@hoorta said:

Pissed at H&H for going beyond stupid to get one player? Hardly.

So with the draft over- is RG III worth Richardson, Weeden, a (hopefully) stud RT + a first round pick next year? Very debatable.

There's plenty of opinion outside of Washington the Redskins gave up way too much to get RG III. Enjoy not having to tune in on the first day of the draft for the next two years.

For what the Redskins gave up, you had better hope Griffin is the second coming of Warren Moon, because that's what your front office is thinking.

Is it stupid because the Browns missed on the pick? Would you have been elated if you guys nabbed RGIII? Do you not believe that an organization (especially organizations like CLE and WAS that have sucked at qb for a considerable amount of time)should do whatever they can to land a talent like Griffin? Sure, we gave up a lot (2 first rd picks), but if that QB becomes everything you thought they could be, then the risk far outweighs the reward.

There is also plenty opinion that the Browns made a mistake by drafting by a 28 (soon to be 29) year old quarterback in the 1st rd, though I think the pick was warranted, given who you had, and who you failed to get. And since only the 1st round is shown on day one of the draft these days, I think we'll do just fine , since almost all of our draft picks from the last 2 years are still on the team, and we have had success in the early middle rounds selecting guys like Roy Helu, and are building considerable depth.

All us Redskins fans definitely have our fingers crossed though, but from early reports, it seems like RGIII is really picking up the playbook well, and taking care of business. I think he will work out great for us.

Good luck with your team though. I was a huge fan of Trent Richardson, even when he was playing behind Ingram at Bama, and I am excited to see what he can do in the NFL. I have no doubt that he can be a successful RB right off the bat.

@jibz said:

Dude! You are an ass....this is the first time in YEARS that the Browns seem like they may compete and be a force in the NFL and all you can do is complain about some imaginary problem you have drummed up against Holmgren.

Why not get on board and have hope and excitement for our Browns instead of holding onto some hate like a little girl.... Come On GO Browns... haters grow up or stay home. FU!

I'm not a Browns fan... but yes, I am a terrible person.

Did you even bother to read the thread before you decided to respond like a three year old?

I will say that if I was Browns fan, I would be pissed at Holmgren/Heckert for not doing everything in their power to land RGIII, and instead settling for a QB that (if he turns out to be a stud) you will only get to enjoy for 6, maybe 7 years before his skills start to erode. I liked the Richardson pick though, and in hindsight, if Weeden and Richardson can be great together, then I think Holmgren can be vindicated. QB's like that don't come around very often though.

Zombo said:

Yo, douchebag. You realize we drafted Brandon Weeden, not Michael Vick, right?

Griffin is a fine prospect, but we got ourseselves a bigger, stronger QB AND the best running back prospect in years, so you might want to slow your roll.

Zombo

Hey, genius...

I was referring to the poster who claimed that RGlll and Vick were very similar in terms of play.

You might wanna learn how to follow a thread. And the irony is thick in here when you call someone a douchebag, while using brown/orange text, as if to suggest that your post was "Super special!"

I'll give you some more stats.

Against Texas (ranked 14th defensively) he threw for 320 yds, at a 68% clip.

Against TCU (ranked 32nd defensively) he threw for 359 yds, at a 77% clip.

He shredded Oklahoma for 479 yds, and 4 TD's, 14 yds per completion, at a 61% clip.

He did all of this with a fairly average team. Yep, definitely a running quarterback

If you can't throw accurately in college, then you are going to be severely handicapped in the pros, no matter who you play against. Accuracy is accuracy, point blank.

In his last season at Va Tech, Vick threw for 1,234 yds, at a 54% clip. He was a running quarterback. He had, and still has an arm, but he couldn't "throw" to save his life. He didn't even start to show progression into his NFL career until '06.

RGlll in his last year, threw for 4200 yds, at a 72% clip. Besides the fact that they're both black, and fast, there is no compariso...none.

Question...

How many of you can honestly get up in the morning, and not think (even if it is a passing thought) about doing evil things to Mike Holmgren?

@taco918 said:

The idea that RG3 and Vick aren't comparable is asinine. Both play QB. Both are phenomenal athletes. Both run really fast. Both had stellar college careers. Both were taken within the first 2 picks in their respective drafts. Both, needless to say, came into the leauge with high expectations. Both are considered undersized compared to your prototypical QB. Frankly at this point in RG3's career, he should be honored to be compared to Vick considering RG3 has done absolutely nothing in the NFL. I was in favor of trading up for RG3 but lets not lose our grip on reality here. RG3 compares more to Vick then any other NFL QB past or present.

Theres just one very big difference...

Griffin can throw, and throw accurately...