@dawgpound3 said:

You're being bitter, bonedawg. All of you Brown fans, should be ashamed of yourself. I am a Browns fan, too, but I have class and most of you are ignorant, asswipes.

Seriously...

Jim Brown was a wife beater, and is a notorious racist. He left the league early to pursue a non-existent acting career. He also went to Baltimore to defend LeQuit and criticize Cleveland fans. Yet he is our hero, and one of, if not THE greatest Brown ever. Hauling out every petty pissy little bicker you can think of when it comes to Steelers (esp in the postseason long after we've ceased being relevant) is f@#&ing pathetic...

@slurp-and-burp said:

The Browns should be very profitable and the Steelers should be broke according to Mike Brown.

The Browns have got to be profitable or our dipsh!t owner would've sold us to someone else by now, since all he cares about is getting a tie in his fruity soccer league. I hate soccer snobs; they'll insist that it's the "real" football because of the insistence of a long dead french man, when in reality football was the name for what split into rugby, Australian footie, and American football. Soccer was originally asSOCiation football. Hence why we still call it soccer!

@erie-dawg said:

No pass rush as far as no more that 4?

Is don't tackle in the rule book?

The play where mack scored the o and d line men stood there.

must play a T.E. that rule don't bother me. A T.E. is in the game most of the game anyway so I don't see a big deal.

And I think you meant to say no offensive shifthing, again no big deal.

since more teams play a 4-3 I think that's why you see that scheme.

But come on I can't see how you put that on the rules because the game I watched had very little to no player effort.

I think that's why the fans could care less.

I was just saying that the rules are symptomatic of the malaise related to the game itself. The players sucked eggs, no argument. But the way that the game is structured doesn't encourage them to try. It's before the super bowl now, so we can't even pretend like we want to watch cause its the last NFL game until the start of next year's preseason. Players like Tom Brady fake injuries to avoid coming. And I for one find it difficult to root for either side when it consists of millionaires chanting about winning the bigger check and getting a new car; or paying the hotel/travel bills of their family members/posse. At least they pretend like its about the team during the rest of the season.

I also think All Star games in general are becoming shit. Does anybody seriously watch the NBA game anymore? And this past year's MLB game was 4+ hours of kissing the ass of the late George Steinbrenner and all that did for (read "to") the game of baseball. That bastard helped establish a system that has crippled half the teams in the league from ever having a legitimate shot ever again.

You know, I'm no Puker lover, but the national media really ought to be ashamed of themselves for garbage pieces like this. We had similar articles flooding out of Arizona two years ago. Funny how bitter writers with chips on their shoulder(whether they grew up in areas that hated the Steelers, or are fans of teams that are their primary rivals) get national stages, and then write articles so stilted and hateful that half way respectable local media wouldn't dare to run it...

@feartheroo said:

It was the best Pro Bowl of all time...you know why?

there were ZERO STEELERS!

Best NHL All-Star game of all time too this weekend? why? NO HOMO Crosby

that's why I love the MLB all-star game! hahahah pirates...what a joke

Last time I checked the Indians were pretty much becoming the Pirates of the American League. Let's no revel in Pittsburgh misery brought about by a system that basically guarantees we'll be in the same boat given enough time. And Crosby is a homo huh? I smell the jealously of a Cleveland hockey fan so hateful of an opposing city they would've supported cutting the Lumberjacks ties to the Penguins ( a move that would've cost the city its team had San Jose not picked us up) What a dumbf$$k...

@erie-dawg said:

I remember not to many years ago the players played and tried, now its a fuking joke.

Here is a thought get rid of the pro bowl and the all pro tag that comes with it.

because they played and looked less like pros and more like bitches.

If the players complain about not having the all pro label and I were Goodell, I'd say to bad you did it to yourselves by playing like a buncha chumps.

It can't be laid entirely at the feet of the players when you have rules like

No defensive shifting

MUST play 4-3 ENTIRE time

No Pass Rush or Blitz

Must play a Tight End

CANNOT line three receivers up on one side

I've seen pee wee games with more excitement. The game is a joke, and a hallmark of the stupidity embodied by the Goodell NFL...

