who is currently 3-7 in his first year with the New York Giants. Technically the Giants are still in the playoff hunt with a chance to win the NFC East.

Nick Saban

Under Belichick: Browns defensive coordinator (1991-94)

NFL head coaching stint: Miami Dolphins (2005-06)

Career record: 15-17

Record in first season as head coach: 9-7

*Saban left Miami for Alabama, where he has won five of his six NCAA championships and has gone 152-23 in 13 seasons.

Hmm   Nick Satan went from LSU to the Dolphins to Alabama.    He also was at Michigan State

Back to Football.     A week or so ago, Kirk Herbstreit   predicted no College or NFL football next fall  https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexreimer/2020/03/30/espns-kirk-herbstreit-is-telling-sports-fans-hard-truth-about-how-coronavirus-could-cancel-football-season/

@the-gipper said:

he battle of Ohio II with virtually nothing on the line. Subject to all kinds of changes no doubt.

Only thing on the line:   Browns draft position likely.

Oh...and maybe, Freddie's job?  Though...how really can this game affect his situation, win or lose?

I think if they win, Freddie has a good chance at year two.   If they lose I think he's done.     

This year we watched the Kitchens sink.....

How is this working out?

@vagitron said:

James Harrison never did anything close, ever and the steelers weren't "trying to score" as  they ran one damn play. They weren't burning timeouts. Garrett didn't need to take Rudolph to the ground and what Garrett did is the dirtiest thing I've seen in professional sports. Period.

you're wrong on every statement in this post. 

Rudolph and the steelers linemen in the scrum should get the exact same suspensions as Garret.  Piling on and kicking and punching Garret while he was held down?  When the two linemen had Garret, Rudolph could have walked away and didn't.   

Through 5 games, I don't see OBJ being as advertised 

@flugel said:

Is he worthy of such optimism?  

NE used to play Mike Vrabel as an extra TE in the red zone and short yardage situations when their TE inventory was low.  Is Bill Belichick the only coach on the planet that doesn't think it's rocket science to give someone on his defense a very doable role at TE?   

We don't have anyone with a TE frame on our defense that could fill this role or H-Back/FB?      It isn't like we're overworking Chad Thomas, Genard Avery, or Ricky Ticky Takitaki. Daniel Ekuale has a decent frame with the athleticism of a DE.   We could even put Drew Forbes out there as a 2nd TE and use him primarily as an extra blocker.  I'm sure he could learn a very short route or 2 in the process.  Again, the alternative is Pharaoh Brown...

Bellichek used to do that hear with James Jones lining up as an eligible receiver

from last years Atlanta game 

@bjh2130 said:

With an unregistered glock and some weed I wouldn't be surprised to see the story blow up some to take some eyes off Kraft.

Wait :  There's a glock registration requirement in Cleveland?  

@mohican said:

because there is thought in some quarters that Kitchens stock is rising very quickly, and even if he's OC, he could be interviewed and hired as a head coach in the future. 

If you want to keep Kitchens, perhaps at the expense of Greg Williams, then the thinking goes to hire him as HC.   This especially appeals to the people that want an offensive minded head coach. 

Well, I wasn't far off, huh?