@calfoxwc said:

Both sissy teams didn't beat each other up enough to suit me. Neither will make it to the superbowl.

How did I know your dumb a$$ would show up to add your worthless two cents. Pardon, it's not even worth two american cents, it's more like a couple of Mexican pennies...

And of course the Raven's won't be making it;they lost! So the neither was kind of pointless wasn't it? Granted the Steelers stand little chance against the Pats next week, but I just felt like making fun of your ignorance just a wee bit more!

@vaportrail said:

Topics like this are why Steelers and Ravens fans label us as whiners.

BINGO!!!!

First why are we posting nit-pick details about a game between the two teams we hate the most? Secondly, if you are going to watch, then you have to notice that there was grabbing and pushing back and forth, and the penalty called was what the ref saw last...

Cue the "Rooneys pay the refs" garbage...

@slowburn said:

Ask yo mama who da best is as she slobs my knob...............then again it's rude to talk with your mouth full................FOAD

For the love of all things...

THIS crap is why I'm convinced half of the posters here are either 13 or giant man-children. That's the best you can come up with. I think you're 7th grade friends are waiting for you on X-box live, nobody can teabag those dead Halo characters better than you. And your brilliant wit is sorely missed...

@kosar_for_president said:

Could be. I didn't see the game, but had to see this run. Wow. Look at 10 seconds. Almost William Green like, jk.

Not even close to the greatest, he didn't have to try that hard to shake off the weakest attempts at tackling since the saints d was playing pee wee. Nine, count em, nine botched tackle attempts. The saints couldn't tackle my grandfather shambling down the field...

@longhorn said:

The Saints defense looked like they could care less who won. Pete Carroll had his team fired up. They just wanted it more all game. And Hasselbeck played his azz off.

Another playoff game like that next year, they'll be calling for Sean Payton's head.

Taj Smith, a Colt, should get the game ball from the Jets for his complete knucklehead play. That play was so awful it almost looked like he was a plant for the other team.

I love the Browns as much as the next guy, but we had no business winning that game against New Orleans, same with the Pats. Neither of those teams prepped properly for a match against another NFL team. Belicheat learned his lesson and the Pats never looked back, looks like Payton failed to get the message and went into that game only to get manhandled by what has been a statistically pathetic offense...

http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/...y_in_bad_w.html

It's articles like this that convinces me the writers at the PD are full of crap, and the only reason they're tolerated is the way they can lay on the BS come the time to get wound up for the new season. The ass clown completely ignores that we were playing Balt and Pitt, two of the leagues strongest defenses, and the AFC's best teams just two years ago. It also completely glosses over the number of passes either dropped or missed. How can we evaluate the kid against really strong defenses, when he has no one to throw to, and the entire team had just quit for the final game? Oh that's right, who needs perspective, we've moved past the "this year will be different, these guys are looking poised to go places" to the end of the season "everything's gone to hell, forget keeping anybody, the team's getting sold" crap. I seriously wonder why I find myself even opening the PD sports section anymore...

I think with 12 additional fines levied this week, we can officially call it. The League has lost its mind. Some pissed off owner threatened the commissioner and now we'll namby pamby with everything thanks to that owner, and a bunch of bored and whiney sports writers with too much room to fill with stories. Kevin Kolb? Really? Did anyone bother reading stories from different media sites, they could have all been ghost-written by the same guy. James Harrison blah blah...can't understand the difference between hurt and injure blah blah(Dammit anyone that actually played a contact sport knows that enforcers are there to lay the smack down on the opponents and make them feel it)...NFL needs to protect the players blah blah!!! This is a straw man stuffed to overflowing. Only two of the three fines were earned. The third got swept into the BS pile with the others. And we all know that if this hadn't involved Pittspuke, most of us wouldn't have given a damn at all!

@cantonlegend said:

the difference is that you will never forget going to ohio state to watch a game

and you will never remember going to OU to watch a game

F U ... I went to OU, and let me tell you. It's not OSU, but it's a damn good atmosphere for a college game. You obviously haven't been to OU for the Halloween celebration or homecoming weekend. At least OU doesn't pad their schedule by playing teams from a whole freaking Division below them every year, only to choke come the big game!

Alex Mack needs to quit whining about dirty players and do something to stand up to them. He sounds like a child when he ought to smack them around, and act like a freaking man. The whole freaking team did nothing but clutch their skirts and cry about being abused. Fight Back! Hit Hard!

@theclevelandsound said:

I had positives and negatives in my post for a reason. Trust me, I am not happy.

You are right, we should have been flagged as well. Bad officiating on both sides.

We all know, (putting aside the rivalry for the sake of making a point) that if the Steelers aren't winning enough to keep the bandwagons interested, the national media gives them about as much attention as we get. This includes enforcement of roughing the passer/ helmet to helmet from an officiating standpoint. Only the "marquee" teams like Cowgirls, Patsies, and I'm beginning to suspect Jets are going to have these calls made regularly for (so often that its ticky tack). The XL Bowl was officiated terribly on both sides, but a combination of The Bus finally getting to the big one, and the fact the Stadium was so filled with fans of the Steelers, that the balance of the bad calls benefited the home team.

On a side note, do we have a market as large as NY? Hell no! But, we're better fans, hell the Burgh has better fans than NY, and the West Coast would rather pretend professional football doesn't exist, but it's not as if we're an expansion bought with a billionaires funds for some crap market like the Titans, Jaguars, and Panthers. We deserve better recognition than we get. And to hell with "America's Team" whoever that might be; it's a myth perpetuated by guys that would sell their wives to shower with the likes of Tony Romo or whoever is the golden boy of the week happens to be...

@theclevelandsound said:

I was just thinking about this today. Teams with the same record as us get a lot more publicity because they are bigger markets and are "expected" to do well every year. I can't imagine a world where teams like that go 1-3 and get ignored like us.

Let me take a stab at this w/o the Steeler bias. The Cowboys and Vikings have pro-bowl caliber players at QB, WR, and RB. Our QB is a third string rookie, our punt returner is our most productive WR, and while our RB is a beast, he still hasn't put the numbers up consistently (like a full season if not two). Beyond that, the Vikings nearly beat the Jets this past Monday. The only team we have beaten were the Bengals, and they're falling apart faster than a Chinese necklace from WalMart. That and the national media has a hard on for Dallas, even though it's obvious they won't be playing the SB in their new stadium come February.

@dawgpoundpitt said:

Not gunna lie....i loved the TJ Ward hit on shipley...yea hes gunna get fined, but i think it shows that he will light someone up if you come across him. Yes it lead to a TD but still we need that intimadator in our D and hes showing he can be that guy

Looking though this thread I see a lot of comments at the very least tacitly approving the hit, yet these are some of the same people who bitched high and low about another Ward being a cheapshot artist extraordinaire...

It's this kind of dimwitted hypocrisy and stubborn refusal to aknowledge talent elsewhere that makes being a Brown's fan here kind of hard

That image is realistic...perhaps it came from the alternate reality some posters here live in, where the NFL itself conspires to keep the Browns down.

@thesmartkid said:

1. Cincinnati 11-5

2. Cleveland 10-6 (Wild Card)

3. Baltimore 9-7

4. Stoolers 8-8

Here are mine

Baltimore and Stoolers will lose this weekend and Cleveland and Cincinnati will win.

Close or not we lost to one of last season's worst teams. Baltimore will most likely not be the powerhouse that the media still insists it and the Cowboys are (no matter how badly they may want that), but a set of double digit wins for them is not impossible in the face of two games against the Browns, Bengals, and at least one of two with a Roethlisbergerless Steelers; it is however impossible for us and we have no shot at the Wild Card considering that even if we do win enough games to contend, they won't be in our division. We're the odds on favorite for cellar dweller status. Cincinnati winning the division this season? When pigs fly. The only reason they looked good at all was because Belichoad eased off in an uncharecteristic manner.

Where you do have it right is that Pittsburgh barely a prayer of winning this Sunday unless that Defense plays out of their minds good, make CJ a non-factor, and Dixon (sp?) manages to avoid costly turnovers. Other than that, your prediction is laughable...

Scumbags (10 - 6)

Steelers (9-7)

Cincinnati (8-8 if they're lucky)

Us (5-11 again, if we're lucky)